Ex Haulier:
Tip your hat to him, started off with sod all. He wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
■■■■ of!!! He was rich by the time he was 18 - he didn’t struggle 
i think it was probably just a bit later than 18.
I guess you must have difficulty in relating to the “east european” situation being in Barry. I mean they ain’t got much self respect, but Barry ■■?. They got to draw the line somewhere ain’t they.
Ex Haulier:
i think it was probably just a bit later than 18.I guess you must have difficulty in relating to the “east european” situation being in Barry. I mean they ain’t got much self respect, but Barry ■■?. They got to draw the line somewhere ain’t they.
whatever… You keep talking ■■■■■■■■, and I’ll keep laughing at you 
Not half as much as i’m laughing at you mate. I’ll have a particularly good one as i fly over you place in the morning. You truly do deserve everything you get.
Ex Haulier:
Somebody from “my generation” thinks the same as i do.
At the end of the day its the way of the world. Its the same with most countries & companies. People will do whatever it takes to get work & earn money. Just look at the big haulage companies, they have undercut the smaller companies in order to win contracts which in turn puts wages down & so on & so on. Foreigners just want to better themselves & earn for their families.
Think about it, if the uk was to stop all foreigners from coming to the uk then other countries could do the same. All the people who love to swan off abroad for 3 months might not be able to do that even for a holiday.
There are as many brits living abroad as there are foreigners in the uk so we may aswell get used to it & stop moaning & winging like little kids. Unless the government changes things then nothings gonna change simple as
Ex Haulier:
Not half as much as i’m laughing at you mate. I’ll have a particularly good one as i fly over you place in the morning. You truly do deserve everything you get.
Whys that? you flying abroad again to live for 3 months
Tyler, i’d ignore them mate. You hold your head high, the system is designed to protect people and make working worthwhile and stop anyone from falling into poverty. Look at the past posts of the ones doing the slagging and you’ll see a pattern emerging !!!
basically from this thread ex-haulier wants us all to commend him,blow smoke up his arse because he has a house in spain but when the going gets tough and he cant earn his 500 a week for 32 hours in jan feb an march he shoots off to spain,ploughing money into their economy,leaving us to deal with the mess of this countrys imagration policy and forcing drivers to claim what they are ENTITLED to.
well done ex-haulier you have achieved soooo much in life,youre the best,a great ambassador for the uk…
in harsh reality youre probably the most annoying poster i ve ever had to read on here,would you prefer tyler to give up his job and then you can mock him even more…you make me sick,the type of person this country could do without so why not go the full hog and clear off to spain full time with all the others that cant hack living in the uk. do they do trucknetspain.com so you can go an annoy them and tell them how great you are
tyler you re doin nothing wrong,claim whats yours,what you pay into…ignore ex-haulier,by the sound of it most do and he probably argues with himself whilst in his cab,after hes finished telling himself how great he is.
Just read this post,taking the pee arnt they, 
a man i know is looking for a South Scotland to France and north Spain euro driver, 4 or 5 nights out, and is paying 200ish more than this (£325) on a salary and can,t find a driver, maybe it the difrerence between the areas 
Good kit and legal too,
Klunk
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Just read this post,taking the pee arnt they,
Klunk
£325 for 5 nights out? Does that inc night out money and all parking?? 
WOW, that’s errrr 
Ex Haulier:
Cultural differences ?. So is that yes or no ?.Thank you for informing us of the germany situation. I have to say i find it rather hard to believe that thriving germany pays less than poland or britain.
Well, I doubt that Germans (i thought we write the country and nationality names with capital letter in English, maybe I am wrong here as well?) bother if you believe or not. They pay what they can afford and it’s not as much to cause mass migration from Poland. Yes, some people work in Germany and make better money, but many can do better money in Poland - it’s not only construction workers but also graduate engineers for example, and (this is especially bright example) programmers.
You seem to ignore the fact that i pay for my house in spain for twelve months of the year, yet seem to think i should pay income tax when i have no income there. Your argument does not make sense.
Yeah, you pay some kind of property tax for 12 months. No wonder, as it’s not a tent, you don’t stuff it into your boot when you come back to Britain. Somehow can’t see how it makes you a hero.
My point, as others tried explain to you, is still valid: you might be paying your property tax, or council tax, however it sounds, but you don’t pay anything else, yet where you are in Spain, you are not limiting your activities only to watch the flowerbed outside Town Hall, which is funded by the local taxes. You drive on their roads, you are covered by their ambulance and fire service, you are protected by their police etc etc.
As for the article you linked:
First, somehow rockman who was kicked out of school at 15 is not a big expert on economical issues (or any other complicated issues, really, maybe except from rock music) for me. I know that you think that if he’s the celebrity, he must be wise, but a quick look at Paris Hilton shows that it does need to be the case 
But let’s focus on this text anyway:
“Daltrey, 67, is now worth £32 million but as a boy he was too poor to buy a guitar so fashioned his first instrument from a block of wood and old wire.”
Somehow what I can see now, the unemployed young Britons can afford as many guitars as they want, if only they decided to spent their benefits on guitars, instead of ■■■■ and cheap cider. And guess from whos taxes this benefits are paid to them? Mine, yours, hadr working Britons and also all hard working Eastern Europeans. And as on average 7 of 100 Poles are taking any benefits, compare to 35 of 100 Scots, if you do the math it will become very clear: relation between what they pay to the jar, and what they take from it is much “worse” in case of Poles.
So it can be clearly seen who is paying for whom.
