Hi, I had a call earlier today from a company offering work
some of which included double shifted 15 hour trunking.
how does this work and how many days a week are you allowed to do?
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.
Depends on how many hours of work you do also driving hours also comes into it. You would have to do a lot of poa and break to do 3 x 15 and 3 x 13 in a week.
Ask Ady1 he managed 83.5 hours in 6 shifts, half hour short of the maximum allowed.
Fileep:
Ask Ady1 he managed 83.5 hours in 6 shifts, half hour short of the maximum allowed.
That’s sound if you’re paid by the hour but I’m salaried for average 48 hrs.
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.
You can do 6 x 15 hr shifts if you want, as long as you take a minimum 3hr rest period during your shift 
It’s called split shift
Davey Driver:
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.You can do 6 x 15 hr shifts if you want, as long as you take a minimum 3hr rest period during your shift
Which would make sense if you have a three hour turnaround at the hub. Drop trailer, park up, break. Pickup trailer.
Davey Driver:
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.You can do 6 x 15 hr shifts if you want, as long as you take a minimum 3hr rest period during your shift
i thought the 16 hour split shifts had been done away with ■■?
dave:
Davey Driver:
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.You can do 6 x 15 hr shifts if you want, as long as you take a minimum 3hr rest period during your shift
i thought the 16 hour split shifts had been done away with ■■?
they have
the new split shift rule is 3 hour break en-bloc and max 15 hours, as opposed to the previous 4x1 hours(min) and 16 hours
glencarron:
Hi, I had a call earlier today from a company offering work
some of which included double shifted 15 hour trunking.how does this work and how many days a week are you allowed to do?
do you mean double shifted or double manned?
they are totally seperate things
doble manned is two drivers in the samne truck at the same time, driver one drives for 4 1/2 hours, driver 2 on rest, then change over, driver 2 becomes driver 1 for the tacho and drives for 4 1/2 hours
must remember to swap the tacho’s over when you swap driving
If you mean double manned you can do that 6 days a week and you won’t even come close to the WTD 48 hour limit if you are sharing the driving as you will rack up some serious break time each shift. I would think the main reason for double manning for a 15 hour shift is that it’s mostly driving so you could end up with about 7 hours driving and getting on for 8 hours break in the shift.
Davey Driver:
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.You can do 6 x 15 hr shifts if you want, as long as you take a minimum 3hr rest period during your shift
i do it without split rests
fri-15 hrs
sat-15 hrs
sun -15 hrs
mon-15 hrs
tues-15 hrs
wed-15 hrs
there not all dead 15 hrs but the eq of 15 hrs i.e 14 hrs,13.5 hrs, fri,sat,sun are classed as a different week to mon,tues,wed so im doing 3x15 in week one and 3x15 in week two, but obviously when i come back in fri/sat ive no 15 hrs left untill midnight sunday ,unless i do splits.
the bloke who checks our time books is having kittens with me 
,recons what im doing is illegal 
,but he cant explain,doesnt understand why im not getting any infringements 
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now wait for coffee to rip it all to shreds
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.
which is what our bloke who doesb our time books says,3x15 hrs,3x 13 hrs, you cant do more,thats the maxium, but hes 
as to why im not getting infringements,but while hes ,and im not getting any infringements im going to cane it 
bald bloke:
Depends on how many hours of work you do also driving hours also comes into it. You would have to do a lot of poa and break to do 3 x 15 and 3 x 13 in a week.
i do it and have never used any p.o.a whats so ever,break, rest ,other work
ady1:
Davey Driver:
gogzy:
can do 3 x15 and 2x13s over 5 days, i think if your doin 6 days a week you can do 3x15 and 3x13.You can do 6 x 15 hr shifts if you want, as long as you take a minimum 3hr rest period during your shift
i do it without split rests
fri-15 hrs
sat-15 hrs
sun -15 hrs
mon-15 hrs
tues-15 hrs
wed-15 hrs
there not all dead 15 hrs but the eq of 15 hrs i.e 14 hrs,13.5 hrs, fri,sat,sun are classed as a different week to mon,tues,wed so im doing 3x15 in week one and 3x15 in week two, but obviously when i come back in fri/sat ive no 15 hrs left untill midnight sunday ,unless i do splits.
the bloke who checks our time books is having kittens with me
You might be illegal. You can reduce your rest three times between weekly rest periods and not three times per week. 3x15’s Mon - Weds followed by a weekly rest then 3x15’s Fri - Sun is legal so no infringement for that.
However if you do 6x15’s Fri - Weds that should be getting picked up. If you never do that then this bit.
i do it without split rests
isn’t true and explains why no infringements.
I don’t think you are doing 6x15’s Fri - Weds as you say:
but obviously when i come back in fri/sat ive no 15 hrs left untill midnight sunday ,unless i do splits.
So it seems you are doing 3x15’s Mon- Weds then not doing any Fri, Sat or Sun, even though you could as you have completed a weekly rest. Only in certain weeks are you doing 3x15’s Mon - Weds, weekly rest, 3x15’s Fri - Sun which is legal.
No they are not, the week runs from 00:00 Monday until 24:00 Sunday so all those days are in the same week
From when you resume work after one weekly rest period you can do a shift of more than 13 hours three times, the remaining shifts must be no more than 13 hours, before you start the next weekly rest period and what days are in what calendar week has no bearing on that.
You are very confused about the rules as first you incorrectly say Fri, Sat and Sun are a different week to Mon, Tues and Weds but then you say you can’t do any more 15’s until after midnight Sunday, which implies you know that is when a new week starts.
Digressing slightly, how many hours can you drive in a 24 hour period?
No wonder your bloke is having kittens, you can only do three 9 hour breaks between 2 weekly rest periods, unless you split break. You can’t do 5 or 6 short reduced rests on the bounce and be legal. Simples 
waddy640:
Digressing slightly, how many hours can you drive in a 24 hour period?
That isn’t defined by the regulations, you are only limited by how many driving hours you can fit in while still meeting the break and rest requirements.
Taken to the limit you could start work at midnight and do 9 hour driving with a 45 minute break, finishing at 09:45. You could then take 9 hours daily rest and resume work at 18:45, drive 4.5 hours then take a 45 minute break. That would take you back to Midnight and you will have legally done 13.5 hours driving in 24 hours, however the lack of other work for vehicle checks would be frowned upon but even taking 15 minutes at the start of each shift you would still have driven 13 hours in 24.
The daily driving limit of 9 hours, extended to 10 hours twice per week, is the amount of driving allowed between the end of one rest period and the start of the next and is nothing to do with the 24 hour day.
waddy640:
Digressing slightly, how many hours can you drive in a 24 hour period?
9 extended to 10 twice a week. And don’t listen to adygreen1, if a stobart driver said he could drive 20 hrs he’d belive it