9h 36m plus any driving done during the 8 minute movement.
Wheel Nut:
and driver must be tucked up before 01.00
In this case, because he started at 12:00, he would have to be parked up before 01:00. 01:00 would only leave enough time for the 11-hour rest and no time for the one movement he required. 00:52 would do it in this case as that would be 12 hours 52 minutes duty, 8 minutes movement and 11 hours rest which all adds up to a perfect 24 hours.
Wheel Nut:
I would say you count the 8 minutes movement on Monday.
The Monday shift won’t start until he drives off the ferry, so it isn’t part of Monday. It’s all part of Sunday. If you do more than about 12.5 hours travelling to the port you wouldn’t be able to make the movements because the time from starting work to beginning the first part of the rest, the two movements and 11 hours rest must all fit into the 24-hour period which began when you started work on that day. The fact you are allowed to split the rest doesn’t remove other rest requirements, such as the 24-hour period thing, so the days work plus the two movements must not total more then 13 hours and the movements are therefore part of the first day.
would that not make the 8 mins movement illegal as he gone over the 15 hour duty
No it would not be illegal as he is using the interrupted rest option. If you’ve done 15 hours duty you cannot use the interrupted rest option as there must be 11 hours of rest in total and 15+11=26.
delboytwo:
so what your saying is that you must be at the docks with time to spare for any movements
Correct.
delboytwo:
and in fact it must be an hour at least
Doesn’t have to be an hour as long as it covers the movement(s), in this case 8 minutes was enough.
delboytwo:
and you only do a 13 hour duty day including the movements
Correct, the time from starting work to arriving in the port and beginning the rest period plus the movement(s) must not total more than 13 hours, If it does there is not enough time to fit 11 hours rest into the 24-hour period.
9h 36m plus any driving done during the 8 minute movement.
Wheel Nut:
and driver must be tucked up before 01.00
In this case, because he started at 12:00, he would have to be parked up before 01:00. 01:00 would only leave enough time for the 11-hour rest and no time for the one movement he required. 00:52 would do it in this case as that would be 12 hours 52 minutes duty, 8 minutes movement and 11 hours rest which all adds up to a perfect 24 hours.
“Drat, drat, and double drat!”, “Triple drat!”, “Curses, foiled again!”. Muttley, do something!
delboytwo:
i the op how would coming of the ferry, work how would that be counted would that be the new days drive time
If you have completed your rest and starting work it would be the new day. If you are using the second allowed movement and parking up to complete your rest period than it is still part of the previous shift. Remember a 24-hour period begins on completion of a rest period, not partway through a daily rest period.
delboytwo:
i the op how would coming of the ferry, work how would that be counted would that be the new days drive time
If you have completed your rest and starting work it would be the new day. If you are using the second allowed movement and parking up to complete your rest period than it is still part of the previous shift. Remember a 24-hour period begins on completion of a rest period, not partway through a daily rest period.
Wheel Nut:
“Drat, drat, and double drat!”, “Triple drat!”, “Curses, foiled again!”. Muttley, do something!
It’s so much easier with you than ROG or Del. Although Del has seen the light in the last week or so and is getting most things correct. ROG meanwhile is back at square one.
Coffeeholic can you confirm if the shift i did was legal?
Started shift 12.00 sunday drive from near glasgow to portsmouth(9h28mdriving time)
Started first part of daily rest at 23.10 at portsmouth(11h10m working time so far)
Had 8h45m rest for first part of daily rest which i was splitting once for ferry crossing
Drive onto ferry at 07.55 monday morning-movement of 8minutes
Have about 6h 35min rest on ferry then come off starting with clean card starting next working shift
Going back to my original question of 10hour driving days going from sunday into monday would i have used 1 of my available 10 hour shifts by using the 8minutes of movement onto the boat on monday morning or would the total driving time of 9h 36 minutes all be attached to sundays shift enabling me to still have 2 10 hour driving days available in the new fixed week starting monday?
CALUM:
Coffeeholic can you confirm if the shift i did was legal?
Started shift 12.00 sunday drive from near glasgow to portsmouth(9h28mdriving time)
Started first part of daily rest at 23.10 at portsmouth(11h10m working time so far)
Had 8h45m rest for first part of daily rest which i was splitting once for ferry crossing
Drive onto ferry at 07.55 monday morning-movement of 8minutes
Have about 6h 35min rest on ferry then come off starting with clean card starting next working shift
Looks legal to me based on the information given. You had at least 11 hours rest, 12 hours 42 minutes, in the 24-hour period beginning 12:00 Sunday. You used 1 movement to interrupt the rest and this movement was less than 1 hour
CALUM:
Going back to my original question of 10hour driving days going from sunday into monday would i have used 1 of my available 10 hour shifts by using the 8minutes of movement onto the boat on monday morning or would the total driving time of 9h 36 minutes all be attached to sundays shift enabling me to still have 2 10 hour driving days available in the new fixed week starting monday?
You extended the driving day before 00:00 Monday so it was for the previous week and you still had 2 available to use.
