tachograph:
Coffeeholic and myself on occasions corrected each others little mistakes, there’s really no offence meant and none taken, just a bit of banter as already said
And in fact it’s the daft, brain fade ones rather than the obvious ones we tend to do.
tachograph:
Now how about we all get back on topic
I think the charge should be distance based and around 18ppm.
How’s that for on topic? 
tachograph:
Coffeeholic:
Well it’s obvious you don’t know it’s a bit of a joke between tachogrph and me and nothing more than that.It’s tachograph not tachogrph, tach … o …graph
O, my apologies. I can only offer the M6, the crap ride of this Renault Premium, fat fingers and small keys in mitigation.
routier:
tachograph:
Coffeeholic and myself on occasions corrected each others little mistakes, there’s really no offence meant and none taken, just a bit of banter as already saidNow how about we all get back on topic
when an apology is due, its due , my misunderstanding therefore I apologise.
Am not aware of your “relationship” past or present, just read the post and replied for what it was.
Apologies.
No worries, it’s the TruckNet way after all.
Coffeeholic:
I think the charge should be distance based and around 18ppm.How’s that for on topic?
sounds about the same as the Maut in germany, 18c a km just cents and km are european things and pence and miles are imperial things 
welshboyinspain:
Coffeeholic:
I think the charge should be distance based and around 18ppm.How’s that for on topic?
sounds about the same as the Maut in germany, 18c a km just cents and km are european things and pence and miles are imperial things
Where do you think I got the ‘18’ from? 
Every way of entering/exiting the UK in a truck has the ANPR system, so this is my idea…
Put £10 on the price of the Ferry ticket when entering the country, that pays for Day 1 in the UK. When leaving the country in however many days/weeks/months it may be, the ANPR picks up the reg, works out how many days its been here, and puts £10 x the amount of days on the price of the ferry ticket. At the end of each month the UK government claim the revenue back from the Ferry Co. Its almost fool proof, it stops people not paying their tax and trying to “run the gauntlet” without it.
Im sure someone will find a flaw or 2 in my plan but it seems pretty simple to me.
BuzzardBoy:
Every way of entering/exiting the UK in a truck has the ANPR system, so this is my idea…Put £10 on the price of the Ferry ticket when entering the country, that pays for Day 1 in the UK. When leaving the country in however many days/weeks/months it may be, the ANPR picks up the reg, works out how many days its been here, and puts £10 x the amount of days on the price of the ferry ticket. At the end of each month the UK government claim the revenue back from the Ferry Co. Its almost fool proof, it stops people not paying their tax and trying to “run the gauntlet” without it.
Im sure someone will find a flaw or 2 in my plan but it seems pretty simple to me.
the flaw i can spot is how will the UK trucks pay if they don’t get on a ferry?
welshboyinspain:
BuzzardBoy:
Every way of entering/exiting the UK in a truck has the ANPR system, so this is my idea…Put £10 on the price of the Ferry ticket when entering the country, that pays for Day 1 in the UK. When leaving the country in however many days/weeks/months it may be, the ANPR picks up the reg, works out how many days its been here, and puts £10 x the amount of days on the price of the ferry ticket. At the end of each month the UK government claim the revenue back from the Ferry Co. Its almost fool proof, it stops people not paying their tax and trying to “run the gauntlet” without it.
Im sure someone will find a flaw or 2 in my plan but it seems pretty simple to me.
the flaw i can spot is how will the UK trucks pay if they don’t get on a ferry?
Every UK truck will have to make periodic use of the Woolwich ferry, would that be a solution?
Coffeeholic:
welshboyinspain:
BuzzardBoy:
Every way of entering/exiting the UK in a truck has the ANPR system, so this is my idea…Put £10 on the price of the Ferry ticket when entering the country, that pays for Day 1 in the UK. When leaving the country in however many days/weeks/months it may be, the ANPR picks up the reg, works out how many days its been here, and puts £10 x the amount of days on the price of the ferry ticket. At the end of each month the UK government claim the revenue back from the Ferry Co. Its almost fool proof, it stops people not paying their tax and trying to “run the gauntlet” without it.
Im sure someone will find a flaw or 2 in my plan but it seems pretty simple to me.
the flaw i can spot is how will the UK trucks pay if they don’t get on a ferry?
Every UK truck will have to make periodic use of the Woolwich ferry, would that be a solution?