(I doubt it would be possible, if these Poles were coming here only for holidays and only income from them would be the council tax).
orys:
Yeah, you pay some kind of property tax for 12 months. No wonder, as it’s not a tent, you don’t stuff it into your boot when you come back to Britain. Somehow can’t see how it makes you a hero.My point, as others tried explain to you, is still valid: you might be paying your property tax, or council tax, however it sounds, but you don’t pay anything else, yet where you are in Spain, you are not limiting your activities only to watch the flowerbed outside Town Hall, which is funded by the local taxes. You drive on their roads, you are covered by their ambulance and fire service, you are protected by their police etc etc.
So it can be clearly seen who is paying for whom.
(I doubt it would be possible, if these Poles were coming here only for holidays and only income from them would be the council tax).
just for the benefit of Orys and everyone else who thinks those of us expats who live abroad should be using trucknetspain and can’t hack living in the UK a little information for you so you can get back to the point,
“council tax” in spain goes to the local council who pay not only for the flower beds but also the fire service and police are council employees and the concil collect the local tax for the roads and health service as well leaving the big government to do the income tax and benefits bit so if ex haulier pays 12 months IBI for 3 months stay the local council actually benefit out of him.
clarkyboy:
clear off to spain full time with all the others that cant hack living in the uk. do they do trucknetspain.com so you can go an annoy them and tell them how great you are
so according to clarkyboy we.re not welcome on here and should post on a spanish forum and couldn’t hack living in the UK? does that apply to the others who try to help other drivers on the euro forum or the expats in the states and canada?
welshboyinspain:
just for the benefit of Orys and everyone else who thinks those of us expats who live abroad should be using trucknetspain and can’t hack living in the UK a little information for you so you can get back to the point,
Where I said that?
“council tax” in spain goes to the local council who pay not only for the flower beds but also the fire service and police are council employees and the concil collect the local tax for the roads and health service as well leaving the big government to do the income tax and benefits bit so if ex haulier pays 12 months IBI for 3 months stay the local council actually benefit out of him.
Man, so that has to be really expensive tax. I heard that British council tax (which goes to council) is the most expensive in Europe, but if this Spanish one is high enough to pay for all services Ex Haulier might be benefiting from when in Spain, it has to be several times higher…
…or it’s just the system similar to the Polish one, where the hospitals are belonging to local council, but they have some money from central goverment to keep them running 
And mind, that even if Ex Haulier is not in Spain, local police, fire brigade etc still protect his house, the road outside his house is sweeped, the water pipes are maintentaned even despite that there is less sewage going into them etc etc etc.
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Just read this post,taking the pee arnt they,
Klunk
I’ve never done euro work, but have a passport and willing to travel for job - even have a caravan to live in etc…
Feel free to drop me his number 
orys, clarkyboy said we couldn’t hack it in the UK not you thats why i included his quote later.
yes in spain the local town hall run the police, fire, schools and local roads all paid for by the council tax payer not the income tax payer. cartax goes to the townhall as well to pay for the roads.
income tax goes to the government to pay for social services system and gets distributed between the regions for health service and other larger services.
i’m not getting involved with the sponger argument or the pay (each to their own needs) but don’t have a go at someone without the facts 
welshboyinspain:
orys, clarkyboy said we couldn’t hack it in the UK not you thats why i included his quote later.
OK
yes in spain the local town hall run the police, fire, schools and local roads all paid for by the council tax payer not the income tax payer. cartax goes to the townhall as well to pay for the roads.
income tax goes to the government to pay for social services system and gets distributed between the regions for health service and other larger services.
Yeah, so it’s imilar system to the Polish one. So Ex Haulier does not contributes to “health service and other larger services”.
I also suppose that, similar to Polish system, local council is responsible for local roads, but as for the trunk roads, they are funded (or partially funded) by the central goverment, as this is simply to dear for the local councils anywhere… If you know, please tell me if I am right on that (and I will be really surprised if not).
i’m not getting involved with the sponger argument or the pay (each to their own needs) but don’t have a go at someone without the facts
Yeah, this is my plan every time I got involved in some Polish thread - I just want you to know the facts, as, you can see it even in that one, often some false conclusions are drawn as they are based on a wrong assumptions and lack of knowledge.
So as I learned now that Ex- haulier contributes something to the local community (by this local taxes), i still stand by my corner: he still does not contribute to Spain as much as Poles who work here (if one for example works for that fridge company in Belshill, he’s not in Scotland for the most of his time as well, and he goes for holidays to Poland, yet he pays not only the council tax, but also his income tax and NIN contributions). And I somehow can’t see that when he finally retire, he will be spending most of his time in UK, having house in Spain…
Clarkyboy, you are damned right I cant hack living in the UK but at least ive had the bottle to get up off my arse and get the hell out of that craphole you live in.
And as you say the UK is in a dreadful state, and whose fault is that? Its not ours (ex pats) its yours and those like you who have allowed your government to trample over what few rights you had and repeatedly shaft you as well as making you pay for every limp, lame and lazy sod who climbs off the latest bum boat to arrive on your beknighted shores. Enjoy!
Hombre:
And as you say the UK is in a dreadful state, and whose fault is that? Its not ours (ex pats) its yours and those like you who have allowed your government to trample over what few rights you had and repeatedly shaft you as well as making you pay for every limp, lame and lazy sod who climbs off the latest bum boat to arrive on your beknighted shores. Enjoy!
Just a wee off-topic question: you said “your goverment”. Does it mean that as you move out of Britain you are no longer allowed to vote?
If you arent resident in UK then you wont be on the voters roll so cannot vote - Im registered to vote in Spain.
Hombre:
If you arent resident in UK then you wont be on the voters roll so cannot vote - Im registered to vote in Spain.
Thanks. I asked, as we, Poles, have right to vote as long as we have citizenship, so when there are elections in Poland all I have to do is to register with the consulate in Edinburgh and then turn up in one of the voting stations they establish (if you are in some country where there is not much Poles, you usually have to go to the nearest embassy).