£10.00 day charge for hauliers proposed

orys:

Coffeeholic:

orys:
…but because it’s called road tax…

It’s not called Road Tax.

I hope this helps.

It is called road tax in common language.

Call it wtf you like but it doesn’t make it right.

orys:
But it helped: you proved my point. No matter, vehicle tax, car tax, road tax - everyone knows what I am talking about.

Yeah, but it’s none of those either, in fact it’s not called a tax at all.

Coffeeholic:

orys:

Coffeeholic:

orys:
…but because it’s called road tax…

It’s not called Road Tax.

I hope this helps.

It is called road tax in common language.

Call it wtf you like but it doesn’t make it right.

orys:
But it helped: you proved my point. No matter, vehicle tax, car tax, road tax - everyone knows what I am talking about.

Yeah, but it’s none of those either, in fact it’s not called a tax at all.

Not according to Direct.gov.uk direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Ow … G_10012524

1-0 to Orys :smiley:
HTH

The Sarge:
1-0 to Orys :smiley:
HTH

It’s not important how it’s called. This is exactly my point. If you can tax foreign vehicles, just rename it to vignettes and everybody will be happy (I am also pro-charging foreign vehicles for using your (or any other country’s) roads).

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:
That’s seen as discrimination against hauliers from other EU countries and is illegal under current EU law, so without a change in EU law cannot be implemented.

FTFY.

You’re welcome.

Thank you, it was an incorrect choice of words on my part :blush:

Coffeeholic:

Winseer:
I can’t see why an “entry visa” for any vehicle with a foreign number plate woundn’t work as part of the customs clearing process at ports.

For trucks coming from EU member states there is no customs clearing process at ports these days, unless they are carrying goods from outside, not yet cleared into, the EU. You just drive off the ferry and straight out of the port unless you are selected for a random inspection. It’s been that way for years now.

That’s exactly what’s wrong with the system!

If you go through customs, and get waved straight through, you still get your passport checked? THAT’S the opportunity for a customs official to say “Foreign PLate - You gotta buy this tax disk Hombre!”
You notice at a glance if the windscreen is not displaying a UK road fund disk for foreigners duffing up our roads and otherwise paying nowt into the system.

Foreigners must laugh their arses off over the British way of bending over and taking it all the time! :imp: :imp:

The A2 is 100 yards from the back window of my house. I’d say there’s very few local hauliers left in my area - But there’s always plenty of foreigners running through! Many of the local operator license holders are based on the A228 corridor. The only one I know that’s actually on the A2 directly is Fowler & Welch at Teyham.

orys:

Coffeeholic:

orys:

Coffeeholic:

orys:
…but because it’s called road tax…

It’s not called Road Tax.

I hope this helps.

It is called road tax in common language.

Call it wtf you like but it doesn’t make it right.

orys:
But it helped: you proved my point. No matter, vehicle tax, car tax, road tax - everyone knows what I am talking about.

Yeah, but it’s none of those either, in fact it’s not called a tax at all.

Not according to Direct.gov.uk direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Ow … G_10012524

They’re wrong.

I hope this helps.

Coffeeholic:
They’re wrong.

I hope this helps.

You can stamp with your leg and rise your hands to stress out your opinion.

I hope this helps :slight_smile:

orys:

Coffeeholic:
They’re wrong.

I hope this helps.

You can stamp with your leg and rise your hands to stress out your opinion.

I hope this helps :slight_smile:

No thank you, no need to do that.

we should charge them, road tax costs, cpc costs,the current vat /tax rate we pay on fuel for every litre they travel…

roughly (best guess, i can’t be assed to do the sums) about a £1 per km surcharge, with there uk entry km and departing km logged at the entry/exit ports.with a discount if they actually buy fuel on our island, also the ability to speak english fluently.

that will slow down the flood,

luckytruck:
we should charge them, road tax costs, cpc costs,the current vat /tax rate we pay on fuel for every litre they travel…

roughly (best guess, i can’t be assed to do the sums) about a £1 per km surcharge, with there uk entry km and departing km logged at the entry/exit ports.with a discount if they actually buy fuel on our island, also the ability to speak English fluently.

that will slow down the flood,

Pound per kilometre :laughing: Say a French trucker comes in via Dover with a load for Glasgow and a return load from Glasgow back to the continent via Dover a 3 day trip in the uk with around 1500kms. That would cost about £1500 :laughing: You do know there is no money in the haulage game as it is don’t you?

merc0447:

luckytruck:
we should charge them, road tax costs, cpc costs,the current vat /tax rate we pay on fuel for every litre they travel…

roughly (best guess, i can’t be assed to do the sums) about a £1 per km surcharge, with there uk entry km and departing km logged at the entry/exit ports.with a discount if they actually buy fuel on our island, also the ability to speak English fluently.

that will slow down the flood,

Pound per kilometre :laughing: Say a French trucker comes in via Dover with a load for Glasgow and a return load from Glasgow back to the continent via Dover a 3 day trip in the uk with around 1500kms. That would cost about £1500 :laughing: You do know there is no money in the haulage game as it is don’t you?