Can you make Nass Industrial Estate on your ferry movements from there, my good mate Phil reckons he can 
BuzzardBoy:
Every way of entering/exiting the UK in a truck has the ANPR system, so this is my idea…Put £10 on the price of the Ferry ticket when entering the country, that pays for Day 1 in the UK. When leaving the country in however many days/weeks/months it may be, the ANPR picks up the reg, works out how many days its been here, and puts £10 x the amount of days on the price of the ferry ticket. At the end of each month the UK government claim the revenue back from the Ferry Co. Its almost fool proof, it stops people not paying their tax and trying to “run the gauntlet” without it.
Im sure someone will find a flaw or 2 in my plan but it seems pretty simple to me.
It was part of my original plan and I suggested similar to an MP. On the lines of Airport Tax, but the problem of the UK haulier who never leaves the country arose.
Wheel Nut:
BuzzardBoy:
Every way of entering/exiting the UK in a truck has the ANPR system, so this is my idea…Put £10 on the price of the Ferry ticket when entering the country, that pays for Day 1 in the UK. When leaving the country in however many days/weeks/months it may be, the ANPR picks up the reg, works out how many days its been here, and puts £10 x the amount of days on the price of the ferry ticket. At the end of each month the UK government claim the revenue back from the Ferry Co. Its almost fool proof, it stops people not paying their tax and trying to “run the gauntlet” without it.
Im sure someone will find a flaw or 2 in my plan but it seems pretty simple to me.
It was part of my original plan and I suggested similar to an MP. On the lines of Airport Tax, but the problem of the UK haulier who never leaves the country arose.
I dont think it would be that hard to enforce a domestic use only tax, the government have records of every vehicle registered for use on British Roads over 7.5t, Give all UK operators the option to have their daily charge added to the Road Tax Cost or payment options(weekly, monthly etc), or forecast the number of days they think they will use the vehicle a year, given that some hauliers dont run 7 days a week. In some cases they government will make a profit from someone who forecasts 250 days and actually only uses 235, and will lose the other way round.It will work even somewhere along the line. Even if the government lose out slightly, there’ll still be quids in compared to the present situation.
Sorry lads and indeed Lasses , my simple solution of implementing the Swiss system would be easier than the doubters and naysayers would allow, if all Trucks of any denomination have to have a valid Tax collect card on entry and exit for example Dover, then that is where you levy the tax, P&O would have a little machine in the booth and a quick scan and KM reading and youre good to go. UK trucks would have a valid card which if duty is paid in advance ie road tax then no levy is extracted, the only reason i espouse this method is to make things a little fairer as regards cost per Km as anyone will attest £10 per day is hardly a fair reflection on the toll paid in other countries, in fact it would be a derisory sum…
welshboyinspain:
if I may give you a foreigners view,
I wouldn’t have a problem with paying whatever fee the government introduce for road usage seeing as under EU laws it will be paid by all trucks, even all those british trucks that never leave dear old blighty will have to pay. it means that the UK government will get more money off UK hauliers as they already pay road tax and they won’t be willing to give any money back.
it will also stop the regular (on here at least) the calls from the unenlightened about “unfair taxes as UK trucks pay twice” well it might surprise some that us johnny foreigners pay just the same as the brits do. every truck in the vignette country has to pay as well as the visiting trucks, every truck on a peage has to pay local and visiting. now before you all shout about UK road tax well in spain not only do we have to pay road tax to the local government for our trucks we also have to pay for the trailer as it is a registered vehicle too, i think the dutch also have to pay tax as well as the vignette.
now onto fuel, i agree that the UK fuel duty makes it harder for UK hauliers to compete but some of the comments above seem a bit daft, if it were legal to limit fuel like the germans used to then the brits would be limited as well and UK hauliers who visit the EU are fully entitled to buy diesel at the same price as everybody else.
be careful what you wish for as the tories just want your money to pay off the labour debt for supporting millions of dole scrounging chavs over the past 14 years
This has hit the nail on the head. 100% in agreement. BTW In Belgium we also pay road tax (tractor unit +trailer is classed as TWO vehicles) + vignette…
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Belgium have to pay the annual vignette on January 1st
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1 year’s road tax PLUS a year’s vignette!!
I have just read through this about the charge on here and I am disappointed in all of you.You sillybillys actually believe Europe works just like the UK…
em…not quite,our Euro colleagues actually pass costs on to those requiring the transport who pass it on and on right down to the consumer YOU,ME,US
whatever our Euro colleagues are charged to travel here in the UK the British consumer YOU,ME,US will be picking up the bill.