Either landlords will have to reduce rents or a mass of people will need to move outside the greater London area which will make the situation worse in other counties
I know other areas besides London might be affected but greater London area is taking the biggest hit
Typical of the Govt … lets move the problem instead of sorting it !!
tommy t:
markoc:
Yeah I know a few women who are friends of the ex-mrs. Single mums, 2 or 3 kids claiming for everything and better off for it too, it’s a lifestyle choice they’re choosing.
It seems the workers are the ones who get screwed all the time by the greedy rich and the crap governments.That’s what a lot of girls do, You forgot to mention the afternoon lambrusco parties that they like to have.to ■■■■ off their neighbours My concern is this are the kids getting a poor diet so mother can get waisted with her mates
Forget the kids diet, worry about the scumbag that child is most likely going to grow into due to this culture.
I’ve literally just came out of a subway and there was a young mother with her baby in the pram. She stormed out to confront another girl for looking at her through the window! ‘Wtf you looking at’ etc. some kids really don’t have a chance
Yes it’s a vicious circle, we already have at least one genreration of this culture,that are now of adult age
tachograph:
The government say you need £500 per weekDo you have a link to this story, or are you confusing it with the fact that benefit has been capped at £500 for a couple or single parent.
mac12:
Same thing really if you need £500 when on benefits why not when working.
It’s not the same thing at-all, the government have introduced a cap of £500 for a couple or single parent or £350 for a single person.
It’s not a target it’s a cap, a maximum amount of benefit that can be paid, I imagine many people will get less.
Many working people also get benefits and many of those benefits should also be stopped or reduced in my opinion.
The cap is a step in the right direction, I’m not sure that I would say it goes far enough, but it is a step in the right direction.
tachograph:
tachograph:
The government say you need £500 per weekDo you have a link to this story, or are you confusing it with the fact that benefit has been capped at £500 for a couple or single parent.
mac12:
Same thing really if you need £500 when on benefits why not when working.It’s not the same thing at-all, the government have introduced a cap of £500 for a couple or single parent or £350 for a single person.
It’s not a target it’s a cap, a maximum amount of benefit that can be paid, I imagine many people will get less.
Many working people also get benefits and many of those benefits should also be stopped or reduced in my opinion.
The cap is a step in the right direction, I’m not sure that I would say it goes far enough, but it is a step in the right direction.
Quite right,even though I worked full time,mrs worked full time,daughter had 3 part time jobs,student at college we still got benefits,family credits was one I remember,never needed it,just used to save it for holidays,as tachometer says not just those who don’t work who get benefits.
And as for its always the single mums fault 
,know plenty of lads who’ve sowed there seeds and zb off ,know a lovely lass,3 kids,was a full time nurse,he just upped and ■■■■■■ off one day,left her in a right mess,lass is now bringing up 3 kids and doing a bloody good job of it,doing bank shifts as and when family and friends can help her out to look after little ones,I guess she’s getting benefits but not sure,but I don’t begrudge the lass a penny,she works bloody hard at keeping those kids smart and well looked after and the main thing is she’s keeping them together as a family,more than he’s done,always the women’s fault 
dozy:
And as for its always the single mums fault
Bulls crap!!
She’s not keeping those kids smart… I am!! And all the other taxpayers!!
ROG:
Either landlords will have to reduce rents or a mass of people will need to move outside the greater London area which will make the situation worse in other countiesI know other areas besides London might be affected but greater London area is taking the biggest hit
Typical of the Govt … lets move the problem instead of sorting it !!
Are there so many well-paid jobs in central london that the vacant lets created by the mass-migrating low paid folk will be snapped up at full price by some other worker who can pay cash for the rent without any benefits at all?
So…Where are the job ads for actual jobs?
