Yeah Carryfast, you intellectually challenged senior birth canal.
I’ve found this thread very difficult to follow as once again ‘carryfast’ has taken it to a whole new level of bizarre thinking. CF you sound like the driver that every company seems to employ for a short period of time, knows everything but in reality knows nothing and usually leaves a real mess behind them when they’ve moved on to something better 
. From what I can understand from your post’s you have done a very short time on general haulage work and couldn’t hack it because the gaffer didn’t want to do it your way but after you did one he wanted you back 
obviously that company is now out of the game because you chose not to go back and sort the job out for him.
i’ve got a feeling that switchlogic has got a bit of time on his hands at the moment, maybe parked up having a quick 24, coz that is what working on Euro general can sometimes demand which is why you carryfast and most of your comments and post’s will never be taken seriously, because you have never done it and now you never will. In my time in the traffic office it was a well known rule that you never tried to change a trunk driver onto the general side because there was a reason fella’s could make it on trunk but not on general 
General drivers needed a bit of nouse to get the job done 
Trunk drivers where usually the one’s on the phone when the interior light wasn’t working and they’d lost their pen to fill out the logbook/tacho What should they do 
CF you remind me so much of my time in the traffic office, a trunk driver who knows everything but in reality knows nothing
Regards
Dave Penn;
Carryfast:
taffytrucker:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Your not the first person who has asked that question on here lol
On carryfasts night trunk it may have been possible to streamline the operation to a bus like time table as its the same everyday.
But any of us with an idea of more varied work knows its not that easy.
Who here hasn’t had a day where we get caught up in a tailback on the motorway get to some industrial estate aimlessly looking for a place for half hour then when you get there be told sorry mate we are going to lunch be back in an hour. Get loaded except for one pallet that is due in anytime now. This turns up an hour later you drive out to get pulled by vosa. Next thing you know you have done a ten hour day but only 5 hours driving.
That’s why you need the flexibility of the 15 hour day that’s the real world not carryfasts it’s 220 miles away so it takes 4 hours to get there.There has to be a point where so much time has been lost during the day through ‘other work’ and delays etc where that time can no longer just be added to the existing schedule without creating an extra fatigue risk.In which case my idea of knowing when to park up instead of just adding it to the day might just prevent the type of accident where someone’s luck runs out in trying to keep mixing driving with working 15 hour days.
Its called general haulage not a nice simple night trunk up the road to a nice waiting trailer to be hitched up…
I don’t think they’ll accept that as an excuse when the inevitable result of mixing 15 hour days with driving happens to someone who’s luck eventually runs out.
I know a lot of drivers that come a wednesday they are on their 3rd 15 of the week and they have no problems with it maybe the odd lightweight cant handle a proper job where you gotta think on your feet and get to drop offs by a certain time or face an even longer wait!!!
Not on a 24 but I have had a lot of unexpected delays this week hence the prolific posting rate!
I think you will find the majority of road haulage movements in Europe are less than 100 miles that’s life. I think you will find rail freight makes up a small proportion of all movements.
I personally think carryfasts utopia of the 70s where every lorry driver drive 1000 miles a day never realy existed. There was guys plodding round round the uk in a clapped out flatbed aec roping and sheeting dealing with militant dockers. Someone in a nice 110 scania going over the alps then sitting in Italian customs until he worked out how much of a bribe the customs wanted. And one of the lucky few driving to the middle east half way up a Turkish mountain trying to attach snow chains in a blizzard.
That’s a lorry drivers life alwYs has always will be.
Why do we put up with it. When the suns shining you have your favourite tunes on the scenery is good you forget all the crap and it’s the best jOb ever.
switchlogic:
You make it sound as if people are crashing all over the place because of 15 hour days. I said it before I’ll say it again some of us have a bit more stamina than you Carryfast. Just because your a bit frail and feeble doesn’t mean we should all suffer.
Think I’d be more knackered on his method than the current one. 11hrs driving is a long time to concentrate, doing a 10 is bad enough some days
kr79:
I think you will find the majority of road haulage movements in Europe are less than 100 miles that’s life. I think you will find rail freight makes up a small proportion of all movements.
