A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

What do you mean,safe abortion?
Its not safe for the baby is it?

Sploom:
I do wonder if you hold me to a perfect standard while you think its alright salute Satan!
If thats not hypocrisy,well,I dont know…

A) I don’t “hold you to a perfect standard”, it is you who pontificate and try to “convert” people who are quite content with their own current world view. This is the very epitomy of “holier than thou”, I can’t think of a single person I know who finds that acceptable.

B) My quoting of The Satanic Bible was a fairly obvious extracting-the-urine comment.

C) My comments on that publication cannot be hypocritical because at no time have I said that I advocate the opposite of their major tenets, some of those being:
Doubt everything, and avoid dogma;
Treat others as they treat you;
The (hard) truth of existence should never sacrificed for a comforting lie;
Leaving wrongs unpunished merely encourages miscreants to continue preying on others;
“Man” is just another animal and elevating the human species to a position of “superiority” over other animals is blatant self-deceit.

I would not disagree with any of those statements, so I cannot be hypocritical in that regard

Sploom:
What I tried to always say is that Im not a reflection of what God requires for entry into Heaven.Ive never claimed to be,so there is no hypocrisy involved here.

I would refer you to my comments regarding your pontification and “holier than thou” attitude, all of which seem to be based on your fear of real existence and wanting to be “special” and reside in a mythical “heaven” with your mythical “God”, so you can thumb your nose at “sinners” in a mythical “hell”.

As I’ve said before, you evangelist characters are nothing but narcissists, full of “pride” in how righteous you believe you are. Here’s some of what your own BBOFT says about the way you present yourself on TN

Isaiah 13:11 "I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty”
Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall”.
James 1:26 “Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless”

Sploom:
Whisperingsmith.
Yes,we are soldiers for Jesus Christ fighting a war in the spiritual realm.
Our war is in the spiritual realm,we are at war with the things God hates,like sin

Well… Doesn’t look to good for you then does it? Pride, arrogance, hypocrisy, self-deceit, I’m fairly sure they’re all sinful in your book, as well as not loving your enemies and perhaps for you worst of all, Mark 12:31 "You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Sploom:
Whisperingsmith.
Yes,we are soldiers for Jesus Christ fighting a war in the spiritual realm.Satan and his legions of demons are gaining strongeholds in the high spiritual places and we are outnumbered but God has promised us victory in the end.

But does that make us terrorists?.I suppose Satan and his followers would call us terrorists.
Isnt one mans terrorist another mans freedom fighter?

Since your failed evangelistic attempts and ever more desperate attempts to look like a good guy rather than a terrorist, I’ve discovered ever more frightening facts about your lot in the USA, for example the Christian “Georgia security force militia”. Redirecting...

For you to say you don’t belong to a terrorist organisation suggests you know very little about the cult you have joined and how dangerous it is to society.

So,have you rang the terrorist hotline,tell them theres a terrorist by the name of Sploomy lurking around on trucknet…

Zac_A.
I am trying to be a better Christian sure.Thanks for the encouragement and the Bible quotes

Sploom:
So,have you rang the terrorist hotline,tell them theres a terrorist by the name of Sploomy lurking around on trucknet…

I’m sure they already have you on their books, along with all the rest of your Cult members. That’s why we have GCHQ, and all the MI*s.

Sploom:
Zac_A.
I am trying to be a better Christian sure.Thanks for the encouragement and the Bible quotes

Encouragement? Good god No! I wouldn’t encourage anyone in their irrational delusions,
but I’m happy to be of assistance in pointing out relevant hypocrisies.

Not least of all because your “Elders” are doing a pretty poor job of spelling out what your “lifestyle choice” really means.

Perhaps you should stop telling other people what to think until you’ve properly understood what you’re meant to be doing yourself?

whisperingsmith:
OK Sploom:

Just some of the shocking facts about your USA Evangelists:

US Christian Right groups, many with close links to the Trump administration, have spent at least $280m in ‘dark money’ fuelling campaigns against the rights of women and LGBTIQ people across five continents.

Organisations led by some of Donald Trump’s most vocal allies and supporters have spent increasing amounts of money globally to influence foreign laws, policies and public opinion in order “to stir a backlash” against ■■■■■■ and reproductive rights.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trump-us-christian-spending-global-revealed/

More than 20 US Christian groups known for fighting against LGBT rights and access to safe abortion, contraceptives and comprehensive ■■■■■■■■■ education have spent at least $54m in Africa since 2007. These are the results of a new investigation by openDemocracy, which documents the scale of this spending for the first time.

The Fellowship Foundation, a secretive US religious group whose Ugandan associate, David Bahati, wrote Uganda’s infamous “Kill the Gays” bill, is the biggest spender in Africa. Between 2008 and 2018, this group sent more than $20m to Uganda alone.

