JeffA:
Of course they’d lie - the people who call themselves fundamentalist christians are usually the furthest away from acting like a christian you can imagine. That’s why you get all these Trump supporters claiming they follow God and then lie and say that anyone who disagrees with them is a scumbag. They arn’t christian in any way, shape or form.
As opposed to Atheist Socialism.Which predictably sees more potential in supporting Islam to meet its evil control freak aims and agenda.
Ok,Robroy
Sploom:
Romans 8:31-39
Romans 8:31-39 NKJV
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect?
The idea of God ‘delivering his Son’ is an oxymoron if you believe the Holy Trinity.
As opposed to God came to Earth from Heaven in human form as ‘the Son’.Ultimately thereby creating Christianity by martyring his Human form, including converting the Pagan Romans who he’d fooled and spoofed into trying to kill an immortal divine being.Christianity also thereby providing similar immortality for the souls of its followers.
Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.
10/1 he’ll come back with another waffle starting with ‘Next you’ll be telling us’'. 
As I said HIM telling US what WE in his view ‘‘really mean’’, (the bizzare interpretations I mentioned) interspersed with the obligatory references about Communism.
No Carryfast you didn’t ‘‘checkmate me’’ or back me in a corner …the reason I usually avoid responding to you is, because you can not argue with somebody awash with pomposity who thinks he is always right (even when he is wrong ) and who professes to be an authority on EVERY subject under the sun.
But on this occasion the main reason for not bothering my arse to respond was not only what I have said ,.but the question of… what is the point of arguing and trying to establish FACTS that are not there.
There are no FACTS when it is a discussion about a subject of pure FANTASY. 
Oh yeah,.and for the record I ain’t on ANY ■■■■ ‘‘team’’.
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.
How is defending the international faith of Christianity, against Robroy’s laughably selective claims, including him blaming Christianity for Islamic atrocities carried out in the name of Islam, supposedly xenophobic.
While all the examples I’ve referred to, regarding Atheist hypocrisy, are fact not conspiracy theory.
robroy:
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.10/1 he’ll come back with another waffle starting with ‘Next you’ll be telling us’'.
As I said HIM telling US what WE in his view ‘‘really mean’’, (the bizzare interpretations I mentioned) interspersed with the obligatory references about Communism.No Carryfast the reason I usually avoid responding to you is, because you can not argue with somebody awash with pomposity who thinks he is always right (whether he is or not) and who professes to be an authority on EVERY subject under the sun.
But on this occasion the main reason for not bothering my arse to respond was not only what I have said ,.but the question of… what is the point of arguing and trying to establish FACTS that are not there.
There are no FACTS when it is a discussion about a subject of pure FANTASY.Oh yeah,.and for the record I ain’t on ANY [zb] ‘‘team’’.
By definition you’re clearly on the Atheist ‘team’ hypocritically blaming Christianity for the evils of Islam, when Atheism ain’t exactly whiter than white.
Facts indeed.
When it comes to defining what someone elses beliefs are,only the one who believes in it can define it,so only a Christian can define what a true Christian is.If you dont believe in Christianity,the question becomes meaningless.Likewise,I can’t define what a humanist is or whether someone is a real humanist or not because I dont believe in humanism,so it becomes meaningless for me to try and decide if someone is a real humanist or not.Only the humanists can decide what qualifies them to be a humanist.Humanism doesn’t exist in my world.The nature of religion,you always believe you are right and the others are wrong and you can include atheists in this too.It’s not peculiar to Christians.It isnt just religions either.Don’t politicians all think they are right and all the others are wrong.
Carryfast:
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.How is defending the international faith of Christianity, against Robroy’s laughably selective claims, including him blaming Christianity for Islamic atrocities carried out in the name of Islam, supposedly xenophobic.
While all the examples I’ve referred to, regarding Atheist hypocrisy, are fact not conspiracy theory.
Ffs man are you just trying to wind me up now , or are your powers of logic so off the ■■■■ wall as they appear to the rest of us.
At no point did I ever blame Christianity on any Islam atrocity it is all in your own .mixed up ■■■■ mind.
I don’t blame Christianity for anything specific of that or a similar nature…mainly because I hold Christianity in the same category as Islam or any other religion and ridiculous set of beliefs.
The fact that Islam tends to be more radical and sometimes manifests it’s self in a violent aggressive way is irrelevant, it all comes under the umbrella of primitive belief which belong in ancient times, not modern society.
Which part of that do you fail to see.
