jimroyale:
my truck is a beaver tail, i could make out i was responding to a company vehicle breakdown, but like most of you are saying is it really worth it?? maybe the best course of action is just grovelling,
Councils don’t do grovelling, or any form of plea bargaining, and as for common sense,no chance… it’s all about money.
adam277:
The sign says except for access.You needed it for access simple.
It’s down to them to prove you didn’t. I’m also pretty sure your under zero obligation to provide them with proof. That’s down to them.
Don’t be bullied into paying a fine.
Really?
If anyone admits they are in an except for access area then they have a case to answer. It is up to them to show cause for being there.
If you use self defence in an assault case you need to prove that case. Just saying “self defence” or saying “I needed access” wont wash. . "Bullied into paying a fine"? If you are guilty of breaking a law and a fine is legally demanded, I personally wouldnt call that “bullying”.
Fair enough you got “lost”,but why did you enter the zone in the first place,knowing it had limit on it,why not turn back. IF you didn`t see any signs Specsavers comes to mind
The sign said ‘except for access’ what does that actually mean? To make a delivery? To get some chips? To find a safe area to turn around seeing as you were lost? And WTF has Trading standards got to do with going through a 7.5 ton limit? It’s not anything to do with them,sounds like another way of extorting cash form drivers to fill the coffers of the UK seeing as the corporations and billionaires are exempt!
Way I see them expect for access. If my destination is about 1 mile or less I’ll use it unless I can see an obvious alternate route.
As I don’t know the areas I go.to most of the time.
Anything more than a mile i try to avoid using them
Google Bradford on Avon lorry watch with the anti lorry coffin dodging OAP’s wearing a hiviz with Police written on it .
Numerous successful prosecutions by Trading Standards.
What always amazes me about a lot of Brits is the fact that they will not adhere to rules some of which they are totally ignorant about then when they get caught they want to wriggle out of any prosecution by making silly excuses.
Most of these rules are there for good reason and if you break them or make a mistake just own up and make sure it don’t happen again. 
jakethesnake:
What always amazes me about a lot of Brits is the fact that they will not adhere to rules some of which they are totally ignorant about then when they get caught they want to wriggle out of any prosecution by making silly excuses.
Most of these rules are there for good reason and if you break them or make a mistake just own up and make sure it don’t happen again.
Where the rules make sense yes I agree with you, but recently there have been a lot of 7.5t weight limits going up for no reason other than Mrs Posh Pants doesn’t want HGV’s going down their street and never mind the extra miles driven to get to the delivery or if it means HGV’s going through a housing estate in a poorer part of town as is the case with some.
I sometimes come across (matron) signs 7.5.tonor not suitable for hgv but there is no way of turning around . I often have deliveries or pick ups in rural parts where all of the roads are narrow.
Mazzer2:
jakethesnake:
What always amazes me about a lot of Brits is the fact that they will not adhere to rules some of which they are totally ignorant about then when they get caught they want to wriggle out of any prosecution by making silly excuses.
Most of these rules are there for good reason and if you break them or make a mistake just own up and make sure it don’t happen again.Where the rules make sense yes I agree with you, but recently there have been a lot of 7.5t weight limits going up for no reason other than Mrs Posh Pants doesn’t want HGV’s going down their street and never mind the extra miles driven to get to the delivery or if it means HGV’s going through a housing estate in a poorer part of town as is the case with some.
Really? Have you checked there is not a valid reason? I am fairly certain there is. I have never come across that anywhere in the UK before. Apart from Mrs Posh Pants there are plenty others who do not want heavy lorries thundering down their streets and quite rightly so. Who would want to spend on a fortune on a nice house in a quiet area only to spoilt by someone who cannot follow simple rules.
Your employer first questions should be - who saw the trick and wheres the photographic proof of this alleged offence.
If they don’t have that then its someone writing down number plates and thats not proof. Could either write down the wrong one, or wrote it down elsewhere and claim they saw it.
They do not want to admit anything until proof is offered!
Also does it just state it was seen or they intend to take action? Sometimes its jist a heads up and warning to make sure people are aware. Our lot got one a while back where no action was taken but it was just a warning.
If they did try to take it further, ideally you’d need to know of the limit was signed further back such as junction you turned down so you had chance to avoid it. No good telling you about a limit when the last turning point was 4 miles back.
jakethesnake:
Mazzer2:
jakethesnake:
What always amazes me about a lot of Brits is the fact that they will not adhere to rules some of which they are totally ignorant about then when they get caught they want to wriggle out of any prosecution by making silly excuses.
Most of these rules are there for good reason and if you break them or make a mistake just own up and make sure it don’t happen again.Where the rules make sense yes I agree with you, but recently there have been a lot of 7.5t weight limits going up for no reason other than Mrs Posh Pants doesn’t want HGV’s going down their street and never mind the extra miles driven to get to the delivery or if it means HGV’s going through a housing estate in a poorer part of town as is the case with some.
Really? Have you checked there is not a valid reason? I am fairly certain there is. I have never come across that anywhere in the UK before. Apart from Mrs Posh Pants there are plenty others who do not want heavy lorries thundering down their streets and quite rightly so. Who would want to spend on a fortune on a nice house in a quiet area only to spoilt by someone who cannot follow simple rules.
What tosh read the recent post about houses and industrial estates, do a bit of digging when a restriction goes up on a road that has had no restriction for years and you’ll quite often find a councillor living down there. Just because you buy a house doesn’t mean you own the road
The guy along the road used to report me all the time if I took the truck home as I live in a 7.5t except for access area.
He’s given up now after being told numerous times that access to my house means that I’m exempted from the rule 
Mazzer2:
jakethesnake:
Mazzer2:
jakethesnake:
What always amazes me about a lot of Brits is the fact that they will not adhere to rules some of which they are totally ignorant about then when they get caught they want to wriggle out of any prosecution by making silly excuses.
Most of these rules are there for good reason and if you break them or make a mistake just own up and make sure it don’t happen again.Where the rules make sense yes I agree with you, but recently there have been a lot of 7.5t weight limits going up for no reason other than Mrs Posh Pants doesn’t want HGV’s going down their street and never mind the extra miles driven to get to the delivery or if it means HGV’s going through a housing estate in a poorer part of town as is the case with some.
Really? Have you checked there is not a valid reason? I am fairly certain there is. I have never come across that anywhere in the UK before. Apart from Mrs Posh Pants there are plenty others who do not want heavy lorries thundering down their streets and quite rightly so. Who would want to spend on a fortune on a nice house in a quiet area only to spoilt by someone who cannot follow simple rules.
What tosh read the recent post about houses and industrial estates, do a bit of digging when a restriction goes up on a road that has had no restriction for years and you’ll quite often find a councillor living down there. Just because you buy a house doesn’t mean you own the road
Its not tosh at all. I completely understand why people living in residential areas don’t want lorries driving up and down their streets. It poses a danger to kids and causes unnecessary damage to the surface and kerbs when they bounce up and down them because the road is not wide enough for them to pass when cars are parked.
Why would anyone in their right mind want that? The biggest problem seems to be lorry drivers don’t like being told what to do and think they can do what they want with no thought for others.
Funnily enough these ridiculous problems do not seem to exist in Holland.
jakethesnake:
Its not tosh at all. I completely understand why people living in residential areas don’t want lorries driving up and down their streets. It poses a danger to kids and causes unnecessary damage to the surface and kerbs when they bounce up and down them because the road is not wide enough for them to pass when cars are parked.
It’s not “their” street, as has already been pointed out, but a public road that should be open to all unless there’s a very good reason why not. How is it unnecessary damage when the road’s being blocked by cars. Maybe residents owning too many cars and clogging the roads with them is the problem. The trucks are taxed and shifting goods necessary for the economy.
The councillor thing is bang on, there’s a couple of streets down here that inexplicably have traffic calming and nobody would guess why that would be until you learn of who lives down there. Oh and you should see the exit to the council offices, the only sideroad on to a main road I’ve ever seen that has traffic lights that cut in instantly so when a council bod pulls up to them, the lights go green without them ever having to stop. But yeah, no preferential treatment exists.
SJB:
jakethesnake:
Its not tosh at all. I completely understand why people living in residential areas don’t want lorries driving up and down their streets. It poses a danger to kids and causes unnecessary damage to the surface and kerbs when they bounce up and down them because the road is not wide enough for them to pass when cars are parked.It’s not “their” street, as has already been pointed out, but a public road that should be open to all unless there’s a very good reason why not. How is it unnecessary damage when the road’s being blocked by cars. Maybe residents owning too many cars and clogging the roads with them is the problem. The trucks are taxed and shifting goods necessary for the economy.
The councillor thing is bang on, there’s a couple of streets down here that inexplicably have traffic calming and nobody would guess why that would be until you learn of who lives down there. Oh and you should see the exit to the council offices, the only sideroad on to a main road I’ve ever seen that has traffic lights that cut in instantly so when a council bod pulls up to them, the lights go green without them ever having to stop. But yeah, no preferential treatment exists.
