miggs2269:
I am a new class C driver,working for an agency to gain experiance.Last night at a delivery i was told, it would be at least 4 hours before they could unload me.I parked up and put tacho on POA,and informed the office.I was told to sit it out,as i could not reload till empty.After 3 hours and 5 mins i was askrd to go on a bay and hand keys in.My transport office told me,as i had 3 hours POA i could work up to 18 in total !!
Last nite i booked 9.5 hours driving and a total shift time of 17.25 hours.Am i being taken advantage of,as a new driver.Is it 15 hours total shift time,or does POA extend this ? Many Thanks
This has actually made me really angry, its not fair at all that
I am a new class C driver,working for an agency to gain experiance.Last night at a delivery i was told, it would be at least 4 hours before they could unload me.I parked up and put tacho on POA,and informed the office.I was told to sit it out,as i could not reload till empty.After 3 hours and 5 mins i was askrd to go on a bay and hand keys in.My transport office told me,as i had 3 hours POA i could work up to 18 in total !!
Last nite i booked 9.5 hours driving and a total shift time of 17.25 hours.Am i being taken advantage of,as a new driver.Is it 15 hours total shift time,or does POA extend this ? Many Thanks
Yep they’ve took advantage mate, if you had of put it on break instead you could of done 15 and got a full daily rest in. I wouldn’t trust a thing they said in future
miggs2269:
I am a new class C driver,working for an agency to gain experiance.Last night at a delivery i was told, it would be at least 4 hours before they could unload me.I parked up and put tacho on POA,and informed the office.I was told to sit it out,as i could not reload till empty.After 3 hours and 5 mins i was askrd to go on a bay and hand keys in.My transport office told me,as i had 3 hours POA i could work up to 18 in total !!
Last nite i booked 9.5 hours driving and a total shift time of 17.25 hours.Am i being taken advantage of,as a new driver.Is it 15 hours total shift time,or does POA extend this ? Many Thanks
The person in the transport office who told you that should be sacked
Under no normal circumstances are you allowed to go over 15 hours from the start of shift, you did a total of 17.25 hours from start to finish of shift so you had only 6 3/4 hours daily rest.
Sorry but if you get stopped you will likely get fined for insufficient daily rest.
Did you get the company to sign a time sheet for the 17.25 hours work ?
If not don’t mention that it was illegal until you’ve got them to sign a time-sheet
This is a prime example of why drivers should learn the regulations and that applies especially to agency drivers.
You will find that this place should be a help for you in learning the regulations, I would however recommend putting questions on the regulations in this forum
miggs2269:
I am a new class C driver,working for an agency to gain experiance.Last night at a delivery i was told, it would be at least 4 hours before they could unload me.I parked up and put tacho on POA,and informed the office.I was told to sit it out,as i could not reload till empty.After 3 hours and 5 mins i was askrd to go on a bay and hand keys in.My transport office told me,as i had 3 hours POA i could work up to 18 in total !!
Last nite i booked 9.5 hours driving and a total shift time of 17.25 hours.Am i being taken advantage of,as a new driver.Is it 15 hours total shift time,or does POA extend this ? Many Thanks
They screwed you but nothing you can do about that now. Just hope you don’t get stopped or a big fine could be coming your way.
Don’t think in terms of shift time, that’s what causes confusion as the regulations do not mention a limit for the shift anywhere.
It’s all about the amount of rest in the 24-hour period, which begins when you start work, and that is 11 hours.
Start work at 06:00 and by 06:00 the next day you must have had a period of 11 hours rest. That means you can’t work more than 13 hours, 24 - 11 = 13.
Three times between your weekly rest periods you can reduce those 11 hours down to a minimum of 9 hours so start work at 06:00 and by 06:00 the next day you must have had a period of 9 hours rest. That means you can’t work more than 15 hours, 24 - 9 = 15.
Nothing in the regulations, POA or anything else, can reduce that rest to less than 9 hours.
Learn and stick to the daily rest requirements and the rest (no pun intended) will fall into place and you will be able to tell idiots like the guy in the office to do one.
There are a couple of tweaks to the rest requirements involving ferries but as a newbie it’s best to get the basics right first .
POA, is included within the 15 hours because you are available to work not resting … next time you hit 14 hrs 59 mins tell them to get a driver to get vehicle or take a night out …
discoman:
POA, is included within the 15 hours because you are available to work not resting … next time you hit 14 hrs 59 mins tell them to get a driver to get vehicle or take a night out …
Only if you want to be left stuck where you are. If you want to get home you need to be sorting it a good while before 14 hours and 59 minutes.
the problem with lgv driving is the clowns you are taking orders off dont give a dam for rules and regs drivers have to conform to you better hope you dont get stopped by vosa in the next 2 years or you will be looking at a fine of around £11.000 sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the goverment are screwing the hell out of drivers for tacho infingments
swellbelly:
the problem with lgv driving is the clowns you are taking orders off dont give a dam for rules and regs drivers have to conform to you better hope you dont get stopped by vosa in the next 2 years or you will be looking at a fine of around £11.000 sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the goverment are screwing the hell out of drivers for tacho infingments
Thanks for the laugh, the biggest problem with LGV driving is people who don’t know what they’re talking about posting crap like that
Insufficient daily rest, insufficient by over 2 hours and current = £200 fixed penalty.
swellbelly:
the problem with lgv driving is the clowns you are taking orders off dont give a dam for rules and regs drivers have to conform to you better hope you dont get stopped by vosa in the next 2 years or you will be looking at a fine of around £11.000 sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the goverment are screwing the hell out of drivers for tacho infingments
Statute bar on driver’s hours offences is 6 months but don’t let the facts get in the way of the bullcrap.
There’s a Facebook page you would really enjoy, lots of crap like that on it.
tachograph:
This is a prime example of why drivers should learn the regulations and that applies especially to agency drivers.
Its also a prime example of the inept EU beaurocrats who introduce an initial dcpc without a compulsory test on the regulations
I don’t know too much about the Initial DCPC (for “not much” read nothing ) but yes I would have thought that the “drivers hours and tachograph rules” should probably be a part of it.
If this dosnt work go to vosa site and put in search staying legal this will take you to the saftey and maintenance leaflets and you can click on it from there
