A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

Winseer:
I’d be interested to hear what non-believers think will happen to them once they die without issue, and their DNA is destroyed by cremation…

“You are gone for all time” - regardless of what you believe that way.

Only by Progeny can the unbelieving mortal human - ever hope to perpetuate any degree of “immortality”.

Beats me why so made godless types - also think “Abortion” is a good idea in that regard…
Best you have as many kids as you can, WHILST you can - you’d think?

Firstly don’t think there’s any evidence that nature ever intended the transfer of DNA after death or even in later life.
Also cremation isn’t ‘yet’ compulsory.
However like incentives to avoid procreation there is evidence that we’re seeing the ‘incentivising’ of cremation for the indigenous demographic.
To the obvious advantage of our procreation and burial orientated imported replacements.
IE I’m sure those no fuss incineration adverts aren’t directed towards the Muslim community.No surprise there.

Winseer:
I’d be interested to hear what non-believers think will happen to them once they die without issue, and their DNA is destroyed by cremation…

“You are gone for all time” - regardless of what you believe that way.

Only by Progeny can the unbelieving mortal human - ever hope to perpetuate any degree of “immortality”.

Beats me why so made godless types - also think “Abortion” is a good idea in that regard…
Best you have as many kids as you can, WHILST you can - you’d think?

Firstly don’t think there’s any evidence that nature ever intended the transfer of DNA after death or even in later life.
Also cremation isn’t ‘yet’ compulsory.
However like incentives to avoid procreation there is evidence that we’re seeing the ‘incentivising’ of cremation for the indigenous demographic.
To the obvious advantage of our procreation and burial orientated imported replacements.
IE I’m sure those no fuss incineration adverts aren’t directed towards the Muslim community.

Biblically,there doesnt appear to be any question about whether people believe or not.The demons believe God exists and tremble at the thought of it.
Atheism bring up more questions than answers.you have the big bang theory,the beginning of life,human concience

Sploom, you’re such a serf, I’ll wager you won’t even watch this.
youtu.be/VvcOfUrHS5U?si=zbe5U7IYPUsieNWg

Sploom:
Biblically,there doesnt appear to be any question about whether people believe or not.The demons believe God exists and tremble at the thought of it.
Atheism bring up more questions than answers.you have the big bang theory,the beginning of life,human concience

Look up the “Problem of Evil” concept.

Sploom:
Biblically,there doesnt appear to be any question about whether people believe or not.The demons believe God exists and tremble at the thought of it.
Atheism bring up more questions than answers.you have the big bang theory,the beginning of life,human concience

If it was not bad enough watching monty python films now he’s watching the big bang theory
Remember there was fake news going back to the start,
Also according to the world there’s probably about 10 different gods just depends on what you let yourself be influenced by

Yes,Winseer,reading about that now.
I sometimes thought,wouldnt the perfect situation be that we all went to Heaven?
But,OK,we can’t,so it’s like a society where you have so many people in prison,if they deserve to be there,fair enough,but I would have rather seen these people lead productive lives

Winseer:
I’d be interested to hear what non-believers think will happen to them once they die without issue, and their DNA is destroyed by cremation…

“You are gone for all time” - regardless of what you believe that way.

Only by Progeny can the unbelieving mortal human - ever hope to perpetuate any degree of “immortality”.

Beats me why so made godless types - also think “Abortion” is a good idea in that regard…
Best you have as many kids as you can, WHILST you can - you’d think?

Fairly big ego that thinks along those lines tho. Some of us are just here to have a good life and enjoy our time in the sun. What happens after we’re gone is irrelevant and not our concern.

Bigtruck3:

Sploom:
Biblically,there doesnt appear to be any question about whether people believe or not.The demons believe God exists and tremble at the thought of it.
Atheism bring up more questions than answers.you have the big bang theory,the beginning of life,human concience

If it was not bad enough watching monty python films now he’s watching the big bang theory
Remember there was fake news going back to the start,
Also according to the world there’s probably about 10 different gods just depends on what you let yourself be influenced by

Indeed. And each of those insists that “their” god is the only real one, and that all the others are wrong, and unfidel unbelievers… :open_mouth:

It gets funnier, when you go back a bit. Classic civilisations, such as Egyptians, Mayans, Aztecs, Romans, Greeks, Vikings and other Pagans all believed (or still do) in a multiverse of gods.

switchlogic:
[ Some of us are just here to have a good life and enjoy our time in the sun. What happens after we’re gone is irrelevant and not our concern.

That idea isn’t mutually exclusive with belief in God.In fact more like the opposite.God is totally in control of our destiny after life at least whatever that destiny may or may not be.While can only hope that the clauses forgive us our tresspasses, lead us not into temptation, deliver us from evil, meant and mean what they said literally and will be taken into account and we measure up on arrival.
While if it all turns out to be misplaced belief then obviously nothing lost either way because in that case we’ll obviously know nothing about it.
Ego is totally irrelevant by that logic.

But it will be your concern when the time comes.
This life is so short and temporary,why not make a plan for the next life…

Sploom:
But it will be your concern when the time comes.
This life is so short and temporary,why not make a plan for the next life…

Ironically some don’t believe that there is a next life.
While others do on the basis that if we’re wrong then we won’t know or care anything about it.
While if we’re right then we ain’t in control of God’s will other than to ask for his forgiveness and mercy and goodwill before we go.
Unless you think that you’re so perfect in every way as to not need to ask him for it.Good luck with that.

