K5Project:
You still didn’t answer if you took the pic with hands free or not
Why would anyone care ?
tachograph:
K5Project:
You still didn’t answer if you took the pic with hands free or notWhy would anyone care ?
Agreed, especially as she is obviously stationary at the time the photo was taken.
Coffeeholic:
Agreed, especially as she is obviously stationary at the time the photo was taken.
WOMEN who put on their make-up while at the wheel could face jail, an expert has warned.
Those who slap on a quick slick of lipstick while the lights are red could be breaking the law.
And those who check their Âappearance in the wing mirror even risk losing their licence.
Celebrity lawyer Nick Freeman said a motorist is considered to be driving at all times once the ignition is switched on — even if the vehicle is stationary at lights.
Not like you to not know the law, Neil! 
Harry Monk:
Coffeeholic:
Agreed, especially as she is obviously stationary at the time the photo was taken.WOMEN who put on their make-up while at the wheel could face jail, an expert has warned.
Those who slap on a quick slick of lipstick while the lights are red could be breaking the law.
And those who check their Âappearance in the wing mirror even risk losing their licence.
Celebrity lawyer Nick Freeman said a motorist is considered to be driving at all times once the ignition is switched on — even if the vehicle is stationary at lights.Not like you to not know the law, Neil!
I wasn’t coming at it from a legal point of view, more a who cares/what harm did it do stance. 
I personally don’t care, but the simple fact is that Kate committed an endorsable road traffic offence in taking that photograph, and moreover one which would be far more readily identifiable as a road traffic offence to the average police officer than that of having an insecure load.
And as the Good Book tells us, “Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thine brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
Straps on sheet steel are about as usefull as a pork pie at a Jewish wedding. If for some reason the load starts to shift no amount of straps will stop it, sheet steel would slice through them like a hot knife through butter.
There was an incedent in the 80’s where a pack of sheet steel came adrift on a flat bed (I think it was in Northampton) and about 6 sheets slid across the road and cut a car containing two people in half.
Harry Monk:
I personally don’t care, but the simple fact is that Kate committed an endorsable road traffic offence in taking that photograph, and moreover one which would be far more readily identifiable as a road traffic offence to the average police officer than that of having an insecure load.And as the Good Book tells us, “Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thine brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
Point is there’s some laws even the most arsey of coppers can’t be arsed with. I’d say that’s one of them
Kate:
This is possibly the scariest sight I have seen on the road in my entire life. It certainly is the most unprofessional…
I’m not seeing the drama. I know i’m the only one so far to say otherwise, but i can’t be the only one thinking…just where is that load gonna go? If it loaded and secured basically on its own weight and you’re aware of this and drive it accordingly its never gonna come off. Has everyone gone namby pamby all of a sudden, what next, don’t drive a truck without a airbag? I’ll guarantee i could get that anywhere, safley without it coming off. Stick that in ya pipe and smoke it !!
I have to disagree mate, it’s not just the turning on islands and harsh braking every bump and pot hole and suspension bounce will leave the load momentarily airborne or at least lighter, couple that with a long trip you will have movement, a sky scraper weighs a ■■■■■■■■ but still moves during an earth quake
Would that guarantee be valid if you had a red air line blow?
This kind of load is secured using gravity and friction - however if the gravity is greater than the friction the load will move - tight cornering and braking both produce .5G + - so if the friction isn’t enough the load will move - that why we strap loads to increase the friction to stop them moving
it was and is an accident waiting to happen - !!!
cheers
Steve
Is there no a chance it will end up going through the cab never mind off the side though.
Would that guarantee be valid with a loved one stood alongside it, fact is why would youbtake the risk for an extra 20 minutes work
Mike-C:
I’ll guarantee i could get that anywhere, safely without it coming off.
I wonder how many drivers have said that before losing a load, I imagine most of us have and do carry loads that aren’t secured as the powers that be say they should be secured, but that loads just not safe.
It’s not a case of everyone going “namby pamby” it’s just knowing where to draw the line.
Can anyone post a link to a news report suggesting that this load came off of the trailer, or did it end up where the driver intended it to go?
Mike-C:
If it loaded and secured basically on its own weight and you’re aware of this and drive it accordingly its never gonna come off.
“No mate, it’ll never move. It weighs 70 tonnes, nothing is going to shift that!”
It might have got there this time but why would you risk it for 20 minutes work seriously. That attitude kills people, it may not have happened on that load but plenty of loads have let go after poor loading. So if you still thinks it’s safe please give us all prior notice if you ever get a load like that so I can get my loved ones away
ive never carried steel so havent been trained but surely he wouldve at least used 2 or 3 straps on each bundle. Yes i know steel needs chains because it will slice through straps.
mikey-t:
so I can get my loved ones away
There’s quite a few of you who like the ‘i’'s dotted and the 'T’s crossed. I’ve come across this before. Its almost akin to needing army orders…you need stuff in black and white. Yes/No. No idea of using your own initiative.
…“.I’ve no idea why my tanker fell over at the roundabout, i wasn’t exceeding the 40 mph speed limit”
The fact that 40 MPH is to fast although fully legal , escapes them. Thats just an example.
How on earth do heavy/unusual loads get about? Some are clearly not compliant with legislation, they go slow and have an ■■■■■■. This seems to make it ok.
Now what you couldn’t do with that load is sit up someones arse on a single carriage way moaning they are only doing 40, you may also have to slow down and plan your approach to roundabouts, junctions and traffic lights. What you couldn’t do is drive it like your car and rely on modern technology, and perhaps a few legal straps ! And before anyone says there’s legislation to stop you driving like a ■■■■, there maybe but it aint effective because drivers are still not prosecuted for rollovers. So, where’s ya safe guard against them, or is it just down to luck or chance?