robroy:
Oh ffs I’ve got the forum loon quoting Bible passages at me now.
(Is that one ‘FACT’ or 2 btw .■■)
Well, you don’t have to follow it at all - but I guarantee that everyone, believer or not - will find out what turned out to be the ‘correct answer’, in the end…
If you walk off a cliff, and don’t believe nor understand Newton’s Theory of Gravity:
Do you fall down, rise up, or float away?
Winseer:
robroy:
Oh ffs I’ve got the forum loon quoting Bible passages at me now.
(Is that one ‘FACT’ or 2 btw .■■)
Well, you don’t have to follow it at all - but I guarantee that everyone, believer or not - will find out what turned out to be the ‘correct answer’, in the end…
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If you walk off a cliff, and don’t believe nor understand Newton’s Theory of Gravity:
Do you fall down, rise up, or float away?
I’m eagerly awaiting this proof from you.
Winseer:
robroy:
Oh ffs I’ve got the forum loon quoting Bible passages at me now.
(Is that one ‘FACT’ or 2 btw .■■)
Well, you don’t have to follow it at all - but I guarantee that everyone, believer or not - will find out what turned out to be the ‘correct answer’, in the end…
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If you walk off a cliff, and don’t believe nor understand Newton’s Theory of Gravity:
Do you fall down, rise up, or float away?
Well you’ve just confirmed the ‘loon’ bit is a ‘fact’ for a start.
I’ll.say to you what I initially said to Sploomy…
If you want to believe and run your life around all this crap,.crack on.
Just do not insult my intelligence by feeding me b/s as a counter argument,as if it has relavance.
Cheers. 
Winseer:
It is considered a “Work of the Devil” to quote scripture at believers to try and contradict them, just as it is to quote lies, propaganda, and half-truths to non-believers to switch them…It is amazing how when the non-believer commits utter evil - that the Devil gets invoked by evil-doers and other evil-doer observers, despite the fact that none of these people believe in the Devil… FIgure THAT!
These days “Work of the Devil” gets shorted to just “Woke” for the benefit of those who don’t believe in the existance of the fallen angel previously known as Lucifer Morningstar.
Belief - cuts both ways. You cannot have Good and Evil as a concept without belief, just the unavenged consequences of one’s actions indefinitely, which makes the Evil non-believer - able to rise to heights of political power very easily, with the true upper hand on “Whatabout” politik.
Keep an eye on what the Devout Christians in Parliament get upto over the coming year for forthcoming examples of that…
I love how you just make stuff up to be angry about 
You’ve no idea what woke actually means do you?
switchlogic:
Winseer:
It is considered a “Work of the Devil” to quote scripture at believers to try and contradict them, just as it is to quote lies, propaganda, and half-truths to non-believers to switch them…It is amazing how when the non-believer commits utter evil - that the Devil gets invoked by evil-doers and other evil-doer observers, despite the fact that none of these people believe in the Devil… FIgure THAT!
These days “Work of the Devil” gets shorted to just “Woke” for the benefit of those who don’t believe in the existance of the fallen angel previously known as Lucifer Morningstar.
Belief - cuts both ways. You cannot have Good and Evil as a concept without belief, just the unavenged consequences of one’s actions indefinitely, which makes the Evil non-believer - able to rise to heights of political power very easily, with the true upper hand on “Whatabout” politik.
Keep an eye on what the Devout Christians in Parliament get upto over the coming year for forthcoming examples of that…
I love how you just make stuff up to be angry about
I’ve just defined above what “Woke” means…
If you’ve got another definition - now’s the time. 
As for “Making stuff up to be angry about” - I could ask anyone with TDS “What fact do you know about Trump that no one else is guilty of - that irritates you the most?”
(1) "Trump’s Lies? - Give an example of a Trump Lie that upsets you greatly, that it drives you to derangement… He says the 2020 election was rigged! He Lied! He said he’d put Hilary in Jail - He Lied - I’m an ex-Trump supporter - I LIE.
