There is only one true religion,Biblical Christianity,those who follow it don’t go around killing people or trying to hurt others in any way,they have to treat thy neighbour as thyself.You dont want to kill yourself.You love yourself .You love your own body,you go to great lengths pursuing comfort for your own body.That’s your whole life’s puropse,pursuing comfort and pleasure for your OWN body.But if you are called to be a Christian ,then you live for the obedience of Jesus Christ only
robroy:
Star down under.:
robroy:
A lovely thing religion innit.Classic example of why I personally hate ANY religion.
A corrupt, fundamentalist branch of Islam. Every religion has them.
Yep, but my point was all this trouble, war , atrocity and inhumanity is mostly done either in the name of religion, or religion is involved somewhere along the line.
The world would be a much better, ( not to mention safer) place, without what is essentially and basically at best a primitive superstition,…and at worst a complete load of old ■■■■■■■■.
Ironically you wouldn’t be able to say that under the savage Islamic Sharia Law made for and by Middle Eastern savages.
As opposed to a Christian Country not an Atheist one.
Bearing in mind equally savage Atheist Marxist Socialism which has historically allied with the Islamic world.
robroy:
Sploom:
I agree totally ,Robroy,false religions are a terrible thingSomething we agree on
All religion is false by definition, because it is based on pure fantasy.
Stalin and Mao would have said exactly the same thing and agreed with you.
You’re confusing evil with Religion and Islam like Atheist Marxism is basically evil.
robroy:
A lovely thing religion innit.Classic example of why I personally hate ANY religion.
So you’re saying if I hate the Islamic scum who hit the girl, in the name of Christianity I’d be just as evil ?.
If I hate the POS in the name of Atheism that’s ok and good ?.
Sploom:
There is only one true religion,Biblical Christianity,those who follow it don’t go around killing people or trying to hurt others in any way,they have to treat thy neighbour as thyself.You dont want to kill yourself.You love yourself .You love your own body,you go to great lengths pursuing comfort for your own body.That’s your whole life’s puropse,pursuing comfort and pleasure for your OWN body.But if you are called to be a Christian ,then you live for the obedience of Jesus Christ only
A yes, love they neighbour.
But also, an eye for an eye…
Your god preaches love and forgiveness, but promises only retribution.
Your make believe god is a misogynistic, sadistic, evil, self adulatory, needy and thoroughly screwed up individual.
And you choose to follow this entity, sign it’s praise, and attempt to other to follow it’s cause…?
I guess, that you yourself, must be misogynistic, sadistic,evil, self adulatory, needy and a thoroughly screwed up individual…
the nodding donkey:
Sploom:
I agree totally ,Robroy,false religions are a terrible thingFalse by who’s definition? You are an infidel, to a Muslim, who believes in the same imaginary man on the sky as you do… even Jews believe in the same god, just gave a different interpretation o how it all started…
Define ‘same’.Only Christians believe in the Bible and the idea that God and Jesus are one and the same entity.
While I’m sure that Muslims view Atheists as lower than Christians and their beef with the Jews is more about historic territorial disputes and sheer racism than just their Religious differences.
Carryfast:
robroy:
A lovely thing religion innit.Classic example of why I personally hate ANY religion.
So not exactly beaten to within an inch of her life and then some by the law on the orders of the Vicar of Winchester Cathedral for upsetting him for whatever reason during Sunday services.
Seriously how the zb can you conflate a savage death cult invented by and for Middle Eastern savages with Christianity.
Next you’ll be saying that the Crusades were an alliance of Islam and Christianity against Atheists.
Or that Stalin never hurt anyone in the name of Atheist Socialism
There are pockets of christianity that act in a similar way to the behavior reported in RR’s link. The only difference being, so far, no christian/western government* has adopted it YET.
You have a very xenophobic view of Islam, based on a minority of fundamentalist terrorist. There are no bad religions, only bad people within religions. That statement, in no way condones or or offers a belief in any religion.
*Research John Bjelke Peterson, 1971 Springbok tour, lay Christian preacher, government sanctioning police bashing of protesters.
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I purposely did not answer Carryfast when he queried my posts
Firstly because he’s a fully paid up member of the God Squad, and these guys are too far into it all to ever listen to any logical or rational argument Or tto talk any common sense into on this subject…(ref 40+ pages with Sploomy. )
That, and the fact that he invariably ends up telling you what '‘YOU REALLY MEAN’ as he sees it, usually over about 10 pages , with his bizzare logic and dubious skills of interpretation, …
And his obsession with ■■■■ China,.Communism, Joe Stalin et all (of which he always manages to shoe horn a mention of in every ■■■■ subject ) quite honestly bores the arse off me.
robroy:
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I purposely did not answer Carryfast when he queried my posts
Firstly because he’s a fully paid up member of the God Squad, and these guys are too far into it all to ever listen to any logical or rational argument Or tto talk any common sense into on this subject…(ref 40+ pages with Sploomy.)