Religion = Fantasy taken far too seriously.
Dont bother replying as I cba to indulge you any further.
I have laid out my opinions on this, how you choose to misinterpret them is up to you, I dont care,.safe in the knowledge that every user on here knows exactly what you are like.
Cheers.
Carryfast:
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.How is defending the international faith of Christianity, against Robroy’s laughably selective claims, including him blaming Christianity for Islamic atrocities carried out in the name of Islam, supposedly xenophobic.
While all the examples I’ve referred to, regarding Atheist hypocrisy, are fact not conspiracy theory.
You seemingly don’t realise the difference between religious and atheist regimes. The difference is no one does anything in the name of atheism
robroy:
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.10/1 he’ll come back with another waffle starting with ‘Next you’ll be telling us’'.
As I said HIM telling US what WE in his view ‘‘really mean’’, (the bizzare interpretations I mentioned) interspersed with the obligatory references about Communism.No Carryfast you didn’t ‘‘checkmate me’’ or back me in a corner
But on this occasion the main reason for not bothering my arse to respond was not only what I have said ,.but the question of… what is the point of arguing and trying to establish FACTS that are not there.
There are no FACTS when it is a discussion about a subject of pure FANTASY.Oh yeah,.and for the record I ain’t on ANY [zb] ‘‘team’’.
It’s always a challenge trying to have a discussion with Carryfast, he’s in his own orbit. I’m surprised he’s backing the Catholic church, I had him down as a druid or similar fruit cake mob.
I’ve proven his lack of knowledge and experience, on a number of occasions.
robroy:
Carryfast:
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.How is defending the international faith of Christianity, against Robroy’s laughably selective claims, including him blaming Christianity for Islamic atrocities carried out in the name of Islam, supposedly xenophobic.
While all the examples I’ve referred to, regarding Atheist hypocrisy, are fact not conspiracy theory.Ffs man are you just trying to wind me up now , or are your powers of logic so off the [zb] wall as they appear to the rest of us.
At no point did I ever blame Christianity on any Islam atrocity it is all in your own .mixed up [zb] mind.
I don’t blame Christianity for anything specific of that or a similar nature…mainly because I hold Christianity in the same category as Islam or any other religion and ridiculous set of beliefs.The fact that Islam tends to be more radical and sometimes manifests it’s self in a violent aggressive way is irrelevant, it all comes under the umbrella of primitive belief which belong in ancient times, not modern society.
Which part of that do you fail to see.Religion = Fantasy taken far too seriously.
Dont bother replying as I cba to indulge you any further.
I have laid out my opinions on this, how you choose to misinterpret them is up to you, I dont care,.safe in the knowledge that every user on here knows exactly what you are like.
Cheers.
As I read it you clearly said ‘this’ is why I hate ‘all’ religion’ then proceeded to post a typical evil vicious attack leaving a girl in a coma, predictably carried out by the Iranian Islamic scum in the name of Islam.
The equally clear inference being that you are also linking every day Brit Christian activities with such Islamic atrocities to justify your personal choice of Atheism.
Ok we get it you ain’t keen on the religion thing but there’s no need for you to go making exaggerated offensive assertions directed at an innocent group to justify it.
Especially when Atheism hasn’t exactly got a clean record in that regard.Ironically if anything more likely to appease Islam than Christianity.
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robroy:
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Now you’re just waffling Carryfast, the discussion isn’t about your xenophobic conspiracy theories.10/1 he’ll come back with another waffle starting with ‘Next you’ll be telling us’'.
As I said HIM telling US what WE in his view ‘‘really mean’’, (the bizzare interpretations I mentioned) interspersed with the obligatory references about Communism.No Carryfast you didn’t ‘‘checkmate me’’ or back me in a corner
But on this occasion the main reason for not bothering my arse to respond was not only what I have said ,.but the question of… what is the point of arguing and trying to establish FACTS that are not there.
There are no FACTS when it is a discussion about a subject of pure FANTASY.Oh yeah,.and for the record I ain’t on ANY [zb] ‘‘team’’.
It’s always a challenge trying to have a discussion with Carryfast, he’s in his own orbit. I’m surprised he’s backing the Catholic church, I had him down as a druid or similar fruit cake mob.
I’ve proven his lack of knowledge and experience, on a number of occasions.
The facts that I believe that life begins at conception, the ( origins ) of the CofE anything but reflected Christian values and is a laughable oxymoron v the English Anglo Saxon Catholic State which was usurped in 1066.Bearing in mind that the murder of Thomas Beckett actually set the scene for Henry V111’s much later murderous coup in that regard.