(2) “Trump’s Policies?” - Make America Great Again? - Did any Lefties lose their jobs/houses/lives during Trump’s tenure? Do you know anyone else that did?
(3) “Trump’s Arrogance?” - Surely a breath of fresh air after the ongoing lies of regular persons in power, who’ll lie through their teeth to get elected, lie in office, and commit crimes to try and STAY in office…
(4) “Trump is Persona Non Grata” - Who told you to chase that? Were you paid to be that? Were you brainwashed to be that? The defintion of a “Trump Lie” by the Mainstream Media is “What comes out of their mouths about Trump - when their lips move…”
(5) “Trump lost the election in 2020 fair and square.” No he didn’t There are simply not over 70,000,000 lefties in America who voted for Joe Biden like we were told, defeating Trump’s tally that was higher than Obama at his peak, don’t forget. Only the inclusion of around 12million EXTRA votes “that only existed on paper” was able to get Biden over the line, along with the unconstitutional weaponizing of the Judiciary and Agencies who ongoingly deflect their own crimes onto Trump to try and avoid losing power outright otherwise…
(6) “Trump is running a Cult” - What does that even mean? Would we be horrified if a Politician won over two-thirds of the vote in THIS country? - Is THAT what is feared by the Deep State most of all? Imagine what you could get done - without the head wind of an almost terrorist-like opposition to be a head-wind to policy rollouts! America should have got behind Trump during his presidency, rather than plotting against him solid for four years. Elections have consequences - STOLEN elections have DISASTEROUS consequences!
Over a million people have died around the world - because Trump was no longer President from the start of 2021.
(7) “What happens when Trump goes to Jail?” - Wait and see. It won’t be good for anyone but the enemies of the West.
(8) “What happens if Trump is cleared of all crimes?” - Wait and see. The sky won’t fall on your heads, but the Enemies of the West are unlikely to invade because of that! You’re still alive, butthurt and triggered, but hey - tomorrow’s another day - right?
(9) “What part does Religion have in Trump’s re-ascendence?” There’s a clear link between those who believe in stuff, and “voting republican” and of course “Supporting Trump”. Those who have NO faith on the other hand, or worse - those who’ve rejected the faith they’ve been previously brought up in - will continue to resist, believeing Deep-State rhetoric that future “Trump Wins” - is somehow bad for everyone, not just the atheist ■■■■-hurt left - who in turn, have yet to be told what they lost in the past under Trump’s presidency, let alone what they supposedly will lose at any point in the future…
I predict that a lot of support is going to be won over from those on the left - who literally “See the Light” in time to put their vote to better use, rather than “do nothing” and let the Terrorist-lovers, CCP admirers, and Fifth Columists win out over what hopefully is still the Moral Majority - regardless of political leanings…
The thing about Trump,he denies global warming.The ice caps are melting,the CO2 levels are up.I can’t see how it can be denied now.
I hope they elect someone who has intentions to try and tackle this issue.It’s one thing for the ordinary man in the street to bury his head in the sand because he feels his efforts won’t make any diffetence but a president can make worthwhile policy changes
Going back to topic,those that are going to eternal damnation,they don’t go there immediatley after death.They will be in hades,the “holding area” while their case gets processed.
But why would a loving god send anyone to hell?
The problem is that God is perfectly good.I thought of an analogy.Imagine you bought a brand new range rover for 80k.When you got home,you noticed some scratches on the bumper.You would be straight back to the dealer to complain.But if it was a fiesta you paid £500 for,you would probably overlook it.So then,how are we going to measure the seriousness of sin when it’s committed to an INFINITLEY good God?It is not possible to pay back the damage,so,at least,it must be eternal because no matter how far you go into the future,you still havent served enough punishement that matches the seriousness of the sin that you ,so thoughtlessly ,indulged in.
