Just a queery, (ahem)
A mate shipped back in late friday night an parked up at folkestone for his weekend break at 20.30 after shipping out sunday. And when i spoke to him today he said he was putting a tacho in at 20.30 tonight and running home 
Surely thats 7 days 
. Should he not wait til 00.00 tonight.
gunnerheskey:
Just a queery, (ahem)
A mate shipped back in late friday night an parked up at folkestone for his weekend break at 20.30 after shipping out sunday. And when i spoke to him today he said he was putting a tacho in at 20.30 tonight and running home
Surely thats 7 days
Nope, heās had his time off, thatās fine
A reducer! 24 hour weekly rest! 
24 hrs is the minimum weekly rest so why did you think he had to wait till midnight ?
bald bloke:
24 hrs is the minimum weekly rest so why did you think he had to wait till midnight ?
Because then heās shown to be having a card in on 7 consecutive days !!
gunnerheskey:
bald bloke:
24 hrs is the minimum weekly rest so why did you think he had to wait till midnight ?Because then heās shown to be having a card in on 7 consecutive days !!
If that was a probelem, people working nights would be buggered, say, mon - sat nights, finish sunday morning, start monday night againā¦ still 7 days only 6 shifts.
I am actually beginning to realise why people feel that we needed the dCPC 
gunnerheskey:
bald bloke:
24 hrs is the minimum weekly rest so why did you think he had to wait till midnight ?Because then heās shown to be having a card in on 7 consecutive days !!
Yes, thereās nothing to say you canāt do that so long as you have had a continuous 24 hour rest at some stage during those seven days(and a full 45 hour rest the week before and the week after), you donāt have to take a full calendar day off.
Fairly doās lads, was just a bit confused on how it worked out !!
Cheers
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?
Had this ādiscussionā with a twit at work not that long ago. He comes out with the usual crap about not working 7 days and he used to be a transport manager in charge of over 100 lorries. He even told the boss to keep an eye on my hours as I was prepared to work illegally! He said he was going to get someone in from VOSA to explain the drivers hours.
I wrote to VOSA head office in Bristol and asked for clarification in writing that I was correct which they gladly provided and even suggested that said ātwitā receive training in the drivers hours regulations.
When I showed him the letter I can only say he was not pleased especially when the boss made him apologise!!!
He could have put a card in and worked until 24 hours before he set off on Sunday. The regs only refer to 6 x 24 hr periods, not cards or shifts
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?
Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
Well depending what time he started sunday he could of drove home sat morning
Eg if he started at midday sunday he had to midday saturday to take 24
So could of had 9 hour break (if one left)
Left 530 6.5 hours to get home
gettin-on:
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
Well depending what time he started sunday he could of drove home sat morning
Eg if he started at midday sunday he had to midday saturday to take 24
So could of had 9 hour break (if one left)
Left 530 6.5 hours to get home
That man wins a goldfish for the best explanation!
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
an easy example of how the rules work:
if he starts at midday on sunday, he can then work until midday on the following saturday.
thatās working on 7 days of the week, but itās only 6x24 hour periods.
there are a lot of drivers, bosses, transport managers, police, and vosa that canāt get their heads around it until itās explained.
limeyphil:
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
an easy example of how the rules work:
if he starts at midday on sunday, he can then work until midday on the following saturday.
thatās working on 7 days of the week, but itās only 6x24 hour periods.
there are a lot of drivers, bosses, transport managers, police, and vosa that canāt get their heads around it until itās explained.
limeyphil that is exactly how the VOSA head office confirmed it to me.
limeyphil:
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
an easy example of how the rules work:
if he starts at midday on sunday, he can then work until midday on the following saturday.
thatās working on 7 days of the week, but itās only 6x24 hour periods.
there are a lot of drivers, bosses, transport managers, police, and vosa that canāt get their heads around it until itās explained.
I donāt understand it either Philip
It clearly says that in Article 8 at the end of section 6 of the regulations.
A weekly rest period shall start no later than at the end of six
24-hour periods from the end of the previous weekly rest
period.
limeyphil:
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
an easy example of how the rules work:
if he starts at midday on sunday, he can then work until midday on the following saturday.
thatās working on 7 days of the week, but itās only 6x24 hour periods.
there are a lot of drivers, bosses, transport managers, police, and vosa that canāt get their heads around it until itās explained.
Iām not entirely convinced Phil.
If a driver starts at mid-day Sunday and does average 12 hour shifts, then he can start shifts on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
At the end of his Friday shift then he has used six cards and has to take a weekly break.
limeyphil:
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
an easy example of how the rules work:
if he starts at midday on sunday, he can then work until midday on the following saturday.
thatās working on 7 days of the week, but itās only 6x24 hour periods.
there are a lot of drivers, bosses, transport managers, police, and vosa that canāt get their heads around it until itās explained.
That is the right answer.
There is a lot of confusion as to exactly what is meant by ā6x24h periodsā, some people thinking that you use up one of those 6 every time you start a shift and so are limited to 6 cards maximum. However, our friendly VOSA man (geebee45) has confirmed on here in the past that VOSAās interpretation of that is essentially as phil has suggested above and that you can use as many cards as you like as long as you start your next weekly rest no more than 6x24h (=144h) after you finished your last one.
So if you started at midday on Sunday and you had a reduced weekly rest available you would be entitled to work until midday on Saturday before needing to start your weekly rest, even if that means using a seventh card.
Paul
Harry Monk:
limeyphil:
gunnerheskey:
limeyphil:
why didnāt he take 9 hours off and go home on the saturday morning?Because friday was his 6th day !! Heād shipped out sunday previous !!
an easy example of how the rules work:
if he starts at midday on sunday, he can then work until midday on the following saturday.
thatās working on 7 days of the week, but itās only 6x24 hour periods.
there are a lot of drivers, bosses, transport managers, police, and vosa that canāt get their heads around it until itās explained.Iām not entirely convinced Phil.
If a driver starts at mid-day Sunday and does average 12 hour shifts, then he can start shifts on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
At the end of his Friday shift then he has used six cards and has to take a weekly break.
itās nothing to do with how many cards heās used. itās 6x24 hour periods. loads of people still think they have to knock it on the head after the 6th card.
if you start at 6am monday, finish at 6pm, then start at 3am, finish 3pm, start at midnight, etc etc.
then you could probably use 7/8/or 9 cards. but you wonāt be breaking the law as long as you donāt do more than 6x24 hour periods, and you canāt drive more than 56 hours.