Some of these groups appear to be spending increasing amounts of money in Africa. “Their imperialist DNA simply hunts for bigger spheres of influence,” said Sylvia Tamale, a prominent Ugandan law professor and gay rights defender, in reaction to openDemocracy’s findings.

None of the US groups reveals the identities of their funders or details of how exactly they spend their money overseas. Globally, openDemocracy found that a larger group of 28 US organisations had spent at least $280m around the world to influence laws, policies and public opinion against ■■■■■■ and reproductive rights.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/africa-us-christian-right-50m/

The preachers getting rich from poor Americans
The preachers getting rich from poor Americans - BBC News

And a documentary on the frightening impact of Evangelical Christians, who have a huge impact on American politics. Many of these people are socially conservative, consider themselves patriots, and believe that Americans have a constitutional right to own guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S33bTCrv-vE

You sound like that leftie JeffA. You the same person using a different login?? :unamused:

Came across this, which I reckon perfectly sums up Christians:

Marky-p:

whisperingsmith:
OK Sploom:

Just some of the shocking facts about your USA Evangelists:

US Christian Right groups, many with close links to the Trump administration, have spent at least $280m in ‘dark money’ fuelling campaigns against the rights of women and LGBTIQ people across five continents.

Organisations led by some of Donald Trump’s most vocal allies and supporters have spent increasing amounts of money globally to influence foreign laws, policies and public opinion in order “to stir a backlash” against ■■■■■■ and reproductive rights.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trump-us-christian-spending-global-revealed/

More than 20 US Christian groups known for fighting against LGBT rights and access to safe abortion, contraceptives and comprehensive ■■■■■■■■■ education have spent at least $54m in Africa since 2007. These are the results of a new investigation by openDemocracy, which documents the scale of this spending for the first time.

The Fellowship Foundation, a secretive US religious group whose Ugandan associate, David Bahati, wrote Uganda’s infamous “Kill the Gays” bill, is the biggest spender in Africa. Between 2008 and 2018, this group sent more than $20m to Uganda alone.

Some of these groups appear to be spending increasing amounts of money in Africa. “Their imperialist DNA simply hunts for bigger spheres of influence,” said Sylvia Tamale, a prominent Ugandan law professor and gay rights defender, in reaction to openDemocracy’s findings.

None of the US groups reveals the identities of their funders or details of how exactly they spend their money overseas. Globally, openDemocracy found that a larger group of 28 US organisations had spent at least $280m around the world to influence laws, policies and public opinion against ■■■■■■ and reproductive rights.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/africa-us-christian-right-50m/

The preachers getting rich from poor Americans
The preachers getting rich from poor Americans - BBC News

And a documentary on the frightening impact of Evangelical Christians, who have a huge impact on American politics. Many of these people are socially conservative, consider themselves patriots, and believe that Americans have a constitutional right to own guns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S33bTCrv-vE

You sound like that leftie JeffA. You the same person using a different login?? :unamused:

The fact that Socialism is ideologically opposed to religion, especially Judo/Christian religion, is no surprise or mystery.
Although Islam is obviously selectively viewed more sympathetically by it when it suits the anti US agenda.

Zac_A
You are approaching the subject from the completley wrong angle.You are looking to find contradictions in God’s word or even in what I write(!) but this doesnt give you any benefit,even in sucess

Robroy.
I would like to talk about the tribulation but I need to do some more reading first

Sploom:
Zac_A
You are approaching the subject from the completley wrong angle.You are looking to find contradictions in God’s word or even in what I write(!) but this doesnt give you any benefit,even in sucess

Ah… It’s Friday night, you’ve cracked open your bottle of vino I see, you’re making even less sense than usual :laughing: Or was that some nonsense one of your Elders told you to say? Your philosophy and BBOFT’s is just one big mass of contradictions.

Sploom,Stop with the crap about everything being GODS word,it is not,no -one has spoken directly to God by telephone, mail or Email.Thse are words witten, read,spoken & misinterpreted by MEN.

Hutpik.
We believe scripture is the word of God.
We pray to God.But scripture is God’s word for us

I dont know what BBOFT means.

Christians spreading fear.
Fear only exists if you believe what it is thats being described.If I told you there was a 20 foot monster in the park going round biting people,you wouldnt be frightened because you wouldnt believe me.

If you dont believe in God,do you wish there was an infinitley good God?
But if you imagine such a God existed hypothetically,where would you stand with him?
Would you look forward to meeting him?

Sploom:
If you dont believe in God,do you wish there was an infinitley good God?
But if you imagine such a God existed hypothetically,where would you stand with him?
Would you look forward to meeting him?

You just don’t ■■■■ in get it do you? :unamused:
It is beyond your logic and comprehension to realise and accept that anybody who is not superstitious or gullible could never wish for a ‘god’, as they do not exist,.they are a figment of the imagination of gullible and insecure people.
So.the other parts of your question are totally irrelevant. :unamused: