the maoster:
pump:
good safe driving cheggy37 minutes! Longer than I personally thought before someone would say something. Perhaps it was a clip from his dash cam? Personally I don’t give a flying …
Yep, still image taken from video 
Saaamon:
FarnboroughBoy11:
As I’ve said before, I don’t know why they just didn’t go for a couple of feet extra “cut in” and have the tri axles the same length from the back as a standard 45ft trailer. Would it have still past the tests on the turning circle with this?I think they set the roads up, ie at traffic lights etc with that test in mind. Why are you against rear-steer, personally i think its bloody amazing, once you get the hang of it the places you can go and the turns you can make will shock you. You do have to watch the back end but its no different from having lots of overhang, sometimes you only put on a shallow turn on, other times you have to just drive straight until the back end is past whatever your next to then hard lock round.
Not against rear steer at all mate, the only rear steer trailer I have driven is 30ft with a single axle and that thing was brilliant, it was like the trailer wasn’t even there.
There just seems to be a few problems already with drivers taking out stuff with the rear steer, but at the end of the day I suppose it’s the drivers who need to change, not the trailer.
The only thing I can see that would bother me hugely is doing a slow tight turn amongst traffic in two lanes, the swing on the rear must be immense ■■ Even oncoming cars from the opposite direction should watch out on A roads if your turning off rather tightly I would imagine ?
ive been driving one of theses new rear-steer trailers and the only downfall with them is…
backswing…its horrendous, its actually easier to reverse, provided you’ve got the room, on the road they are not a lot different from a 44ft trailer.
Provided they are put on the correct route they are ok, i.e trunking, but if some bozo sat in a office somewhere decides they are going to be used for multi-drop work in city centres, that’s when the trouble will start…
postman pat:
ive been driving one of theses new rear-steer trailers and the only downfall with them is…
backswing…its horrendous, its actually easier to reverse, provided you’ve got the room, on the road they are not a lot different from a 44ft trailer.
Provided they are put on the correct route they are ok, i.e trunking, but if some bozo sat in a office somewhere decides they are going to be used for multi-drop work in city centres, that’s when the trouble will start…
These no getting away from it those trailers really are massive. With the axle spaceing and the rear steer where does it pivot at the back, is it still on the middle wheel? Thats some distance from the middle axle to the rear.
FarnboroughBoy11:
As I’ve said before, I don’t know why they just didn’t go for a couple of feet extra “cut in” and have the tri axles the same length from the back as a standard 45ft trailer. Would it have still past the tests on the turning circle with this?
Have to agree here.
The cut-in you can keep an eye on far more easily than than the rear end swing.
Dedicated routes are gonna be OK I guess but nasty tight cluttered yards are another story.
Another thought - what are they like in high winds unladen?
All our rear steer trailers pivot around the fixed axle. Can’t imagine these are any different.
But, and i know this kind of contradicts… They don’t really pivot like fixed axles, they come round in a gentle arc. You can ‘lose’ them a lot easier.
I think people will quickly get used too It. Just like when they changed from 12M to 13.6M (40 ft-45ft for you Imperials out there)…
postman pat:
ive been driving one of theses new rear-steer trailers and the only downfall with them is…
backswing…its horrendous, its actually easier to reverse, provided you’ve got the room, on the road they are not a lot different from a 44ft trailer.
Provided they are put on the correct route they are ok, i.e trunking, but if some bozo sat in a office somewhere decides they are going to be used for multi-drop work in city centres, that’s when the trouble will start…
I saw one of these last night on the M1 going south, first one I’ve seen in the flesh. 
I passed a Royal Mail 1 on the M6(N), around J17 I think, last night (would have been about 8pm ish??) - not sure how many they’ve got - it looked like it was double deck too. Was it you postman pat?
waynedl:
I passed a Royal Mail 1 on the M6(N), around J17 I think, last night (would have been about 8pm ish??) - not sure how many they’ve got - it looked like it was double deck too. Was it you postman pat?
Nah, wasn’t me, I’ve been doing A Daventry-Bristol-Swindon-Dav on a 6am start…
Yep your right they are double-deck, 16ft 2 high and RM have 45 trailers in service across the network.
i work out of the carlisle voc and do the daventry runs, i was speaking to one of our trainers from warrington and he was saying that weve been given around 40 of the longer trailers and are there are 100 of them on the roads, the rest given to other companies. its a government 10 year project to see how they cope with british roads and if they cut emissions and cutting the amount of miles covered which in turns less trucks and then fewer drivers required to drive the trucks!!!
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10 year report? Sure thats long enough? 
Dont shoot the messenger haha 
Im on the daventry run next week, will have a good look at them and their payload plates etc, see if they weigh much more, if they do, seems like a pointless exersize considering weight values!!!
To get the best out of them they would probs need to be plated to 50tonne and then a suitable unit to pull it, but RM wud say the current cf85 410 specs are good enough!! 
ok not gone through the whole post but whats the problem?? yea its a bit longer but you have rear steer you want rear over hang try a 53’ trailer set to run in california. The rear mud gaurd can not be set futher back then the 41’ mark so that gives you 12’ swing on the back with no rear steer and a unit with the turning circle of a oil tanker, before you start yes I have taken oversize loads into centre of london so I know what the roads are like back in the UK. You get over it.
mccarthys have had one on trial and sent into diageo (guinness) runcorn and tried to put it on the finger bay (8) and bent it on the first day,it hadnt even had a load on it,it was only a trial run by our h&s bloke an a driver,when it happend there was 2 or 3 h&s diageo people watching,and it was being filmed by mccarthys h&s bloke…they got it on the bay,it was when they were coming out they bent it…apparently mccarthys have 4 extended step frames on order for pallet track hub work.
How long will mainstream trailers eventually be. We went from 40 to 45 to 51 feet. What will be the max for uk roads?
Why is everyone calling them “30pallet trailers” you can get alot more than that on a 13.5m?
A standard 13.5m trailer is a 26 pallet or 33 Euro pallet
As most Supermarkets insist on 4 way pallets I asume they go for the 30 pallet option
One of these parked up next to me and as already said, reversed really well. When the driver pulled though, he was very close with the arse to the lorry on his left (at Toddington n/b opposite the truckwash - had to give it a bit of lock to get out)