Tarrman:
Regarding the OP. Is this the same bloke who was taking the pictures of vehicles speeding and parking inconsiderately? Get a lifeMods please delete this thread it doesn’t help the trucknet community, it’s just posted purely to cause disruption.
It only causes disruption if you respond to an obvious troll 
war1974:
can we not set up a billy [zb] / gripes / moans / trolls section as this site is getting worse and worse
There is a forum for that 
You’re on it now 
Here I sit in my ‘tin box’ all the comforts of home, no rushing around at the end of the day, no getting up in the middle of the night to rush back into work and do it all again.
One point for the posters making derogatory comments calling the cab a ‘tin box’ I wish it bloody was, tin is fetching around $21,000 a tonne at the mo!
dafdave:
truckman20:
strange letter,for a start how do you know that the taliban earn more than the drivers in this country,and where do you get the figure of £3.50 an hour,no driver in this country would work for that hourly rate if thats what it is,and as other drivers have said if you do not like the job, QUIT, its a simple equasion and not rocket science,you are obviously not happy as a driver,and if you still have age on your side there are plenty of other jobs you can do,thats providing you can find the time instead of wasting said time ranting at other drivers on this site,if you have nothing constructive to say then stay off the site, simple as thatI,ll second that.
regards dave.
cheers dave
Re 3.50 a hour
What you are being paid is 20 pound a night and your 8 to 10 pound an hour for other work, its simple you start at 5 in the morning and work and drive till 5 in the evening, and park up till 4 or 5 next morning. You are either on a set daily rate or hourly rate, by the way this is for people who are a little bit slow in calculating the hours they spend in work and the people who hate to admit what they really are working for. So based on the hours it works out at 5 pound a hour if you get 10 pound a hour for working 5 in the morning to 5 in the evening and 12 hours in bunk and the reason you get five a hour is because you worked for 24 hours in the job you are on company time, and half of you time is paid in a way some people would call a token payment ie 20 pound for 12 hours, if the truth be known you are probably not insured to even be in the truck because you are not being paid a proper rate, I know that applies to company premises that you have to be on the clock to be insured, so if you are insured it means your on the clock with the company, so that means your on five pounds a hour. Happy days.
The reason we do it, well just read all the posts, to get a break from home.
Please reduce hourly rate for 3.50 rates.
nightline:
Re 3.50 a hour
What you are being paid is 20 pound a night and your 8 to 10 pound an hour for other work, its simple you start at 5 in the morning and work and drive till 5 in the evening, and park up till 4 or 5 next morning. You are either on a set daily rate or hourly rate, by the way this is for people who are a little bit slow in calculating the hours they spend in work and the people who hate to admit what they really are working for. So based on the hours it works out at 5 pound a hour if you get 10 pound a hour for working 5 in the morning to 5 in the evening and 12 hours in bunk and the reason you get five a hour is because you worked for 24 hours in the job you are on company time, and half of you time is paid in a way some people would call a token payment ie 20 pound for 12 hours, if the truth be known you are probably not insured to even be in the truck because you are not being paid a proper rate, I know that applies to company premises that you have to be on the clock to be insured, so if you are insured it means your on the clock with the company, so that means your on five pounds a hour. Happy days.The reason we do it, well just read all the posts, to get a break from home.
Please reduce hourly rate for 3.50 rates.
I don’t know what jobs you have done in the past but I have never had a job where they class sleeping as work. If it was classed as work VOSA woild have a field day.
NewLad:
nightline:
Re 3.50 a hour
What you are being paid is 20 pound a night and your 8 to 10 pound an hour for other work, its simple you start at 5 in the morning and work and drive till 5 in the evening, and park up till 4 or 5 next morning. You are either on a set daily rate or hourly rate, by the way this is for people who are a little bit slow in calculating the hours they spend in work and the people who hate to admit what they really are working for. So based on the hours it works out at 5 pound a hour if you get 10 pound a hour for working 5 in the morning to 5 in the evening and 12 hours in bunk and the reason you get five a hour is because you worked for 24 hours in the job you are on company time, and half of you time is paid in a way some people would call a token payment ie 20 pound for 12 hours, if the truth be known you are probably not insured to even be in the truck because you are not being paid a proper rate, I know that applies to company premises that you have to be on the clock to be insured, so if you are insured it means your on the clock with the company, so that means your on five pounds a hour. Happy days.The reason we do it, well just read all the posts, to get a break from home.
Please reduce hourly rate for 3.50 rates.
I don’t know what jobs you have done in the past but I have never had a job where they class sleeping as work. If it was classed as work VOSA woild have a field day.
I would love to know what you dream about as to where you are when you’re asleep.