I personally think carryfasts utopia of the 70s where every lorry driver drive 1000 miles a day never realy existed. There was guys plodding round round the uk in a clapped out flatbed aec roping and sheeting dealing with militant dockers. Someone in a nice 110 scania going over the alps then sitting in Italian customs until he worked out how much of a bribe the customs wanted. And one of the lucky few driving to the middle east half way up a Turkish mountain trying to attach snow chains in a blizzard.
That’s a lorry drivers life alwYs has always will be.
Why do we put up with it. When the suns shining you have your favourite tunes on the scenery is good you forget all the crap and it’s the best jOb ever.
+1 For the Londoner giving it straight, go on my son 
Well Luke it had to be something like that for you to get into this long drawn out tosh from carryfast It’s took me all week to put a reply together. Maybe because I was never a trunk driver and my brain is now like swiss cheese coz of all them 15/24/36/48 hr days I did for Duke’s. 
And I loved nearly every minute of it
Regards
Dave Penn;
kr79:
I think you will find the majority of road haulage movements in Europe are less than 100 miles that’s life. I think you will find rail freight makes up a small proportion of all movements.
I personally think carryfasts utopia of the 70s where every lorry driver drive 1000 miles a day never realy existed. There was guys plodding round round the uk in a clapped out flatbed aec roping and sheeting dealing with militant dockers. Someone in a nice 110 scania going over the alps then sitting in Italian customs until he worked out how much of a bribe the customs wanted. And one of the lucky few driving to the middle east half way up a Turkish mountain trying to attach snow chains in a blizzard.
That’s a lorry drivers life alwYs has always will be.
Why do we put up with it. When the suns shining you have your favourite tunes on the scenery is good you forget all the crap and it’s the best jOb ever.
That’s about the truth of it KR It never was, is or will be what he imagines as he daydreams of Convoy on his night trunk
billybigrig:
kr79:
I think you will find the majority of road haulage movements in Europe are less than 100 miles that’s life. I think you will find rail freight makes up a small proportion of all movements.
I personally think carryfasts utopia of the 70s where every lorry driver drive 1000 miles a day never realy existed. There was guys plodding round round the uk in a clapped out flatbed aec roping and sheeting dealing with militant dockers. Someone in a nice 110 scania going over the alps then sitting in Italian customs until he worked out how much of a bribe the customs wanted. And one of the lucky few driving to the middle east half way up a Turkish mountain trying to attach snow chains in a blizzard.
That’s a lorry drivers life alwYs has always will be.
Why do we put up with it. When the suns shining you have your favourite tunes on the scenery is good you forget all the crap and it’s the best jOb ever.That’s about the truth of it KR
easiest run I had was from swansea to Mechalan in Belguim to drop off at the frieght rail terminal tip and reload same place 
billybigrig:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
I’d be interested to know that if a company ran trucks drinking diesel like its going out of fashion running at 65 and populated by the likes of Carryfast wether it would go bust because of the cost of fuel or loss of work due to the bad attitude of its drivers who never get anywhere on time. You sound like a nightmare employee Carry.As far as I remember it was the eu tossers who imposed the 55 mph limit and speed limiters on the guvnors not the guvnors who asked for it.It was also the US guvnors who asked the US government to raise the federal 55 mph limit of the 1970’s so that they could get more work done and to help the drivers to stay awake instead of driving into ditches and each other while plodding around the country at that speed.If what you’re saying is right it would have been the guvnors here who limited their own wagons to 55 mph long before the eu imposed it on them and the US govnors would be shouting for the return of the federal 55 mph limit.
However it’s not surprising that you’re only able to see it all from the perspective of doing the type of work that’s left after the east europeans have cherry picked all the longer runs where my idea really would blow yours out of the water and then some.
Oh christ now we’re back on the good ole U.S. of A… Crazynuts the 55 limit was brought in why ■■ It was due to the shortage of oil and thus fuel. ■■■■■■■ back down to 55mph uses less fuel. Most big U.S. fleets are limiting there motors right down on speed and in some fleets power too. Why ■■ because the cost of fuel used at speed is greater than the commercial advantage gained by covering the miles and their diesel is still a lot cheaper than ours
I lived and worked out there and we still own a house out there, how about you ■■? Still do feel free to try and tell me all about things over there from your vast pool of knowledge and experience
In your expert opinion exactly why the zb was it then that they ever bothered to get the 55 limit raised instead of just leaving the thing where it was to start with .But as for ‘most’ US fleets limiting their motors right down back to that speed.Yeah right.
