macplaxton:
mickyblue:£30 a month? Robbing b’stards! I used to pay 90 quid in 2007 to insure a 250cc Honda motorcycle.
£118 fully comp for a 937cc Suzuki RF900, rarely used for work though
macplaxton:
mickyblue:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0ZAPemfDY
£30 a month? Robbing b’stards! I used to pay 90 quid in 2007 to insure a 250cc Honda motorcycle.
LMFAO
I wrote on here in a thread last week, that people would not be able to afford to go to work.
Unfortunately, It comes as no surprise.
We are at, or very close to the tipping point, where people will start to protest strongly, or give up through apathy. It is a shame that we cannot be more organised and stand united, with the current forms of communication, the one last thing needed that would enable us to stand together is trust, unfortunately we have allowed this to be eroded, by the examples shown to us by our supposed leaders 
I have taken measures for when the day of reckoning comes, because it is not too far away, especially if Greece falls, because that will have a domino effect. It will be a free for all, anarchy will reign for a period of time.
We certainly live in interesting times and the whole Global market situation has not only allowed us to take advantage of certain situations, it has also left us wide open to the negative aspects of Globalisation.
I have a Diesel car.1.9 Seat Toledo. I put £40 Per week in the tank. That just about gets me to work every day, which is a 48 mile round trip, and to the supermarket once a week. I am on agency (when I get it) It just about beats the dole at the end of the week. But there’s no way I’m EVER gonna sign on.
Yeah but stand united & demand what exactly? If they reduce the tax on fuel which everyone seems to want the public ■■■■■ will have less money in it to pay for public services like the NHS, Police, Fire Brigade, Military and so on. They have to get the money from somewhere & rather han increase direct taxes they usually decide to put it on fuel.
As has been mentioned to the OP, either buy a scooter, cycle to work or move somewhere that he can get a better job.
Silver_Surfer:
Yeah but stand united & demand what exactly? If they reduce the tax on fuel which everyone seems to want the public ■■■■■ will have less money in it to pay for public services like the NHS, Police, Fire Brigade, Military and so on. They have to get the money from somewhere & rather han increase direct taxes they usually decide to put it on fuel.As has been mentioned to the OP, either buy a scooter, cycle to work or move somewhere that he can get a better job.
Thats what they want you to believe, so that you will adjust your lifestyle accordingly, heaven forfend that ‘they’ would have to make such drastic changes
You can lead a horse to water, but you can`t make it drink…Seems so bloody apt. for the British
att:
Silver_Surfer:
Yeah but stand united & demand what exactly? If they reduce the tax on fuel which everyone seems to want the public ■■■■■ will have less money in it to pay for public services like the NHS, Police, Fire Brigade, Military and so on. They have to get the money from somewhere & rather han increase direct taxes they usually decide to put it on fuel.As has been mentioned to the OP, either buy a scooter, cycle to work or move somewhere that he can get a better job.
Thats what they want you to believe, so that you will adjust your lifestyle accordingly, heaven forfend that ‘they’ would have to make such drastic changes
You can lead a horse to water, but you can`t make it drink…Seems so bloody apt. for the British
Quite so. It fails me why so few people can see that taxing the wealthy via income tax is a much fairer system. I think British people take that view that one day they might be rich (yeah, right) and so want a nice system to be in place to benefit them when the time comes. The reality is very different. The austerity measures (and more are on the way) only serve to make life harder for poorer people, that doesn’t mean the disabled or unemployed, it means you and me. No country has ever come out of recession via austerity measures, as Henry ford said, the unemployed and underpaid can’t buy my cars, the same rule applies everywhere. Its sickening when rich fatcats on £250,000 a year say that their firm can’t afford to take on an apprentice at £15,000 a year - take a pay cut you fat pig and give someone else a chance. Capitalism has become really ugly in recent years, its all greed and trampling on everyone else to get to the top. It may have begun with Thatcher as suggested above, but I was only a kid then so not sure…but either way, its still going on now, and the tories will only look after their financiers and their friends, not ordinary people like us.
Lets not forget that it was Labour that took us into this recession! In particular, Gordon Brown who was chancellor before he was PM.
I think that we must first, get away from party politics, it matters not which party is in control, they will all do the same to us, the only difference is the way in which they do it.
Once we have grasped that fact, then we can move forward.
They distract us with so many things, no matter who they are, our ‘beef’ must be with them, no matter which political party they belong to or represent.
att:
I think that we must first, get away from party politics, it matters not which party is in control, they will all do the same to us, the only difference is the way in which they do it.
Once we have grasped that fact, then we can move forward.
They distract us with so many things, no matter who they are, our ‘beef’ must be with them, no matter which political party they belong to or represent.
Indeed so. As I hinted at above, they have let the idea slip into the national consciousness that any one of us could be a millionaire, either by winning the lottery, or making it big in business. The fact that very, very few people ever achieve this besides a few tokens is forgotten. They take peoples minds off the game by bombarding us with images of pointless “celebrities”, trivia and diversion. A few years ago I stopped watching TV or reading newspapers, within a few weeks I started to see just how obvious it is that we are manipulated, and who was doing it…the media, government etc are just different heads of the same beast, and we are its dinner.
bubsy06:
BanburyDan:
The spiralling cost of electricity and gas is another issue that adds to the hardships we all face. The power companies make hundreds of millions in profit on what is not a luxury, but a necessity of life. No electric or gas = freeze to death for most people. IMHO anything that is necessary for life (electric, gas, water) should not be sold on a profit-making basis.The issue is not really the high cost of diesel in itself, its how the high cost of diesel leads to increase costs for every other single thing you buy!
