Come on then Sploomy,.I’m.waiting.
Just to re.cap…
You asked me to define my opinion of your brand of your religion resulting into it leading to what I termed as a shallow and restrictive life.
I answered you and I gave you accounts of my past and present life, and that of MY family and our non religious non restrictive, and what I would term as fuller life…to provide you with a comparison to answer
I asked you how your family compared, and the lifestyle of your kids compared to that of my kids.
I also asked your opinions on failed marriages and you were reluctant to answer.
Your reply was a complete cop out,…so have you had enough time and advice to carry on the debate that YOU started with me, or have you admitted defeat.
Dont do the usual tactic of quoting cack from the Bible…what do.YOU think?
Zac_A
We dont hold the view that a woman who has made out with a guy should not be allowed to marry or if a woman has had a number of ■■■■■■ partners,that she shouldnt marry.But the divorce isuue is more difficult to deal with.I mean,if a woman tells you she has been married three times and each time,she got bored and decided to quit,are you going to take the risk of being number 4.I certainly wouldnt.
We had a woman come to the elders saying her husband is lazy,he drinks too much and she has had enough and wants out.The elder told her you promised for better for worse,you just happen to be in a worse.Why not alter the wording and say,I stay with you forever for better,full stop.You made a promise.
But if the woman is innocent of any wrongdoing,say her husband has left her,then thats different.Although the catholics would say such a person is still married,we dont take this view.We think God doesnt permit divorce but we dont try and make the argument that it doesnt exist
I have to get back to you on that,Robroy.Wine time now.
My wife says I start rambling after drinking a bottle of wine,so the same thing will probably happen if I type long posts on difficult topics…
Oh ffs grow up man.
I thought we were 2 adults having a discussion.
You’ve been backed into a corner,.you can not find a suitable answer to justify yourself, and you have spit the dummy out.
Challenge someone with a similar intelligence and intellect to yourself next time then.
I can see your train of thought and it would be a good point if you were talking to a nun or a preist that have celibacy vows,but we dont have them.
So,I can enjoy this gift from God.
Sploom:
You and me both got married in a church many years ago.
How does that make my life restrictive but yours free
You are deliberately smoke screening.
I dont live my entire life by a restrictive religion as you do irrespective of whether or not I married in a church…the reason for which I have already covered.
Now answer the questions clearly put to you… if you can.
Sploom:
Zac_A.
It was locker room talk,no way would I put on the feedback ,I just used it as an example of the cheap talk you hear every day
“Locker room”, another Americanism…
Put it this way, if the DVSA/JAUPT External Visitor had been in attendance that day, your Mr Maturity trainer would be receiving some very harsh Feedback in the form of an Action Point or several. So, not a good day out for him.
Haha,I have to confess,I lead you on a bit there by copying Donald Trump’s expression!
Seriously,I am English but I pick up these american terms from listening to american pastors sermons on the podcast.
But it goes to show,anyone can pretend to be anybody online and when you hear about people being scammed and think,oh it would never happen to me,it is possible.Its like Robroy.Ive never met him but,yes he makes me laugh and you form a mental image of that person but for all I know,it could be anybody.Unless you see the person face to face
Sploom:
Zac_A
We dont hold the view that a woman who has made out with a guy should not be allowed to marry or if a woman has had a number of ■■■■■■ partners,that she shouldnt marry.But the divorce isuue is more difficult to deal with.I mean,if a woman tells you she has been married three times and each time,she got bored and decided to quit,are you going to take the risk of being number 4.I certainly wouldnt.
We had a woman come to the elders saying her husband is lazy,he drinks too much and she has had enough and wants out.The elder told her you promised for better for worse,you just happen to be in a worse.Why not alter the wording and say,I stay with you forever for better,full stop.You made a promise.
But if the woman is innocent of any wrongdoing,say her husband has left her,then thats different.Although the catholics would say such a person is still married,we dont take this view.We think God doesnt permit divorce but we dont try and make the argument that it doesnt exist
So being bored of a slob of a partner is lacking in “innocence”?
Divorce is often simply people realising they made a mistake, but your “Elders” believe they can tell women, “you made your bed, you can lie in it”?
I honestly cannot believe you are a UK middle-aged truck driver, you have the immature absolute certainty in the self-righteousness of your own DIY “religion”. I have never in my sixty-plus years met an adult, experienced in the ways of the world, who has such a childish approach to “morality”.
You remind me of someone online a few years ago, on a saxophone players forum, a teenage American saxophonist, who stopped listening to Charlie Parker when he discovered what a massive drug addict Parker had been
(FYI Charlie Parker basically invented modern jazz saxophony single-handedly)
I made a promise to my wife.have and to hold,cherish,vant remember the rest.I cant go back on it.Its my word.Whats wrong with keeping to one’s word?
Nobody twisted my arm or put a gun to my head.I made my marriage vows completley voluntarily.
How can you slate me for that?
Im not self righteous!
Our belief system is based on the righteousness of Jesus Christ.
But about the saxaphonist,I wouldnt take things that far.Ive never done drugs apart from a couple of inhales! It didnt have any effect on me,I had enough problems with alcohol and cigarettes without bringing drugs into the mix
Sploom:
I made a promise to my wife.have and to hold,cherish,vant remember the rest.I cant go back on it.Its my word.Whats wrong with keeping to one’s word?
Nobody twisted my arm or put a gun to my head.I made my marriage vows completley voluntarily.
How can you slate me for that?
So what if things go sour to the point where you can’t stand the sight of each other bordering on hate?..it often does happen,. you dont plan it that way.
You carry on leading a miserable life …to keep your word eh?
Get real mate
Yes,I know what youre saying but let me just quote some of the things I heard women say over the years.
1.He is overweight.
2.He doesnt give me attention.
3.I deserve better.
I think thats enough and on the face of it,it seems reasonable requests,but heres the thing.When you read between the lines,this isnt LOVE for her husband.Its love for HERSELF!
She isnt getting what SHE wants.Its got nothing to do with love for her husband.
If I signed up to what the Bible says,I have to love my wife as my own body.Thats ingrained into me now.Now ,we all love our own bodies,you dont need the Bible to tell you that,but if you have the mentality that youre living with someone that youre comanded to love as your own body,how can I end up in a loveless marriage
Sploom:
I made a promise to my wife.have and to hold,cherish,vant remember the rest.I cant go back on it.Its my word.
So what happens if your wife sees the light and has the courage to tell you to ***K off and take your fundamentalist savagery with you, plus stands up for your kids to rescue them from it as well.
Will you make her life, and your kid’s lives hell, to stop her from seeing sense and kicking you out ■■
