davepenn54:
I’ve found this thread very difficult to follow as once again ‘carryfast’ has taken it to a whole new level of bizarre thinking. CF you sound like the driver that every company seems to employ for a short period of time, knows everything but in reality knows nothing and usually leaves a real mess behind them when they’ve moved on to something better . From what I can understand from your post’s you have done a very short time on general haulage work and couldn’t hack it because the gaffer didn’t want to do it your way but after you did one he wanted you back obviously that company is now out of the game because you chose not to go back and sort the job out for him.
i’ve got a feeling that switchlogic has got a bit of time on his hands at the moment, maybe parked up having a quick 24, coz that is what working on Euro general can sometimes demand which is why you carryfast and most of your comments and post’s will never be taken seriously, because you have never done it and now you never will. In my time in the traffic office it was a well known rule that you never tried to change a trunk driver onto the general side because there was a reason fella’s could make it on trunk but not on general General drivers needed a bit of nouse to get the job done Trunk drivers where usually the one’s on the phone when the interior light wasn’t working and they’d lost their pen to fill out the logbook/tacho What should they do CF you remind me so much of my time in the traffic office, a trunk driver who knows everything but in reality knows nothing
Regards
Dave Penn;
That doesn’t explain though how it was that a general operator asked me to go back after I’d told him to shove his stupid ideas on long hours and the load gets there when it gets there.Probably because he realised that I was talking sense after all.
OK Mr CF who was this mysterious ‘General Operator’ that wanted you to go back and why, even if you didn’t go back, did the operator take up your way of doing the job I am really interested to find out if any of the numerous general haulage firms you have been acquainted with are still around and if they are still employing the same cohort of drivers that they had then.
I think that if it was me with so much insight and knowledge of the general haulage game I would have been putting this together into some kind of training package (DCPC) to sell to hauliers at a reasonable price.
Aw come on carryfast don’t tell me you haven’t thought of that one
Regards
Dave Penn;
I think that it just came down to the fact that there’s probably a lot more drivers who share my views of mixing 15 hour days and driving trucks than he realised.
No fella, think your talking ■■■■■■■■ as usual, so I’m off to bed as me and my lad have to be up early as we are off to the last day of the CV Show to see if I can pick up a bargain on a new 7.5 tonner. Maybe I’ll bring you in as a consultant when my fleet reaches 2.
kr79:
As the vast majority of freight movement is under 100 miles 55 to 65 don’t make lots of difference. And how much road freightvhas transferred to rail some yes but there are still loads of trucks doing long distance.
Whatever the differences where’s the problem with raising the limit to 65 mph for those that could make use of it and where’s the logic in having a 9-10 hour driving limit but it’s ok to still be driving up to 15 hours after starting work for the day.
It’s the usual story though if everything was different you would be right. Its like saying if my wife was a man I’d be gay.
kr79:
As the vast majority of freight movement is under 100 miles 55 to 65 don’t make lots of difference. And how much road freightvhas transferred to rail some yes but there are still loads of trucks doing long distance.
Whatever the differences where’s the problem with raising the limit to 65 mph for those that could make use of it and where’s the logic in having a 9-10 hour driving limit but it’s ok to still be driving up to 15 hours after starting work for the day.
It’s the usual story though if everything was different you would be right. Its like saying if my wife was a man I’d be gay.
kr79:
As the vast majority of freight movement is under 100 miles 55 to 65 don’t make lots of difference. And how much road freightvhas transferred to rail some yes but there are still loads of trucks doing long distance.
Whatever the differences where’s the problem with raising the limit to 65 mph for those that could make use of it and where’s the logic in having a 9-10 hour driving limit but it’s ok to still be driving up to 15 hours after starting work for the day.
It’s the usual story though if everything was different you would be right. Its like saying if my wife was a man I’d be gay.
When I was night trunking to Heathrow and back, sometimes I’d be leaving Heathrow with 4hrs to get back to Manchester at the end of my 15hr shift, this meant I couldn’t stop for a ■■■■ or a coffee or a power nap.
I know we need regulations because companies WILL take the ■■■■, but it should be more forgivable for drivers to extend / break the rules now and then, especially at the end of the week to get home
When I was night trunking to Heathrow and back, sometimes I’d be leaving Heathrow with 4hrs to get back to Manchester at the end of my 15hr shift, this meant I couldn’t stop for a ■■■■ or a coffee or a power nap.
I know we need regulations because companies WILL take the ■■■■, but it should be more forgivable for drivers to extend / break the rules now and then, especially at the end of the week to get home
But the rules already allow you to extend your shift to 15 hrs 3 times between weekly rests and extend your driving to 10 hrs twice, what do you want now? extend the week to eight days? extend a day to 30 hrs?