Carryfast.
Just for the record,I am far from perfect and I would go so far as to say,there are better people than me in hell now.
But the Bible is pretty clear on this subject.There is no repentance after death.You only have this one short life to accept or reject Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross as full payment for your sins.You only get one crack at this.You have to get it right the first time.If you get it wrong,there is no turning back

Sploom:
Carryfast.
Just for the record,I am far from perfect and I would go so far as to say,there are better people than me in hell now.
But the Bible is pretty clear on this subject.There is no repentance after death.You only have this one short life to accept or reject Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross as full payment for your sins.You only get one crack at this.You have to get it right the first time.If you get it wrong,there is no turning back

As a Catholic ? you obviously believe that God the Father and Jesus the Son are one and the same entity ?.(Which by implication also answers the question of the Virgin birth and the resurrection ).
My belief is that Jesus represents an example to follow not absolves me of my/any responsibility in that regard.
As stated, unlike Switch ?, I do believe in the afterlife.However what that afterlife will be is up to God’s discretion not me. I can only ask that he looks favourably on my soul.
‘If’ I’m wrong in that belief, which I’m sure I’m not, I obviously wouldn’t know or care about it just like any atheist.We’ll all just go out like a burnt out candle and nothing in life matters or is relevant from that point.

The trouble with atheism,the more I think about it,it brings more unanswered questions.It doesn’t bring more wisdom and knowledge.You have the question of how everything came into being from nothing.Life began and continues from nothing.And what about time and space.Does time go on forever or is there an eternity past? Does space go on forever?And then there is the issue of human consciousness.If the brain has 100 billion neurotransmitters,what do you get when you join 100 billion super computers together?
You get a very fast robot that can only do as you tell it.
Christians don’t have all the answers.I sometimes wonder why God allows evil,I can only guess.He is in absolute charge of everything and even rules over time itself.Why did the fallen angels rebel when they knew they couldnt win?

Sploom:
The trouble with atheism,the more I think about it,it brings more unanswered questions.It doesn’t bring more wisdom and knowledge.You have the question of how everything came into being from nothing.Life began and continues from nothing.And what about time and space.Does time go on forever or is there an eternity past? Does space go on forever?And then there is the issue of human consciousness.If the brain has 100 billion neurotransmitters,what do you get when you join 100 billion super computers together?
You get a very fast robot that can only do as you tell it.
Christians don’t have all the answers.I sometimes wonder why God allows evil,I can only guess.He is in absolute charge of everything and even rules over time itself.Why did the fallen angels rebel when they knew they couldnt win?

The rebellion by the forces of evil is obviously ongoing and God’s retaliatory strikes don’t happen here in this world for us to see.That’s why you think that God allows it because you just don’t see his artillery being fired or landing because his guns are beyond our comprehension in terms of their power and his actions are happening on a totally different front and battlefield that we ain’t privy to at least possibly until we leave here either by his will or by the forces of evil.Also bearing in mind that those enemy forces by definition are a peer adversary so it’s going to be a long fight even with his powers and arsenal.
Bearing in mind that like all the rest it makes more sense if you don’t take the book of Revelations literally.
As for time and space science is going to get a wake up call if/when it finds out that there is another explanation for the red shift other than the supposed ‘expanding’ universe created from a supposed ‘Big Bang’.

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
[ Some of us are just here to have a good life and enjoy our time in the sun. What happens after we’re gone is irrelevant and not our concern.

That idea isn’t mutually exclusive with belief in God.In fact more like the opposite.God is totally in control of our destiny after life at least whatever that destiny may or may not be.While can only hope that the clauses forgive us our tresspasses, lead us not into temptation, deliver us from evil, meant and mean what they said literally and will be taken into account and we measure up on arrival.
While if it all turns out to be misplaced belief then obviously nothing lost either way because in that case we’ll obviously know nothing about it.
Ego is totally irrelevant by that logic.

Didn’t say it was, was merely answering a question as an atheist

Sploom:
Carryfast.
Just for the record,I am far from perfect and I would go so far as to say,there are better people than me in hell now.
But the Bible is pretty clear on this subject.There is no repentance after death.You only have this one short life to accept or reject Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross as full payment for your sins.You only get one crack at this.You have to get it right the first time.If you get it wrong,there is no turning back

Do you never stop and think what a load of old nonsense that it all is though? Read back what you’ve written……would the god you supposedly believe in really be that petty and childish?

Sploom:
The trouble with atheism,the more I think about it,it brings more unanswered questions.It doesn’t bring more wisdom and knowledge.You have the question of how everything came into being from nothing.Life began and continues from nothing.And what about time and space.Does time go on forever or is there an eternity past? Does space go on forever?And then there is the issue of human consciousness.If the brain has 100 billion neurotransmitters,what do you get when you join 100 billion super computers together?
You get a very fast robot that can only do as you tell it.
Christians don’t have all the answers.I sometimes wonder why God allows evil,I can only guess.He is in absolute charge of everything and even rules over time itself.Why did the fallen angels rebel when they knew they couldnt win?

And yet he seems to be a very small minded petty man.

switchlogic
It’s irrelevant whether I think it’s childish or not.It is what it is.
If you believe a perfect God created everything,then it must follow that He has to punish sinners.And here is the problem.That’s us! Every one of us has sinned in many ways,whether it’s lying,■■■■,anger,cheating,gossip,the list goes on.If you havent done any of these,you will get to Heaven but if you have,then there is a price to be paid.Imagine a judge in a court of law.He has to serve justice.He cant just overlook everything and dismiss the case.
Jesus came to save sinners from the wrath of God but it is a free choice whether to accept the free gift of salvation or meet God on judgement day when ALL our deeds will be laid bare.Nobody will be able to blag their way out of it.God has to punish sinners,otherwise He wouldn’t be a holy and good God