Hi was driving today for a agency
and a lad there was driving one of the 7.5 tonners.
It was large enough to hold 12 pallets side by side.
I though this would have been a class 2 wagon?
Be it there wasnt much on the pallets but i thought the size of the DAF
would have made it a class 2 not a 7.5 tonner?
Does not go on physical size ot truck - goes on plated weight or MAM.
Not scientific , but count the wheelnuts on each wheel. if 6 then 7.5. if 8 then over 7.5 but under 17/18 tonnes (LGV C). If 10 full size (LGV C).
Can get artics with 8 wheel nuts - saw one yesterday - I think it was plated at 20 tonnes and had single axle trailer - but not sure on MAM.
it might have been a 12 tonner,very similiar to 7.5 t in size etc,if not id be asking the w/house manager for a weight-breakdown of the load because ive seen plenty of over-loaded 7.5ts on different jobs,when you consider that a pallet can weigh any-thing up to 2 tons! it dont take much to O/L 7.5tonner 
starlocation:
Hi was driving today for a agency
and a lad there was driving one of the 7.5 tonners.It was large enough to hold 12 pallets side by side.
I though this would have been a class 2 wagon?Be it there wasnt much on the pallets but i thought the size of the DAF
would have made it a class 2 not a 7.5 tonner?
That’s a great question starlocation, and as ROG said, the wheelnuts can be a guide.
chrisy boy mentioned one, but there are several sizes of two-axle trucks between 7,5t and 18t.
The size of the body can catch out the unwary, especially if the truck was specced it for a “cornflake” load. (Bulky, but not heavy.)
IMHO the best place to look would be on the vehicle’s plate, usually fixed in the nearside of the cab.
Just look for the part that says “Gross Weight,” if the figure given is more than 7,500 then it’s Cat “C” (Class 2)
The plate in the pic is for an Iveco 18tonner.
ive seen 7.5 tonners that have made me go you re joking 7 ft over hang on the back end but its legal 
7.5 tonners are not required by law to have the orange & yellow markers on the rear.
It’s unusual to see one with them. If there are none then it’s defo a 7.5tonner.
8wheels:
7.5 tonners are not required by law to have the orange & yellow markers on the rear.It’s unusual to see one with them. If there are none then it’s defo a 7.5tonner.
IIRC it’s actually illegal for 7.5 tonners to have these fitted.
IIRC it’s actually illegal for 7.5 tonners to have these fitted.
That’s so stupid it’s got to be true.
@ ROG: My 8.1 tonner has 6 wheelnuts 
8.1 tonnes is an odd size though isn’t it - as it puts the vehicle in C category but without enough of a GVW difference to give any significant advantage over a 7.5 tonner.
Zetorpilot:
@ ROG: My 8.1 tonner has 6 wheelnuts8.1 tonnes is an odd size though isn’t it - as it puts the vehicle in C category but without enough of a GVW difference to give any significant advantage over a 7.5 tonner.
I did say that counting the wheel nuts was not a sientific method and only a guide and as you have pointed out, there are those that do not follow this method of checking. Thanks Zetorpilot - by the way, why did they uprate it to 8.1 tonnes? - any idea.
A BIG THANKS FOR ALL THE ANSWERS 
They got paid less than me lol.
But it was the same size as my class 2 lol.
And mine was heavier so less hand balling
1 more question should the 7.5 tonner speed be limited ?
Cheers all.
starlocation:
1 more question should the 7.5 tonner speed be limited ?
I believe that the recent ones are but the olders ones are not, Those that are restricted are limited on the motorways to the same lane rules as LGVs.
Fairly sure I got that right but please correct me if not accurate
To my knowledge on 7.5t, only 55 and 06 reg plates, are currently exempt from being speed limited. Until january 2008.
Be aware, you would class this is MMTM, because this is what I was told by my transport manager.
Every other 7.5 tonne regardles of age should be, if used commerically, unless they are exempt from the speed limiter for a particular reason.
That particular list of reasons I do not know.
An example that I am familiar with however, just for example… privately owned 7.5 tonne horseboxes, not used for hire are reward, don’t need to be fitted with a limiter.
Sorry WildGoose, but the way you put it means the new ones are not limited but the older ones are - or have I read your post wrong?
Re speed limits:
vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/newsand … miters.htm
There’s a table at the bottom of the linked page showing the requirements.
Speed limiters
The range of vehicles requiring a road speed limiter is
widening and will include:
New vehicles
Goods vehicles with a design weight over 3.5 tonnes and buses
with more than 8 passenger seats (regardless of weight) registered
on or after 1 January 2005, will be required to be fitted with a road
speed limiter. The limiter will restrict the maximum powered speed
to 56mph (90km/h) for goods vehicles, and 62mph (100km/h) for
buses. A speed limiter will not be required until 1 January 2008,
however for vehicles used solely on UK journeys and are either:
Don’t get caught out!
New Speed Limiter Legislation
Older vehicles
Vehicles registered between 1 October 2001 and 31 December
2004 (inclusive), will also need a road speed limiter if they are:
Hi
Thanks again for your answers.
I drove a tiny 7.5 tonner last week carrying wayer.
so was a bit shocked when i saw these huge 7.5 tonners at my new job.
They arent limited but are on a 55 reg.
I know some of the lads drive them at 70 mph.
Which seems a bit scary as they are 13ft tall and have no weight.
so the wind blows about these curtain siders.
ROG:
Use of the offside lane on motorways
The Department for Transport is consulting on the proposal to ban
all vehicles, required to be fitted with a road speed limiter, from
using the offside lane on 3 or more lane motorways.
If the proposal is adopted, the change will begin on 1 January 2005.
Motorway speed limits
It is likely, once all the changes to vehicles requiring road speed
limiters have taken place (after 1 January 2008), the national
motorway speed limit for goods vehicles over 3.5 tonnes and
buses will be lowered.
So they’re not banned from lane 3 at the moment?
mrpj:
ROG:
Use of the offside lane on motorways
The Department for Transport is consulting on the proposal to ban
all vehicles, required to be fitted with a road speed limiter, from
using the offside lane on 3 or more lane motorways.
If the proposal is adopted, the change will begin on 1 January 2005.
Motorway speed limits
It is likely, once all the changes to vehicles requiring road speed
limiters have taken place (after 1 January 2008), the national
motorway speed limit for goods vehicles over 3.5 tonnes and
buses will be lowered.So they’re not banned from lane 3 at the moment?
I think this is where clarification is needed. Did the 2005 proposal come into force and for what type of 7.5 tonner - limited or not 
Does not go on physical size ot truck - goes on plated weight or MAM.
Not scientific , but count the wheelnuts on each wheel. if 6 then 7.5. if 8 then over 7.5 but under 17/18 tonnes (LGV C). If 10 full size (LGV C).
Can get artics with 8 wheel nuts - saw one yesterday - I think it was plated at 20 tonnes and had single axle trailer - but not sure on MAM.
Which makes a complete farce out of changing the rules and changing HGV into LGV.
H for Heavy was snot good enough it seems so they changed it to L for Large as it was supposed to run by size.
Some 7.5 tonners are bigger in actual bulk than some small 15 tonners so I think it was all a load of ****** to make more money for the government - again.