Tailgating strikes again?! RIP driver.
xfmatt:
Tailgating strikes again?! RIP driver.
and you know this, how?
RIP to the driver, but, please don’t spread rumours about the cause of the accident
shuttlespanker:
xfmatt:
Tailgating strikes again?! RIP driver.and you know this, how?
RIP to the driver, but, please don’t spread rumours about the cause of the accident
I don’t. That’s why I put a question mark after it.
xfmatt:
shuttlespanker:
xfmatt:
Tailgating strikes again?! RIP driver.and you know this, how?
RIP to the driver, but, please don’t spread rumours about the cause of the accident
I don’t. That’s why I put a question mark after it.
but, the exclamation mark would also suggest a statement, not a question 
Terrible news, hate hearing about crashes on that road with it being so close to home. Maybe they need to think about banning overtaking for trucks in certain places, something needs to be done.
Saaamon:
Terrible news, hate hearing about crashes on that road with it being so close to home. Maybe they need to think about banning overtaking for trucks in certain places, something needs to be done.
personally, i think that would just make the problem worse
there are too many junctions in a very short distance, and the amount of traffic entering and exiting from these junctions is the problem, impatient car drivers leaving it right up until the last second before pulling over for the junction then slamming the brakes on, i know, some lorry drivers are just as bad
but, i do agree, something needs to be done
shuttlespanker:
Saaamon:
Terrible news, hate hearing about crashes on that road with it being so close to home. Maybe they need to think about banning overtaking for trucks in certain places, something needs to be done.personally, i think that would just make the problem worse
there are too many junctions in a very short distance, and the amount of traffic entering and exiting from these junctions is the problem, impatient car drivers leaving it right up until the last second before pulling over for the junction then slamming the brakes on, i know, some lorry drivers are just as bad
but, i do agree, something needs to be done
Yeah i see what you mean about the junctions. I use that road almost everyday and it seems like its every other week and its not like people are just having a little bump or even a side-swipe where everyone just walks away, people are actually dying!
A14 along with some other roads is a bloody vile killer, inadequate road with poorly designed junctions carrying twice as much traffic as the fools who decided it was good enough presumablu designed it for.
I’m sure many others couldn’t believe their eyes when the M6 junction end was being built with a single lane passing under the M1…whoever designed that bugger should be doing time for all the poor souls who have perished and been maimed there, along the whole length of hell road similar bottlenecks and feats of extraordinary poor design can be found.
Mind you the designers didn’t know the bloody population would increase for various reasons at unsustainable rates for the past 20 years, increasingly mobile poulation at that.
Juddian:
A14 along with some other roads is a bloody vile killer, inadequate road with poorly designed junctions carrying twice as much traffic as the fools who decided it was good enough presumablu designed it for.I’m sure many others couldn’t believe their eyes when the M6 junction end was being built with a single lane passing under the M1…whoever designed that bugger should be doing time for all the poor souls who have perished and been maimed there, along the whole length of hell road similar bottlenecks and feats of extraordinary poor design can be found.
Mind you the designers didn’t know the bloody population would increase for various reasons at unsustainable rates for the past 20 years, increasingly mobile poulation at that.
+1
I wonder if the driver killed was driving whilst tired? 
Juddian:
A14 along with some other roads is a bloody vile killer, inadequate road with poorly designed junctions carrying twice as much traffic as the fools who decided it was good enough presumablu designed it for.I’m sure many others couldn’t believe their eyes when the M6 junction end was being built with a single lane passing under the M1…whoever designed that bugger should be doing time for all the poor souls who have perished and been maimed there, along the whole length of hell road similar bottlenecks and feats of extraordinary poor design can be found.
Mind you the designers didn’t know the bloody population would increase for various reasons at unsustainable rates for the past 20 years, increasingly mobile poulation at that.
The designers probably didn’t know the A14 was going to be built either!
But regardless of road layouts, these drivers know what they are like and choose to ignore the fact that standing traffic is highly likely in these areas.
It also doesn’t help, when these drivers totaly ignore matrix signs warning of standing traffic, but then I suppose it’s back to Darwin’s theory again!!
A-roads have always led to more accidents than Motorways.
When something goes wrong, there’s little room to maneuver. You’ve got no hard shoulder, only two lanes, often in the dark, pillocks chucking things off bridges, the road is full of flat-out traffic day and night, and most of all - most of the other traffic around in the middle of the night are other wagons going at roughly the same speed as you, meaning either you catch them up very slowly, or vice versa.
You don’t even need to be tired to make a fatal mistake in THAT environment.
I remember how bad the A1 going north of Black Cat towards Yaxley used to be before they 4-laned it into A1(M). Vehicles pulling out of country lanes right into your path, animals, laybys with poorly lit other wagons sticking out, hidden dips in the road, half asleep drivers coming the other way, 'cos it’s so straight in many places, and of course, on and off dual carriageways lulling people into a false sense of speed security. 
Winseer:
A-roads have always led to more accidents than Motorways.When something goes wrong, there’s little room to maneuver. You’ve got no hard shoulder, only two lanes, often in the dark, pillocks chucking things off bridges, the road is full of flat-out traffic day and night, and most of all - most of the other traffic around in the middle of the night are other wagons going at roughly the same speed as you, meaning either you catch them up very slowly, or vice versa.