Ironically all the result of the Catholic Church backing the Franco/Norman invasion of the country.
All shows knowledge and anything but open ended unconditional backing of Catholicism.
Deserved respect for Catholicism where it’s due yes.
Just as pointing out the hypocrisy in Robroy’s comments, painting Christianity with the savagery of Islam to justify Atheism, while selectively ignoring similar atrocities carried out in the name of Atheism.
Finally, we’ve found something Carryfast is good at. Putting words in other people’s mouths.
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Finally, we’ve found something Carryfast is good at. Putting words in other people’s mouths.
He mentions the '‘Everyday Brit Christian activities’ being compared (by him not me) to Islamic atrocities, implying the Christian religion is whiter than white.
Does that include the ‘‘everyday Brit Christian activities’’ (atrocities) carried out for 20+ years ‘every day’ by the Catholic IRA and the Loyalist extremists??
I personally blame those particular Christian atrocities on Islam…oh yeah and Communist China.
(I don’t really but I just thought I’d cut out the middle man (Carryfast) for accusing me of that with his warped logic)
How do you know that those who do these things are Christians?
If you consider catholics and protestants,both these would claim that they are Christians and the others are not.They can’t both be right so at least 50% of them are Christians in name only.So,it’s completley unfair for you to tar them all with the same brush.
Here is a story about robroy macgregor a villan and theif from the 16th century
historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/H … MacGregor/
How would you like it if people said anyone called robroy was a villan and a theif?
robroy:
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Finally, we’ve found something Carryfast is good at. Putting words in other people’s mouths.He mentions the '‘Everyday Brit Christian activities’ being compared (by him not me) to Islamic atrocities, implying the Christian religion is whiter than white.
Does that include the ‘‘everyday Brit Christian activities’’ (atrocities) carried out for 20+ years ‘every day’ by the Catholic IRA and the Loyalist extremists??I personally blame those particular Christian atrocities on Islam…oh yeah and Communist China.
(I don’t really but I just thought I’d cut out the middle man (Carryfast) for accusing me of that with his warped logic)
Sploom:
How do you know that those who do these things are Christians?
If you consider catholics and protestants,both these would claim that they are Christians and the others are not.They can’t both be right so at least 50% of them are Christians in name only.So,it’s completley unfair for you to tar them all with the same brush.
Here is a story about robroy macgregor a villan and theif from the 16th century
historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/H … MacGregor/How would you like it if people said anyone called robroy was a villan and a theif?
Errrr.
Tbh I wouldnt give a toss. 
Anything else?
They are ‘Christian’ by definition.
As I keep saying not a problem with normal religious people who keep themselves and their beliefs to themselves, but problem with the religious nut jobs who shout stuff from the rooftops trying to convert every ■■■■ else.
robroy:
Sploom:
How do you know that those who do these things are Christians?
If you consider catholics and protestants,both these would claim that they are Christians and the others are not.They can’t both be right so at least 50% of them are Christians in name only.So,it’s completley unfair for you to tar them all with the same brush.
Here is a story about robroy macgregor a villan and theif from the 16th century
historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/H … MacGregor/How would you like it if people said anyone called robroy was a villan and a theif?
Errrr.
Tbh I wouldnt give a toss.
Anything else?They are ‘Christian’ by definition.
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Just because you (with your usual arrogance and suoeriority) do not consider them so, they nevertheless ARE by definition…deal with it.
Hence tarring with same brush, hence saying all religion is the same, hence me hating all religion.As I keep saying not a problem with normal religious people who keep themselves and their beliefs to themselves, but problem with the religious nut jobs who shout stuff from the rooftops trying to convert every [zb] else.
Exactly what I pointed out earlier in the thread, but Sploom in his usual arrogance, insists that he and his little coven are the only christians.
Riddle me this, Carryfast. My father-in-law was a devout Catholic, like go to mass every day, devout. His closest mate, across the road, was equally devout, but of the Muslim faith. Cooperatively they looked after the elderly widows in the cul-de-sac, mowing lawns, taking wheelybins in/out and doing home maintenance.
I’ll say it again, there are no bad religions, just bad people. Some agnostics and atheist are also, equally generous and considerate.
Your xenophobic and parochial attitude is divisive and a major contributor to ungodly, inter-religious wars.
You are right.My beliefs are divisive.
What did our leader (Jesus)say about division?
Mathew 10
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.