then they should get a uk haulier to take it north, I’m trying to balance the playing field a bit, and a 1500 surcharge, would make em think twice.

luckytruck:
we should charge them, road tax costs, cpc costs,the current vat /tax rate we pay on fuel for every litre they travel…

roughly (best guess, i can’t be assed to do the sums) about a £1 per km surcharge, with there uk entry km and departing km logged at the entry/exit ports.with a discount if they actually buy fuel on our island, also the ability to speak english fluently.

that will slow down the flood,

It would be fun when all other countries demanded their fluent language from British drivers. That would real help your haulage industry :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

luckytruck:
we should charge them, road tax costs, cpc costs,the current vat /tax rate we pay on fuel for every litre they travel…

roughly (best guess, i can’t be assed to do the sums) about a £1 per km surcharge, with there uk entry km and departing km logged at the entry/exit ports.with a discount if they actually buy fuel on our island, also the ability to speak english fluently.

that will slow down the flood,

and watch the sale of mgnets go up as all the foreign drivers shove a magnet on the speedo pick up or they just disconnect the sensor

tachograph:

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:
That’s seen as discrimination against hauliers from other EU countries and is illegal under current EU law, so without a change in EU law cannot be implemented.

FTFY.

You’re welcome.

Thank you, it was an incorrect choice of words on my part :blush:

you should pack in driving Coffee… you would make a great Tax Inspector… such is your attention to detail… we all knew what he meant…but you are the only one to correct him and Embarrass the bloke and then put one of those silly acronyms to be smart and hip…

Persil should be your name…

routier:

tachograph:

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:
That’s seen as discrimination against hauliers from other EU countries and is illegal under current EU law, so without a change in EU law cannot be implemented.

FTFY.

You’re welcome.

Thank you, it was an incorrect choice of words on my part :blush:

you should pack in driving Coffee… you would make a great Tax Inspector… such is your attention to detail… we all knew what he meant…but you are the only one to correct him and Embarrass the bloke and then put one of those silly acronyms to be smart and hip…

Persil should be your name…

STFU. :smiley:

It’s a bit of banter between us, he does it to my posts and I do it to his. Still, don’t let the fact you know [zb] all about it stop you making assumptions eh?

I hope this helps.

Coffeeholic:

routier:

tachograph:

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:
That’s seen as discrimination against hauliers from other EU countries and is illegal under current EU law, so without a change in EU law cannot be implemented.

FTFY.

You’re welcome.

Thank you, it was an incorrect choice of words on my part :blush:

you should pack in driving Coffee… you would make a great Tax Inspector… such is your attention to detail… we all knew what he meant…but you are the only one to correct him and Embarrass the bloke and then put one of those silly acronyms to be smart and hip…

Persil should be your name…

STFU. :smiley:

It’s a bit of banter between us, he does it to my posts and I do it to his. Still, don’t let the fact you know [zb] all about it stop you making assumptions eh?

I hope this helps.

was wondering when you would reply Persie…

what makes ye think I know eff all about it ?

no matter how hard I try , spellin it backwards, it still equates to the same… ■■■.

Dye have any suggestions ?

Ye wanna take this off line Persie then please be my guest and we can sort it … TSR

/ Hope this helps YOU

routier:

Coffeeholic:

routier:

tachograph:

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:
That’s seen as discrimination against hauliers from other EU countries and is illegal under current EU law, so without a change in EU law cannot be implemented.

FTFY.

You’re welcome.

Thank you, it was an incorrect choice of words on my part :blush:

you should pack in driving Coffee… you would make a great Tax Inspector… such is your attention to detail… we all knew what he meant…but you are the only one to correct him and Embarrass the bloke and then put one of those silly acronyms to be smart and hip…

Persil should be your name…

STFU. :smiley:

It’s a bit of banter between us, he does it to my posts and I do it to his. Still, don’t let the fact you know [zb] all about it stop you making assumptions eh?

I hope this helps.

what makes ye think I know eff all about it ?

Well it’s obvious you don’t know it’s a bit of a joke between tachogrph and me and nothing more than that.

Coffeeholic and myself on occasions corrected each others little mistakes, there’s really no offence meant and none taken, just a bit of banter as already said :wink:

Now how about we all get back on topic :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:

Coffeeholic:
Well it’s obvious you don’t know it’s a bit of a joke between tachogrph and me and nothing more than that.

It’s tachograph not tachogrph, tach … o …graph :stuck_out_tongue: :laughing:

tachograph:
Coffeeholic and myself on occasions corrected each others little mistakes, there’s really no offence meant and none taken, just a bit of banter as already said :wink:

Now how about we all get back on topic :stuck_out_tongue: :wink:

when an apology is due, its due , my misunderstanding therefore I apologise.

Am not aware of your “relationship” past or present, just read the post and replied for what it was.

Apologies.