Tell me were you are when you wake up. In work I hope. Everything is VOSA fault they don’t pay your wages.
I’m about 12 inch away from my workplace instead of 10 mile away if I was at home 
if you hate the job so much as it seems you do, why don’t you ■■■■ off to Tesco and stack shelfs?? You’d be back on here complaining how ■■■■ a job that is no doubt. 
nightline:
Re 3.50 a hour
What you are being paid is 20 pound a night and your 8 to 10 pound an hour for other work, its simple you start at 5 in the morning and work and drive till 5 in the evening, and park up till 4 or 5 next morning. You are either on a set daily rate or hourly rate, by the way this is for people who are a little bit slow in calculating the hours they spend in work and the people who hate to admit what they really are working for. So based on the hours it works out at 5 pound a hour if you get 10 pound a hour for working 5 in the morning to 5 in the evening and 12 hours in bunk and the reason you get five a hour is because you worked for 24 hours in the job you are on company time, and half of you time is paid in a way some people would call a token payment ie 20 pound for 12 hours, if the truth be known you are probably not insured to even be in the truck because you are not being paid a proper rate, I know that applies to company premises that you have to be on the clock to be insured, so if you are insured it means your on the clock with the company, so that means your on five pounds a hour. Happy days.The reason we do it, well just read all the posts, to get a break from home.
Please reduce hourly rate for 3.50 rates.
it sounds to me,like you`re not happy in life.may I suggest making changes
I’m happy, and i’m not thick.
nightline:
NewLad:
nightline:
Re 3.50 a hour
What you are being paid is 20 pound a night and your 8 to 10 pound an hour for other work, its simple you start at 5 in the morning and work and drive till 5 in the evening, and park up till 4 or 5 next morning. You are either on a set daily rate or hourly rate, by the way this is for people who are a little bit slow in calculating the hours they spend in work and the people who hate to admit what they really are working for. So based on the hours it works out at 5 pound a hour if you get 10 pound a hour for working 5 in the morning to 5 in the evening and 12 hours in bunk and the reason you get five a hour is because you worked for 24 hours in the job you are on company time, and half of you time is paid in a way some people would call a token payment ie 20 pound for 12 hours, if the truth be known you are probably not insured to even be in the truck because you are not being paid a proper rate, I know that applies to company premises that you have to be on the clock to be insured, so if you are insured it means your on the clock with the company, so that means your on five pounds a hour. Happy days.The reason we do it, well just read all the posts, to get a break from home.
Please reduce hourly rate for 3.50 rates.
I don’t know what jobs you have done in the past but I have never had a job where they class sleeping as work. If it was classed as work VOSA woild have a field day.
I would love to know what you dream about as to where you are when you’re asleep.
Tell me were you are when you wake up. In work I hope. Everything is VOSA fault they don’t pay your wages.
My point (as you well know) was when asleep in the ‘tin box’ do you leave it on other work seeing as your at work as you say? No you take you tacho out because you’re not at work.
I really like Nightline. Sounds like the sort of bloke I’d like to go down the pub with. He’s have to pay though, my night out money wouldn’t cover it.
Come on then nightline, it’s not just truck drivers that can do work away from home, as I’ve said, the only person I know of who gets paid all hours is orys, a member on here, who I think is driving a van. Now I know of plenty of others in different industries that don’t get paid all hours, but I don’t doubt there are plenty that do get paid and I’m sure it’ll be the standard in some industries, so can you give us any examples please?
Its easy and convienient to misinterpret what the op is pointing to, you’ll need to, to defend your job and dubvious tramping honours, the job of hgv driving in the EU/UK overall if you’re asked to tar it all with the same brush you’d have little option but to brush on a liberal coating of excrement, some of you are not only your own enemies but by being so are the enemies of thousands, what you are willing [stupid?] enough to do obligates others having to do, working in an employment arena where you face the prospect of having to ■■■■ and ■■■ into bottles and bags is faced by what other industrial workers in the EU 2013 on any sort of regular basis?, no other truckers in the western world are subject to such hidious over regulation that they can be forced to toilet like dogs because of impacts by regulations, with other regulations housing drivers like dogs, you’re one hell of a sucker believing an EU sleeper cab is anything but a friggin kennel on wheels, dont take my word for it though, have a glance at the truck cabs in the real western world.
Drivers are as gutless as the easy imposition of the dcpc proves, a great advert to EU despots of how childishly easy it is to tramp over ‘tough truckers’, have you ever thought what inspires those socialist turds to churn out their fanatical ■■■■-like dictates?, its down to drivers being divided and spineless which ensures you the ‘many’ can be ‘raped’ by them the ‘few’, as easily observed as it affecting wages resulting in compared to twenty years ago you’re on no better than half pay, and whats with this different scenery crap?, jesus wept does telling the bank manager what views you’ve seen get you a bigger mortgage?, in all my life I’ve yet to see any scenery that registers as being worth paid less wages for driving past it.