I don’t believe there are many more office jobs around than there are driving jobs - proper jobs with a full time contract and full wage high enough to pay £1000+pcm rents I mean…
The way I see it, Landlords will attempt, and fail, to get new tenants in on the full rent, realise they can’t, then gradually go bust in the order that they have outstanding mortgages on the property. Eg. Mortgage paid off=last to go bust, Johnny come lately landlord=goes bust by August Bank Holiday.
mac12:
From today the government say that if on benefits you need £500 per week which includes rent, so any driver not taking that amount home maybe time to get the sack and start claiming.
I may be in the USA but I stay in touch via BBC and I was listening to this story, it does say a family should get that in unemployment and a single person should get 350 quid.
It’s not worth going to work for less is it ?
Who or what employer are going to give these people a job if they come off benefits. There are a lot of hard working people losing their jobs and have very little chance of finding another one. They get thrown into the benefit system through no fault of their own.
The people who don’t want to work will always get by, because they know how to work the system.
Perhaps we should remind ourselves that its not usually a case of being on benefits or being in a job
There are more people working who are on benefits than those not working at all
OK, those benefits have different names in many cases but they still come from the same pot
If we really want people off benefits altogether then we need jobs with decent living wages
I like the way that this Govt refers to ‘those in work’ and ‘those on benefits’ when many of those ‘in work’ are on benefits !!
Many tend to think of those ‘in work’ as having full time jobs but that is not the case because by ‘in work’ they include all those doing part time jobs
Doing any sort of work will reduce the benefits paid out and is supposed to make the claimant better off but when factors such as travel and paying for medicines/dentist etc are taking into account it can often mean they are worse off
Oh, one more thing, this Govt states it has created loads of jobs in the private sector but what it fails to mention is that most of those jobs were transferred from the public sector - local authority run schools switching to being academies are a prime example.
Pat Hasler:
‘… I stay in touch via BBC…’
Fair play, matey.
Top-tip: Despite what lefty-BBC propaganda freely tells the world (at the cost of our telly-tax and with the EU’s reliance upon our ignorance feeding their pie-fest via the mainstream political parties), the Bulg-manian influx (to include drivers!) due after Crimble will surely cane whatever 500 quid type figure IDS dishes out to EU people dossing-down in the EU’s British zone 
Perhaps a clampdown on Hand Car Washes is in order?
How about introducing a DCPC type qualification for handling all those high-value vehicles effectively?
…Or Forbid anyone doing that job from being Self-Employed except the producer themselves?
At the moment these places are just benefit farms - make no mistake.
Couple on TV this morning, 6 kids last worked 2005 getting £26000 in benefits. A working man would have to earn at least £35000 gross to take that amount home but they get it to stay at home breeding.
Before anyone says most of that will be to pay there rent they live in a one bedroom flat but want a four bedroom house which will mean more rent so more benefits to pay it. People like that should have there kids taken from them as they cannot look after them so cannot be good parents or only be able to claim for one child.
This country is one massive pile of crap and its only going to get worse 
My wifes mother and partner and wifes sister live together…sister has kid to unknown father…they have never worked in all the yrs ive known them ! i keep away make my ■■■■ boil…they run the system…have every top gadget known to man…ipads iphones satnav…50 inch tv surround sound run a car etc etc…the list is endless, lay in bed till lunchtime they just laugh at the silly twots going to work keeping them in the lifestyle they have, his brother is so called disabled claims everything…even taxes there car for free he has his own car, they are not disabled just f****g bone idle…he the the wifes mothers partner sold his car to get another…sold it as taxed and tested for 12 months…yeh disabled tax ! non transferable…and done this more than once…all claiming benefits in one way or another and abuseing the system and nothing ever gets done about it…add these into a statistic and there are hundreds if not thousands like them…and milked it for decades.