When I was night trunking to Heathrow and back, sometimes I’d be leaving Heathrow with 4hrs to get back to Manchester at the end of my 15hr shift, this meant I couldn’t stop for a ■■■■ or a coffee or a power nap.
I know we need regulations because companies WILL take the ■■■■, but it should be more forgivable for drivers to extend / break the rules now and then, especially at the end of the week to get home
But the rules already allow you to extend your shift to 15 hrs 3 times between weekly rests and extend your driving to 10 hrs twice, what do you want now? extend the week to eight days? extend a day to 30 hrs?
Just that after travelling from Manchester, around Heathrow, delayed at Horse-shoe, then running back on the limiter, it’d be nice to stop for a 15min power nap and a ■■■■ without worrying too much.
Doesn’t affect me anymore, the job was killing me, so now I don’t do nights.
When I was night trunking to Heathrow and back, sometimes I’d be leaving Heathrow with 4hrs to get back to Manchester at the end of my 15hr shift, this meant I couldn’t stop for a ■■■■ or a coffee or a power nap.
I know we need regulations because companies WILL take the ■■■■, but it should be more forgivable for drivers to extend / break the rules now and then, especially at the end of the week to get home
But the rules already allow you to extend your shift to 15 hrs 3 times between weekly rests and extend your driving to 10 hrs twice, what do you want now? extend the week to eight days? extend a day to 30 hrs?
Just that after travelling from Manchester, around Heathrow, delayed at Horse-shoe, then running back on the limiter, it’d be nice to stop for a 15min power nap and a ■■■■ without worrying too much.
Doesn’t affect me anymore, the job was killing me, so now I don’t do nights.
Maybe it was killing you because a 15 hour shift isn’t exactly a ‘night trunk’.That post says everything about the point that I’ve been making.
When I was night trunking to Heathrow and back, sometimes I’d be leaving Heathrow with 4hrs to get back to Manchester at the end of my 15hr shift, this meant I couldn’t stop for a ■■■■ or a coffee or a power nap.
I know we need regulations because companies WILL take the ■■■■, but it should be more forgivable for drivers to extend / break the rules now and then, especially at the end of the week to get home
But the rules already allow you to extend your shift to 15 hrs 3 times between weekly rests and extend your driving to 10 hrs twice, what do you want now? extend the week to eight days? extend a day to 30 hrs?
Just that after travelling from Manchester, around Heathrow, delayed at Horse-shoe, then running back on the limiter, it’d be nice to stop for a 15min power nap and a ■■■■ without worrying too much.
Doesn’t affect me anymore, the job was killing me, so now I don’t do nights.
Maybe it was killing you because a 15 hour shift isn’t exactly a ‘night trunk’.That post says everything about the point that I’ve been making.
15 hr shifts are part of the job if you dont like it go and work in ASDA or something CF and stop bloody moaning here
When I was night trunking to Heathrow and back, sometimes I’d be leaving Heathrow with 4hrs to get back to Manchester at the end of my 15hr shift, this meant I couldn’t stop for a ■■■■ or a coffee or a power nap.
I know we need regulations because companies WILL take the ■■■■, but it should be more forgivable for drivers to extend / break the rules now and then, especially at the end of the week to get home
But the rules already allow you to extend your shift to 15 hrs 3 times between weekly rests and extend your driving to 10 hrs twice, what do you want now? extend the week to eight days? extend a day to 30 hrs?
Just that after travelling from Manchester, around Heathrow, delayed at Horse-shoe, then running back on the limiter, it’d be nice to stop for a 15min power nap and a ■■■■ without worrying too much.
Doesn’t affect me anymore, the job was killing me, so now I don’t do nights.
Maybe it was killing you because a 15 hour shift isn’t exactly a ‘night trunk’.That post says everything about the point that I’ve been making.
15 hr shifts are part of the job if you dont like it go and work in ASDA or something CF and stop bloody moaning here
I haven’t been moaning about anything I’ve just been making a point about the risks of mixing 15 hour shifts with driving that’s all (together with the stupidity of the logic in having a 9-10 hour driving limit but you can drive during the last hours of a 15 hour shift) and it wasn’t me who gave up a job on nights because the job was ‘killing me’ .Not surprising considering that 15 hours would turn a night shift into part of a day one too.
. From what I can understand from your post’s you have done a very short time on general haulage work and couldn’t hack it because the gaffer didn’t want to do it your way but after you did one he wanted you back
obviously that company is now out of the game because you chose not to go back and sort the job out for him.
General drivers needed a bit of nouse to get the job done
Trunk drivers where usually the one’s on the phone when the interior light wasn’t working and they’d lost their pen to fill out the logbook/tacho
CF you remind me so much of my time in the traffic office, a trunk driver who knows everything but in reality knows nothing
to sell to hauliers at a reasonable price.
.Not surprising considering that 15 hours would turn a night shift into part of a day one too.