That, and the fact that he invariably ends up telling you what '‘YOU REALLY MEAN’ as he sees it, usually over about 10 pages , with his bizzare logic and dubious skills of interpretation, …
And his obsession with [zb] China,.Communism, Joe Stalin et all (of which he always manages to shoe horn a mention of in every [zb] subject) quite honestly bores the arse off me.
A variation of Godwins law, eh?
The man’s certainly “different”, but still entitled to his theological beliefs, right or wrong.
So you are prejidice against the religous people,ok,at least I know where I stand
I just thought of Korea.Atheism in the north where they have no fear of God and Christianity in the south where the country is flourishing.
The nodding donkey
So,my religion is right and all the others are hellbound.It does sound arrogant when you put it like that,but I do have an explanation.The problem is SIN.You sinned against an infinitley good God.
With that sin,God’s justice demands that you are punished for it.Just like a judge in a court of law must punish the criminal.
All these other religions you mention have the idea that if you do wrong,then you do some good works to make up for it.The problem with that approach,your sin is so bad that there aren’t enough good works left in the world to make up for it.
This is why Jesus said,take the narrow path.There is no other way to Heaven except through Jesus Christ
So,OK,it sounds arrogant to say we are right,all the others are wrong,but it’s not our choice,we didn’t lay down the ground rules.All we Christians can do is lay out the path to salvation.Thats all I’m doing.
Carryfast.
Why do I hate catholicism.Where do you want me to start?
Well.They tell you to worship Mary and they put her above Jesus.The mother of God.God doesnt have a mother.God doesnt share His glory with anyone else.
They tell you to pray to saints,again unbiblical and then telling preists and nuns not to get married.Its terrible some of the things that have happened over the years.Here is a link about why it is a false religion.
gospeloutreach.net/romanerr1.html
It leads people astray from the truth and thats the worse possible thing .When someone passes away at our church,we say,they have gone to the Lord.Just a phrase we use but I cant say this about my own parents because they followed catholicsm religously and its a system that offers no salvation
The nodding donkey
People die ,but my calculation,I was more thinking,how long does it take for the population to double.The world population was 4 billion in 1970.It was 2 billion in 1940.if its doubling every 35 years,why has it took so long to get to 8 billion?
Even allowing for wars,disease and so on.Bear in mind they used to have big families,it seems that ,if we have been evolving for millions of years and the population has been doubling every 35 years,there is something wrong somewhere
If you have a belief system that says you have to earn your way to Heaven and you get to Heaven by being good or doing good works,such a belief is in contradiction to
Ephesians 2:8–9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God— 9 not the result of works, so that no one may boast.
And the Bible also says that nobody is good enough to enter Heaven.
Romans 3:23-24
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Sploom:
So you are prejidice against the religous people,ok,at least I know where I stand
To whom is that directed?
Sploom:
I just thought of Korea.Atheism in the north where they have no fear of God and Christianity in the south where the country is flourishing.
Just a random thought, or does it have some relevance?
Sploom:
The nodding donkey
So,my religion is right and all the others are hellbound.It does sound arrogant when you put it like that,but I do have an explanation.The problem is SIN.You sinned against an infinitley good God.With that sin,God’s justice demands that you are punished for it.Just like a judge in a court of law must punish the criminal.
All these other religions you mention have the idea that if you do wrong,then you do some good works to make up for it.The problem with that approach,your sin is so bad that there aren’t enough good works left in the world to make up for it.
This is why Jesus said,take the narrow path.There is no other way to Heaven except through Jesus Christ
So,OK,it sounds arrogant to say we are right,all the others are wrong,but it’s not our choice,we didn’t lay down the ground rules.All we Christians can do is lay out the path to salvation.Thats all I’m doing.
You simply don’t see the arrogance, do you?
You’re the only one who thinks you’re right, and you base that on hearsay. You are keen to equate the judgement of God with a legal judge, but your evidence wouldn’t hold up in any court.
Sploom:
So you are prejidice against the religous people,ok,at least I know where I stand
So not only do you spell the word prejudice wrongly,.you also do not understand it’s definition.
Here’s a clue.
Prejudice…Act of pre judging a subject or person.
A pre conceived opinion not based on reason or actual experience.
So my opinion of non normal religious people,.the type like yourself who prioritise it over absolutely everything in their lives, is that you are beyond help and reason.
This is invariably due to individual states and degrees of indocrination and brainwashing, so as for you…No hoper, beyond help.
Carryfast?..A lot less such, but completely and utterly convinced of all the crap…even to the point of making up his own versions, because he prefers his own version of b/s to the ‘official’ one.
My opinions are CERTAINLY based on exoerience,.I was brought up in a religious environment (not the nut job variety) so I know exactly what the normal everyday ones are like,. and I’ve experienced the more extreme types who I have had to fend off during most of my younger life.,.from trying to force their ridiculous beliefs on me in a kind of ‘‘I have an awfully crap and fully restricted life,.so Rob, why shouldn’t you’’ stylee.
NOW you know where you stand eh?.
Sploom:
I just thought of Korea.Atheism in the north where they have no fear of God and Christianity in the south where the country is flourishing.
So South Korea is flourishing because of primitive beliefs?
Book yourself in for a reality check ffs man.