I work & the misses works , borh full time , we private rent , pay all our bills & are entitled to no help , fair enough , we manage . We are getting married in October & we have discussed having a child , the problem is if the misses is out of work my wage alone will not be enough to support us , yet I’m just over the threshold of getting any help in benefits due to my wage , we would also like to buy a house but that won’t happen so were stuck renting paying the full amount , the local council do have housing at low rent but as we both work we are not eligible to get it or even fill in the forms ,the advice given to us was to not get married! Have a kid , make out I’ve left the misses before its born ! They will then pay her rent on the house in full , plus other benefits , we can pretend that we are trying to sort things out & I’m only there 3 nights a week , all my wage is then my own coz I won’t have rent etc to pay ! That was from a government advisor, this is what happens in this country , so by trying to do things right you get shafted, but go the other way & your taken care of …
kemaro:
I work & the misses works , borh full time , we private rent , pay all our bills & are entitled to no help , fair enough , we manage . We are getting married in October & we have discussed having a child , the problem is if the misses is out of work my wage alone will not be enough to support us , yet I’m just over the threshold of getting any help in benefits due to my wage , we would also like to buy a house but that won’t happen so were stuck renting paying the full amount , the local council do have housing at low rent but as we both work we are not eligible to get it or even fill in the forms ,the advice given to us was to not get married! Have a kid , make out I’ve left the misses before its born ! They will then pay her rent on the house in full , plus other benefits , we can pretend that we are trying to sort things out & I’m only there 3 nights a week , all my wage is then my own coz I won’t have rent etc to pay ! That was from a government advisor, this is what happens in this country , so by trying to do things right you get shafted, but go the other way & your taken care of …
Your only problem might be getting a separate address which does not then affect the situation for another
What they dont say is that 65% of the outgoing is because of pensioners
Now I dont begrudge them anything it at all as most have worked all there lives or been partners of those that have worked this should be a separate budget
The cap of £500 is for couples & as 1 poster pointed out it was mainly for rent & council tax but with the universal credit it will all now be given to the individual so they will have to pay rent council tax etc where as now they dont see that it as it goes straight to the respective council
The £500 is mainly for the inner london where rent is high the other problem we have is lack of social housing so those that do work cant get so are forced into private rent but now under the new government proposal if your rent is high then they wont pay all of it
They have also brought out a bed room tax so people similar to me ( ok I am working & dont claim if was on a slightly lower wage would get some help ) who family have grown up moved out & are still living in a 2/3 /4 bed house we are expected to just up & leave or pay if 1 spare room 14% if 2 spare rooms 25% of the rent this applies even if your child is at uni was also the forces but they have give an exception to this
There is in my area a lack of 1 bed properties not 2/3
There is help for people that are working used to be called Working Tax Credit but have changed there name
ROG:
kemaro:
I work & the misses works , borh full time , we private rent , pay all our bills & are entitled to no help , fair enough , we manage . We are getting married in October & we have discussed having a child , the problem is if the misses is out of work my wage alone will not be enough to support us , yet I’m just over the threshold of getting any help in benefits due to my wage , we would also like to buy a house but that won’t happen so were stuck renting paying the full amount , the local council do have housing at low rent but as we both work we are not eligible to get it or even fill in the forms ,the advice given to us was to not get married! Have a kid , make out I’ve left the misses before its born ! They will then pay her rent on the house in full , plus other benefits , we can pretend that we are trying to sort things out & I’m only there 3 nights a week , all my wage is then my own coz I won’t have rent etc to pay ! That was from a government advisor, this is what happens in this country , so by trying to do things right you get shafted, but go the other way & your taken care of …Your only problem might be getting a separate address which does not then affect the situation for another
My parents live not to far away so that wouldn’t be an issue , however were not going down that route .
I know q couple who live in a flat attached to his parents house , his address is the house , hers is the flat , his parents get paid the rent as the landlords & give it back to them , they see nothing wrong with this , it grips my sh it … another works on a boat out of the country , comes home for a few weeks a time, his misses gets the benefits & rent paid for 3 kids , claim they’re separated, he doesn’t even pay tax on his earnings…