I never said it was “their” street however we are talking about streets that have a weight restriction usually for a very good reason so lorries should not even be going there. TBH it’s only lorry drivers that you ever hear saying it’s because of posh pants or some other daft idea going on in their head. Unfortunately as with most things lorry drivers bring these things on themselves by hammering through areas at ridiculous speeds when sometimes they should not even be there. I used to see it all the time when I lived in the congested UK.
Blame it on everyone else. Usual story. 
jakethesnake:
SJB:
jakethesnake:
Its not tosh at all. I completely understand why people living in residential areas don’t want lorries driving up and down their streets. It poses a danger to kids and causes unnecessary damage to the surface and kerbs when they bounce up and down them because the road is not wide enough for them to pass when cars are parked.It’s not “their” street, as has already been pointed out, but a public road that should be open to all unless there’s a very good reason why not. How is it unnecessary damage when the road’s being blocked by cars. Maybe residents owning too many cars and clogging the roads with them is the problem. The trucks are taxed and shifting goods necessary for the economy.
The councillor thing is bang on, there’s a couple of streets down here that inexplicably have traffic calming and nobody would guess why that would be until you learn of who lives down there. Oh and you should see the exit to the council offices, the only sideroad on to a main road I’ve ever seen that has traffic lights that cut in instantly so when a council bod pulls up to them, the lights go green without them ever having to stop. But yeah, no preferential treatment exists.
I never said it was “their” street however we are talking about streets that have a weight restriction usually for a very good reason so lorries should not even be going there. TBH it’s only lorry drivers that you ever hear saying it’s because of posh pants or some other daft idea going on in their head. Unfortunately as with most things lorry drivers bring these things on themselves by hammering through areas at ridiculous speeds when sometimes they should not even be there. I used to see it all the time when I lived in the congested UK.
Blame it on everyone else.
No the usual story is that you’re right and the rest of the world is wrong, why is it that everyone else’s opinion is wrong or they are talking out of their arse except you, surprised you can get down your street with a halo the size of one of Saturn’s rings around your head
Mazzer2:
jakethesnake:
SJB:
jakethesnake:
Its not tosh at all. I completely understand why people living in residential areas don’t want lorries driving up and down their streets. It poses a danger to kids and causes unnecessary damage to the surface and kerbs when they bounce up and down them because the road is not wide enough for them to pass when cars are parked.It’s not “their” street, as has already been pointed out, but a public road that should be open to all unless there’s a very good reason why not. How is it unnecessary damage when the road’s being blocked by cars. Maybe residents owning too many cars and clogging the roads with them is the problem. The trucks are taxed and shifting goods necessary for the economy.
The councillor thing is bang on, there’s a couple of streets down here that inexplicably have traffic calming and nobody would guess why that would be until you learn of who lives down there. Oh and you should see the exit to the council offices, the only sideroad on to a main road I’ve ever seen that has traffic lights that cut in instantly so when a council bod pulls up to them, the lights go green without them ever having to stop. But yeah, no preferential treatment exists.
I never said it was “their” street however we are talking about streets that have a weight restriction usually for a very good reason so lorries should not even be going there. TBH it’s only lorry drivers that you ever hear saying it’s because of posh pants or some other daft idea going on in their head. Unfortunately as with most things lorry drivers bring these things on themselves by hammering through areas at ridiculous speeds when sometimes they should not even be there. I used to see it all the time when I lived in the congested UK.
Blame it on everyone else.No the usual story is that you’re right and the rest of the world is wrong, why is it that everyone else’s opinion is wrong or they are talking out of their arse except you, surprised you can get down your street with a halo the size of one of Saturn’s rings around your head
Not true, there are many with the same opinion as me. As I already said the only ones that think these weight limits are wrong appear to be lorry drivers.
When Mrs. Posh-Pants wants her bin emptied or a new extension built, television delivered etc. its alright to bring a lorry along.
alamcculloch:
When Mrs. Posh-Pants wants her bin emptied or a new extension built, television delivered etc. its alright to bring a lorry along.
So clever cloggs on that theory we should let lorries free to drive anywhere they want? Why are there so many blinkered people (mainly lorry drivers it seems) that think they have the right to drive anywhere anytime they want just because they cannot be bothered to take a slight detour when there is a restriction.
I mean the vast majority do not even pay for fuel or vehicle costs.
The biggest majority of the population do not want lorries thundering past their houses day and night for various valid reasons and being a lorry driver myself for many years have the understanding why they feel like this and I totally agree with them.
Anyway it all boils to drivers disobeying road signs the same as they disobey speeding regs and many more rules. And some wonder why we have such a bad name. Bad attitudes.