You don’t even need to be tired to make a fatal mistake in THAT environment.
I remember how bad the A1 going north of Black Cat towards Yaxley used to be before they 4-laned it into A1(M). Vehicles pulling out of country lanes right into your path, animals, laybys with poorly lit other wagons sticking out, hidden dips in the road, half asleep drivers coming the other way, 'cos it’s so straight in many places, and of course, on and off dual carriageways lulling people into a false sense of speed security.
I’d actually say the same about motorways now.
They’re that busy, even finding a gap to pass a slower vehicle is becoming a chore, and that’s a planned manouver.
I think, especially places like the M6 between J1 and J8 and between j15 and j16, the M62, especially through the roadworks section and the M60 where the M61 bears off, anything going wrong there is going to cause devistation, because there’s ALWAYS a vehicle next to you.
Car drivers seem to slow down when they’re next to you too, how often have you noticed you’re catching up to a truck, looked in mirror, see a car approaching at a good speed, “after he passes, I’ll pull out”, they get next to your trailer wheels and seem to match your speed, “I’ll indicate, that’ll let them know that I want to pull out, they can speed up, slow down, use the empty outside lane…” No, they just sit there .
Someone posted a thread about ‘fear driving on the roads’ or something, and I’m not scared for myself, in a huge vehicle, but I do worry about cars on the motorway because the standard of their driving has gone to crap and they don’t seem to realise the dangers they put themselves in.
RIP driver, I’ve no idea what happened here, but a driver still lost their lives and their family has lost a member
I drove past this the other way and it certainly didn’t look like a tailgating issue the containers were almost side by side -
It looked like the one on the left jack knifed and the cab went to the right hitting another container - and the jack knifed container then proceeded to crush the cab against the other - there certainly wasn’t much left of the cab at all and it looked like it was just on the milton junction off slip so might have been a ■■■■ in a car braking at the last minute - but we won’t know unless the other driver was watching in his nearside mirror
regards
Steve
waynedl:
Winseer:
A-roads have always led to more accidents than Motorways.When something goes wrong, there’s little room to maneuver. You’ve got no hard shoulder, only two lanes, often in the dark, pillocks chucking things off bridges, the road is full of flat-out traffic day and night, and most of all - most of the other traffic around in the middle of the night are other wagons going at roughly the same speed as you, meaning either you catch them up very slowly, or vice versa.
You don’t even need to be tired to make a fatal mistake in THAT environment.
I remember how bad the A1 going north of Black Cat towards Yaxley used to be before they 4-laned it into A1(M). Vehicles pulling out of country lanes right into your path, animals, laybys with poorly lit other wagons sticking out, hidden dips in the road, half asleep drivers coming the other way, 'cos it’s so straight in many places, and of course, on and off dual carriageways lulling people into a false sense of speed security.
I’d actually say the same about motorways now.
I think I can heartily endorse all of the above. I sat in all that last night not finding out until this morning what happened. Prayers and commiserations to the friends and relations.
What we always have to bear in mind is this:- Concrete and tarmac never got up and bit anybody yet, so it’s no good blaming the road. One must always drive with the prevailing conditions in mind. That particular area of the A14 has more than it’s fair share of accidents, and concentration is a very absolute key to survival.
They’re that busy, even finding a gap to pass a slower vehicle is becoming a chore, and that’s a planned manouver.
I think, especially places like the M6 between J1 and J8 and between j15 and j16, the M62, especially through the roadworks section and the M60 where the M61 bears off, anything going wrong there is going to cause devistation, because there’s ALWAYS a vehicle next to you.
Car drivers seem to slow down when they’re next to you too, how often have you noticed you’re catching up to a truck, looked in mirror, see a car approaching at a good speed, “after he passes, I’ll pull out”, they get next to your trailer wheels and seem to match your speed, “I’ll indicate, that’ll let them know that I want to pull out, they can speed up, slow down, use the empty outside lane…” No, they just sit there .Someone posted a thread about ‘fear driving on the roads’ or something, and I’m not scared for myself, in a huge vehicle, but I do worry about cars on the motorway because the standard of their driving has gone to crap and they don’t seem to realise the dangers they put themselves in.
RIP driver, I’ve no idea what happened here, but a driver still lost their lives and their family has lost a member
Truckulent:
I wonder if the driver killed was driving whilst tired?
Why is it, when there’s an accident the first thing people do is blame the driver killed for being tired?
Terrible road in urgent need of upgrade, R.I.P to the driver concerned
Its not construtive to just say driving standards are poor, why are they poor? Perharps the driving standard has never really been that great but wasnt noticed as much due to the less congested roads in the past?
Saaamon:
Its not construtive to just say driving standards are poor, why are they poor? Perharps the driving standard has never really been that great but wasnt noticed as much due to the less congested roads in the past?
You may be right.
Or, it could be that in the past, people concentrated on their driving, rather than their mobile phones, ipads, laptops, paperwork for the office, make up etc.
I was behind a car at a set of lights last week, the driver dived out of the car, went into the boot, got his laptop and powered it up on the passenger seat 
He MAY have been using it as a navigation device or something, but I doubt it