Leccy and gas meters are easy to bypass
car fuel tanks are not so
Hiya i know a chap who made(and sold ) a thing that turned the leccy metre reading backwards…
one time he left it on to long so when the metre got read again it was less that the previous reading.
he did’nt pay another leccy bill for 3 years…he was in nick…true that was in 1979 when leccy was
also to expensive…but alot cheaper then todays leccy
John
3300John:
bubsy06:
BanburyDan:
The spiralling cost of electricity and gas is another issue that adds to the hardships we all face. The power companies make hundreds of millions in profit on what is not a luxury, but a necessity of life. No electric or gas = freeze to death for most people. IMHO anything that is necessary for life (electric, gas, water) should not be sold on a profit-making basis.The issue is not really the high cost of diesel in itself, its how the high cost of diesel leads to increase costs for every other single thing you buy!
Leccy and gas meters are easy to bypass
Hiya i know a chap who made(and sold ) a thing that turned the leccy metre reading backwards…
one time he left it on to long so when the metre got read again it was less that the previous reading.
he did’nt pay another leccy bill for 3 years…he was in nick…true that was in 1979 when leccy was
also to expensive…but alot cheaper then todays leccy
John
I used to work for a leccy company. They used to send us texts out saying how much profit they had made in the quarter, usually several hundred million. One day I wanted some new gloves or something, PPE anyway, which the company provided. “Oh we are going to have to cut back on how often you get new ppe, its costing too much”. That in spite of making hundreds of millions in profit. Its just greed, pure and simple…
"I didn’t understand then, (too young to understand), but I do now (well think so )…
I would think THATCHER started it, showed them how to do it!
Privatise everything - make them profit driven (greed).
Shut down all ‘heavy’ industries, the pits - steel etc and the links in them chains will follow…
Whichever government is in, they’re as bad as each other, they’re just destroying this country in their own little way!
We’re just paying for them to do it!"
totally agree the ■■■■■ destroyed britain and destroyed the families that the massive closures affected… some of these families are still affected years on… and where did it get britain? cameron is just thatcher in trousers, even folk have stopped listening and arguing with what the govt says as they know its a waste of time, cameron the other day said he would put police in nearly every A+E dept across the country, there probably isnt enough bobbies left to do this now but no one complained as we are just used to the crap that all politicians spout…
Last one explains what most people will do, Stand up for yourself and your fellow workers, stop being a statistic and stand up for what is right, But I know MOST of you here wont stand up for what is right so deserve this economic situation and deserve to be trodden on by big companies and government.
What you waiting for? The day you cannot feed yourself before you realise that change has to happen NOW
BanburyDan:
The spiralling cost of electricity and gas is another issue that adds to the hardships we all face. The power companies make hundreds of millions in profit on what is not a luxury, but a necessity of life. No electric or gas = freeze to death for most people. IMHO anything that is necessary for life (electric, gas, water) should not be sold on a profit-making basis.
but it’s not that simple though, is it? non profit making doesn’t mean cheaper, it might be, but it might not be. competition generally does. would you be happy to pay more so long as no profit was made?
the stumbling block is too many people can’t be bothered to keep an eye on the market and switch provider as soon as a cheaper one emerges 
a bloke i work with was winging when he found out another fella had bought his heating oil £x cheaper than him, i said “dave didn’t you ring around?” (probably 5 or 6 options in the area) “no, but i will do next time” he’s been buying heating oil for over 30 years quite possibly from the same supplier and i’d put money on him not ringing around next time. he started going on about loyalty etc he’s not the brightest.
Silver_Surfer:
As has been mentioned to the OP, either buy a scooter, cycle to work or move somewhere that he can get a better job.
spot on, what about a tramping job OP? you could travel over twice as far but only once a week and half your fuel bill.
stevie
Makes me laugh some folk on here talking about hardships. Those folk need to get a life, maybe think about moving to India or Africa and find out about real hardships, not self inflicted ones.
pavaroti:
Makes me laugh some folk on here talking about hardships.
I’m not talking hardships , and not self inflicted , its about the spiraling cost of living in the UK , I’ve been to India , a lot of how they live is a life style choice, yet the British government send them £800m in aid when their own government have a £3billion pound space programme !
pavaroti:
Makes me laugh some folk on here talking about hardships.
The finest thing i’ve ever seen you write.
Communism does not work as has been proven many times over.
Britain is one of the best places to live in the world in my opinion.
Labour did not take us in to this recession, the banks of the world did with irresponsible lending.
All this “them & us” business is a bit cringe worthy. Tax the rich and give it to the poor, we already have a 50% tax rate for high earners what do you want to do, tax them 80%? The entrepenuers wouldn’t get out of bed for that. 
kemaro:
pavaroti:
Makes me laugh some folk on here talking about hardships.I’m not talking hardships , and not self inflicted , its about the spiraling cost of living in the UK , I’ve been to India , a lot of how they live is a life style choice, yet the British government send them £800m in aid when their own government have a £3billion pound space programme !
That’s just a back hander to keep them buying our shiny jet fighters.
when the defecit was announced there was programme on radio that i was listening too, money box i think but not sure, anyway there was a guy on there, a prof of buisness studies or economics he had worked out that if everyone gave up 1 weeks wage then there would be enough to clear the defecit and possibly a surplus. he had spoken to politicians who simply ignored it, he had gone around the streets asking folk if they would give up 1 weeks wage, and also gone into buisnesses/banks football grounds out of all the types of folk he questioned it was the lower paid that agreed that they would, buisness guys came up with excuses and and bankers and footballers would,nt even entertain it,
stop giving money away,Iknow its good causes but things like red nose day/ comic relief ect year after year we break the record for how much money given and yet we are all claiming to be skint? day after day old people who have paid their taxes in this country are being maltreated left alone to die, yet we can put millions into the hands of another countries leaders? but not into sorting our own out…