If the commercial advantage of plodding all over the place at 55 mph is so great then how was it that it was the eu that imposed limiters set at that speed not the British operators.
However ‘if’ you’re right then there would obviously be no objections from any operators who want to stay at 55 mph to save fuel assuming that the limit was raised to 65 mph to at least provide the option for those who know better. 
taffytrucker:
Carryfast:
taffytrucker:
Carryfast:
kr79:
Your not the first person who has asked that question on here lol
On carryfasts night trunk it may have been possible to streamline the operation to a bus like time table as its the same everyday.
But any of us with an idea of more varied work knows its not that easy.
Who here hasn’t had a day where we get caught up in a tailback on the motorway get to some industrial estate aimlessly looking for a place for half hour then when you get there be told sorry mate we are going to lunch be back in an hour. Get loaded except for one pallet that is due in anytime now. This turns up an hour later you drive out to get pulled by vosa. Next thing you know you have done a ten hour day but only 5 hours driving.
That’s why you need the flexibility of the 15 hour day that’s the real world not carryfasts it’s 220 miles away so it takes 4 hours to get there.There has to be a point where so much time has been lost during the day through ‘other work’ and delays etc where that time can no longer just be added to the existing schedule without creating an extra fatigue risk.In which case my idea of knowing when to park up instead of just adding it to the day might just prevent the type of accident where someone’s luck runs out in trying to keep mixing driving with working 15 hour days.
Its called general haulage not a nice simple night trunk up the road to a nice waiting trailer to be hitched up…
I don’t think they’ll accept that as an excuse when the inevitable result of mixing 15 hour days with driving happens to someone who’s luck eventually runs out.
I know a lot of drivers that come a wednesday they are on their 3rd 15 of the week and they have no problems with it maybe the odd lightweight cant handle a proper job where you gotta think on your feet and get to drop offs by a certain time or face an even longer wait!!!
Don’t think you read my previous reply to that idea.
How comes so many hauliers are downrating to 50 52 then.
Thing your missing Carryfast and you’d know this if you had anything to do with transport is that despite the limiter law being set at 90 a huge amount of fleets now run at 85 or even less. My truck was turned down to 84 to save fuel.
davepenn54:
I’ve found this thread very difficult to follow as once again ‘carryfast’ has taken it to a whole new level of bizarre thinking. CF you sound like the driver that every company seems to employ for a short period of time, knows everything but in reality knows nothing and usually leaves a real mess behind them when they’ve moved on to something betteri’ve got a feeling that switchlogic has got a bit of time on his hands at the moment, maybe parked up having a quick 24, coz that is what working on Euro general can sometimes demand which is why you carryfast and most of your comments and post’s will never be taken seriously, because you have never done it and now you never will. In my time in the traffic office it was a well known rule that you never tried to change a trunk driver onto the general side because there was a reason fella’s could make it on trunk but not on general
Regards
Dave Penn;
That doesn’t explain though how it was that a general operator asked me to go back after I’d told him to shove his stupid ideas on long hours and the load gets there when it gets there.Probably because he realised that I was talking sense after all.
switchlogic:
Thing your missing Carryfast and you’d know this if you had anything to do with transport is that despite the limiter law being set at 90 a huge amount of fleets now run at 85 or even less. My truck was turned down to 84 to save fuel.
I was driving wagons limited to 85 kmh in the 1990’s.
The point I’m making Carryfast old bean that is if they had the choice of your way of doing things they wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole. Lots of extra expense for little, and in most instances no, gain, or even a loss of productivity in many cases.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Thing your missing Carryfast and you’d know this if you had anything to do with transport is that despite the limiter law being set at 90 a huge amount of fleets now run at 85 or even less. My truck was turned down to 84 to save fuel.I was driving wagons limited to 85 kmh in the 1990’s.
Ok so what the hell are you on about then?
Carryfast the man who could have saved the UK haulage industry. Shame you never put your money where your mouth is we could come on here and slated carry fast trucks and trailers instead of Stobart
Carryfast:
Probably because he realised that I was talking sense after all.
Lots of other reasons would pop into my head first, bad employer, bad payer, nobody wanted to work there, driver shortage. Pick one of them because it sure as hell wasnt that one