With this in mind,how wonderous are these verses that God shows mercy.Just that word mercy,on it’s own seems to speak volumes.How can God show mercy for what He knows deserves eternal death
2 CORINTHIANS 4:4
whose unbelieving minds the god of this world hath blinded, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1 John 1:9
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Imagine getting to the end of your life and realising you had an antidote to your sinful condition,but you refused it! You turned it down,you scoffed,you mocked,you convinced yourself God wasn’t real,let Satan blind you.But now the day of reckoning has come and it’s too late.You must face the eternal punishement that is due,and however terrifying it is,it is not one iota less than what divine justice demands.
ROMANS 10:13
For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
And so all the mindless quoting of pure bull crap goes on. 
… wl
Who exactly do you think on here digests it exactly??
After the last revelation that you put your children second to all this cack, do you think any normal person is going to take anything you say seriously on here after that
You have proven beyond doubt that you belong to a corruptive dangerous organisation, a one that s capable of brainwashing a family man into changing his life’s priority from what it should be,…to what yours is. 
Your organisation is like the Waffen division of the God Squad, and akin to a Muslim fundamentalist group…who tf knows what you could be capable of if fed the wrong type of instruction.
Sploom:
The thing about Trump,he denies global warming.The ice caps are melting,the CO2 levels are up.I can’t see how it can be denied now.
I hope they elect someone who has intentions to try and tackle this issue.It’s one thing for the ordinary man in the street to bury his head in the sand because he feels his efforts won’t make any diffetence but a president can make worthwhile policy changes
The polar ice melts and breaks up every spring and summer and freezes every winter.
Which is how ice bergs like the one that sank the Titanic form
.How can ice melt at -50C.
Where is your evidence that the polar temperatures are too warm.How warm is too warm how bleedin cold do you want it.
CO2 is a good God given gas that sustains plant life just like fossil fuel is God given and if anything 0.04% of the atmosphere isn’t enough not too much.
Your evil anti CO2, pro nuke, pro tree burning, and pro solar agenda, combined with the blanket slurs against Catholicism suggest false prophet of Satan not a Christian.
I’d trust Trump more than you in that regard
Blimey,Robroy,you replied to my message within 5 minutes,that’s good going!
But as to your points.Let’s pretend for a minute that you did believe in God.You either obey His word written in scripture or you do as you like.There are only 2 options right.Now we live in a world where people are doing as they see fit.How many murders,rapes,muggings,abuses have happened in the world even since I started writing this?
It’s not working very well,is it? All these wars going on,each side thinks they are morally right,agree?
The terrorists think their religion tells them to kill others.My beliefs tell me to treat thy neighbour as thyself,so I don’t want to die,so I don’t have any desire to cause harm to anyone(can’t believe I even have to say this)
Sploom:
Blimey,Robroy,you replied to my message within 5 minutes,that’s good going!
But as to your points.Let’s pretend for a minute that you did believe in God.You either obey His word written in scripture or you do as you like.There are only 2 options right.Now we live in a world where people are doing as they see fit.How many murders,rapes,muggings,abuses have happened in the world even since I started writing this?
It’s not working very well,is it? All these wars going on,each side thinks they are morally right,agree?
The terrorists think their religion tells them to kill others.My beliefs tell me to treat thy neighbour as thyself,so I don’t want to die,so I don’t have any desire to cause harm to anyone(can’t believe I even have to say this)
All that still does not excuse you (nor justify you) from putting all this crap you have devoted your entire life to before your kids.
It is just wrong.
My wife and kids know that they are paramount when it comes to prioritising on things in life…and that is how it is to NORMAL people, believers or otherwise.
There is nothing nor no one who would ever come between me and them… let alone something that is primitive fantasy and non existent .
Matthew 10:37-39
37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.
Are you telling me I have to disobey this rule?
And still call myself a Christian?
Because,if I disregard this rule,what’s to stop me disregarding other rules and then,if I go down road,where do I stop?