With working hours and hygiene levels of Dickens time and fighting to retain your right to be ‘at odds’ with other industries having cleaned up their acts, just how low are some workers expectations in life?, just how easy are you to satisfy?, a chromed up, curtained up, cushioned up kennel on wheels with an array of pointless lights attached, for wages that you dare not mention, like the hours worked themselves.
Oh yeh sorry to upset any awfully thick tramper held opinion but TNUK is not a trampers, night outers, nights away closed shop, you are aware that the majority of drivers DO NOT do nights away, complicated I know for certain drivers to comprehend, let me spell it out you are the odd ones out, on many levels, not those who go ‘home’ at the end of every shift, on that basis maybe trampers should think to zzbb off from the site, the ‘isn’t life wonderful fairyland club’, as deluded rose tinted spectacle wearing trampers becomes vomit inducing over the years for others to observe, try looking at life in the cold light of day occaisonally.
I’ve made shed, truck and train loads of money from driving over a forty year period, there are plenty like me who have done just as well and a lot better and like me have avoided long hours and nights away like the plague, four in fourty years not one in a ‘cell’, your voluntarily entered into lowering of basic human rights, I’ve not heard of prisoners toileting into bottles and bags whilst doing 80+ hour weeks which would upset the EU commissioners along with prisoners being ‘banged up’ overnight in a cell of your size, is bound to be a subject for disscussion amongst ordinary drivers who dont want what your willing to do affecting their working lives, bizarre as that might register with you professionals, carry on living your trucking dream, it registers to me as a trucking nightmare.
Well put Lorn trakta just a pity they cannot see things the same way.
Yeah because I do ■■■■ and ■■■■ into a bag or bottle every single night don’t I?! makes me laugh how some deluded folk on here think trampers are living in some sort of third world conditions because they sleep in a truck at night. Oh and don’t compare us to prisoners and some how think they have it better than us. The last time I looked a prisoner has a few bars blocking his view out of the window and more than likely is sharing his living space with pond life who doesn’t like his choice of tv and stinks the cell out when he has a ■■■■■■
I don’t judge a driver or call them thick because they would just rather do day work so I would expect a little bit of the same back, mind you reading some of the posts on this thread then I doubt it as some seen to think its because of trampers that the working conditions and wages are what they are today.
why do you have to ■■■■ in a bottle or bag? you can walk to the toilet you may be out all week at other depots which have showers and facilities? good god how to put everyone into a single slot. if you tramp finish work have a meal shower then go back to the cab sit watch a dvd or tv then go to sleep its no different from what I would do at home
and as for drivers sticking together lets look at what has worked out so well for other trades (shipbuilding, coal mining, car manufacturers!) now all pretty much obsolete in this country, so sticking together doesn’t always driver rates up or give better conditions.
Lorn’s post is the best post ever on here.He speaks the truth and some do not like the truth.
He is correct that drivers are spineless and no back bone on how we are walked all over with new rules.
We had the chance.But did nothing except moan at Rdc waiting room.
When log books ended and tachos were brought in we missed a chance to change things.
The same with speed limiters.In my opinion they are dangerous.Who gave permision for the super market trucks to be set at a lower limit.
One day a serious accident will happen by somebody going up the back end.
All because a twit in an office is saving fuel and it looks good on his flow charts and graphs on his wall.
My Scania 142 had no limiter.I did not crash and die.Fully freighted over foreign mountains it was safer.One day Brussels will tell you to drive wearing a hard hat and like sheep we will abide by their rules.
Why are there so many whining children on here??
Those slating trampers - have you ever done it?
Those slating trunkers - have you ever done it?
Those slating tipper drivers - have you ever done it?
The list could go on & on
We all have opinions on other driving jobs that we don’t do, but why do so many on here have to moan & slate them if you have never done it.
Would make a nice change if people could look on the positive side of things for a change, we all have good & bad things about the jobs we do & maybe it’s time we all started posting about the good points to our jobs & maybe just maybe we might start to respect each other & might just learn something about another kind of driving job that may inspire someone who is unhappy in there current position to change to a different role that suites there life style better.
Why dont drivers stick together to say to these firms we deliver to and ask why we can not rest in the cab while on a bay.
Everywhere are signs of drivers must remain in the waiting room and return to tge cab after handing the keys in.
That power nap needed may save a life if a driver fell asleep.Got to think of the children here.
Failure to abide by their site rules will result in a ban for life.Why do we put up with this.?
If you are an owner driver how do they tell employer not to send that driver again.?