I mean,it’s a bit like you taking 44 minutes break instead of 45.It’s no big deal but if you get stopped by vosa,they won’t be happy because they know that if they let you off with that,next time,you might decide to only have 43 minutes,or you might decide to bend the rules in other ways.Lines have to be drawn.
But we believe in the Trinity,God the Father,the Holy Spirit and God the son,Jesus.With that in mind how can any person be above Them.It is a mystery but it is Biblical.
Winseer:
switchlogic:
Winseer:
It is considered a “Work of the Devil” to quote scripture at believers to try and contradict them, just as it is to quote lies, propaganda, and half-truths to non-believers to switch them…It is amazing how when the non-believer commits utter evil - that the Devil gets invoked by evil-doers and other evil-doer observers, despite the fact that none of these people believe in the Devil… FIgure THAT!
These days “Work of the Devil” gets shorted to just “Woke” for the benefit of those who don’t believe in the existance of the fallen angel previously known as Lucifer Morningstar.
Belief - cuts both ways. You cannot have Good and Evil as a concept without belief, just the unavenged consequences of one’s actions indefinitely, which makes the Evil non-believer - able to rise to heights of political power very easily, with the true upper hand on “Whatabout” politik.
Keep an eye on what the Devout Christians in Parliament get upto over the coming year for forthcoming examples of that…
I love how you just make stuff up to be angry about
I’ve just defined above what “Woke” means…
If you’ve got another definition - now’s the time.
Yes, your entirely made up definition! I’ve literally never heard anyone ever claim it means that, and I spend quite a lot of time online.
I don’t have ‘another definition’……just the actual definition Woke - Wikipedia.
As for rest of your guff, didn’t read it, apologies, life is too short. God speed you crazy diamond.
Sploom:
I mean,it’s a bit like you taking 44 minutes break instead of 45.It’s no big deal but if you get stopped by vosa,they won’t be happy because they know that if they let you off with that,next time,you might decide to only have 43 minutes,or you might decide to bend the rules in other ways.Lines have to be drawn.
But we believe in the Trinity,God the Father,the Holy Spirit and God the son,Jesus.With that in mind how can any person be above Them.It is a mystery but it is Biblical.
Tell us where does any decent Christian marriage and christening service state that wife/husband and offspring are lower in order than the faith.
You’re saying that atyending Sunday service is higher priority than looking after children or tending to a wife or husband in need.Inhuman bs as expected of a tree burning anti CO2 proponent.
Sploom:
I mean,it’s a bit like you taking 44 minutes break instead of 45.It’s no big deal but if you get stopped by vosa,they won’t be happy because they know that if they let you off with that,next time,you might decide to only have 43 minutes,or you might decide to bend the rules in other ways.Lines have to be drawn.
But we believe in the Trinity,God the Father,the Holy Spirit and God the son,Jesus.With that in mind how can any person be above Them.It is a mystery but it is Biblical.
Bad analogy, it’s not VOSA, it’s DVSA, and they would let you off with that. A single minute isn’t something they fine people over, despite what some on here say. It’s all in the Enforcement Sanctions book anyone can read.
I suppose you’re not reading mine either 
Looks like I’ve only got Roboy…
He’ll be jumping off ship soon,I bet…once he gets fed up with me…
Sploom:
Matthew 10:37-39
37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.Are you telling me I have to disobey this rule?
And still call myself a Christian?
Because,if I disregard this rule,what’s to stop me disregarding other rules and then,if I go down road,where do I stop?
Yes I am saying that
As a family man you’re main priority in life is your family, not some ■■■■ ridiculous code.
I have said before you are a serial conformist,.sometimes more important things in your life override any ■■■■ rules.
Dont give me all that dog sh about driver hours rules, all that does is illustrate what I said you are…a serial conformist, you do whatever you are told no matter how bad it is for you.
I would willingly break the law to protect my family, and I ain’t talking ■■■■ tachographs here
I would do time if anybody attacked them, but unlike you I have principles where they matter.
Rob type SPLOOM into google and click on top one, it may explain a lot of things… 
