Give it a couple of days and some twit will drive over it / frec it up
Jesus Christ, is this really worthy of a new thread? It’s like rowleys tales of derring do on the M6
pierrot 14:
Juddian:
DickyNick:
Juddian:
Maybe they are professional lorry drivers who wouldn’t dream of switching a turbocharged engine off that has been working hard until its had a couple of minutes warming down.A fellow pro would know that.
Modern trucks do not require idling to warm up or cool down.
That’s probably why turbochargers are failing on a regular basis, do you believe that ■■■■■■■■ in a car handbook about 20k+ oil change intervals being ok too.
Juddian , I’m not disputing your comment but, I’d like to see where it’s written in a modern day truc’ks hand book to explain to the novices
or drivers that have just been given a brand new spec unit, what to do when you come to a stop and turn off the engine, to protect the turbo.The Scania I drive, if I let it run whilst stopped, i.e. at an intercom, turns itself off automatically
Buggered if i know either, what i do know is that when looked after and driven properly turbo failure on lorries is unheard of, but modern vehicles driven the modern way many have at least one turbo failure in the typical 5 year lease period.
Also know i’m taking no bloody notice of the fashion of the day and will see me time out with some mechanical sympathy warming engines up and allowing the turbo to cool down before shutdown.
bald bloke:
Being a fridge driver for the last 12 yrs why does the fridge start up just as you press the intercom button and you can’t get out to turn it off because the drivers door is too close to the intercom !
I know your pain, I sometimes, if possible, pull up just short to the gate to turn the fridge off, so we can both hear each other.
Once had a numpty at the other side of the intercom who asked me " why isn’t your fridge running ? "
Told him that I’d just turned it off so we could both hear each other. Told me to " turn it back on , or you can’t come in " 
You just can’t help people can you !!! ?
Juddian:
DickyNick:
Juddian:
Maybe they are professional lorry drivers who wouldn’t dream of switching a turbocharged engine off that has been working hard until its had a couple of minutes warming down.A fellow pro would know that.
Modern trucks do not require idling to warm up or cool down.
That’s probably why turbochargers are failing on a regular basis, do you believe that ■■■■■■■■ in a car handbook about 20k+ oil change intervals being ok too.
That’s funny because I’ve never known of a turbo charger to fail in my fleet.
Also funny I’ve never had a car where the owners manual advises a 20k oil change. But if it did say that for my car then yes I’d follow the manufacturers own guidance.
fleet units on a lease come with full repair and maintenance as part of the deal . The bean counters have it worked out you save more on fuel over the 3 year lease than the cost of a turbo or a starter . Thats why your " encouraged " to turn them off immediately or start up and drive away without getting the engine oil flowing simply because its the cheaper option - no mechanical sympathy at all.
Its not hard to spot the fleet spec cabbages that believe everything their "driver trainer " tells them .lol
pierrot 14:
bald bloke:
Being a fridge driver for the last 12 yrs why does the fridge start up just as you press the intercom button and you can’t get out to turn it off because the drivers door is too close to the intercom !I know your pain, I sometimes, if possible, pull up just short to the gate to turn the fridge off, so we can both hear each other.
Once had a numpty at the other side of the intercom who asked me " why isn’t your fridge running ? "
Told him that I’d just turned it off so we could both hear each other. Told me to " turn it back on , or you can’t come in "You just can’t help people can you !!! ?
Mate of mine delivering to hell hole south east london small supermarket, we were told to stop before we got there and turn the fridge off, my mate forgot, as he’s backing in a full size kitchen fridge launched from the top of the flats beside smashed to pieces on the ground beside the tractor unit.
That was 25 years ago, gawd knows how bad it is with what’s gone on in the meantime.
beefy4605:
fleet units on a lease come with full repair and maintenance as part of the deal . The bean counters have it worked out you save more on fuel over the 3 year lease than the cost of a turbo or a starter . Thats why your " encouraged " to turn them off immediately or start up and drive away without getting the engine oil flowing simply because its the cheaper option - no mechanical sympathy at all.
Its not hard to spot the fleet spec cabbages that believe everything their "driver trainer " tells them .lol
I had a feeling fuel fetish was the root of this ■■■■■■■■, presumably downtime recovery charges and most importantly a dissatisfied customer don’t count.
Yep i can just imagine the type, glad i work somewhere that couldn’t be more opposite.
Juddian:
pierrot 14:
bald bloke:
Being a fridge driver for the last 12 yrs why does the fridge start up just as you press the intercom button and you can’t get out to turn it off because the drivers door is too close to the intercom !I know your pain, I sometimes, if possible, pull up just short to the gate to turn the fridge off, so we can both hear each other.
Once had a numpty at the other side of the intercom who asked me " why isn’t your fridge running ? "
Told him that I’d just turned it off so we could both hear each other. Told me to " turn it back on , or you can’t come in "You just can’t help people can you !!! ?
Mate of mine delivering to hell hole south east london small supermarket, we were told to stop before we got there and turn the fridge off, my mate forgot, as he’s backing in a full size kitchen fridge launched from the top of the flats beside smashed to pieces on the ground beside the tractor unit.
That was 25 years ago, gawd knows how bad it is with what’s gone on in the meantime.
Tosh
Juddian:
beefy4605:
fleet units on a lease come with full repair and maintenance as part of the deal . The bean counters have it worked out you save more on fuel over the 3 year lease than the cost of a turbo or a starter . Thats why your " encouraged " to turn them off immediately or start up and drive away without getting the engine oil flowing simply because its the cheaper option - no mechanical sympathy at all.
Its not hard to spot the fleet spec cabbages that believe everything their "driver trainer " tells them .lolI had a feeling fuel fetish was the root of this ■■■■■■■■, presumably downtime recovery charges and most importantly a dissatisfied customer don’t count.
Yep i can just imagine the type, glad i work somewhere that couldn’t be more opposite.
Well if your a supermarket then you are your own customer so it dosen’t matter ,just how cheaply can you get your cabbage and spuds from warehouse to shop.
Suedehead:
Juddian:
pierrot 14:
bald bloke:
Being a fridge driver for the last 12 yrs why does the fridge start up just as you press the intercom button and you can’t get out to turn it off because the drivers door is too close to the intercom !I know your pain, I sometimes, if possible, pull up just short to the gate to turn the fridge off, so we can both hear each other.
Once had a numpty at the other side of the intercom who asked me " why isn’t your fridge running ? "
Told him that I’d just turned it off so we could both hear each other. Told me to " turn it back on , or you can’t come in "You just can’t help people can you !!! ?
Mate of mine delivering to hell hole south east london small supermarket, we were told to stop before we got there and turn the fridge off, my mate forgot, as he’s backing in a full size kitchen fridge launched from the top of the flats beside smashed to pieces on the ground beside the tractor unit.
That was 25 years ago, gawd knows how bad it is with what’s gone on in the meantime.Tosh
Nah it wasn’t Tosh, it was Pete.
Juddian:
glad i work somewhere that couldn’t be more opposite.
indeed covid was actually a blessing in disguise for us . less fridge work - less driver waiting rooms in RDC type places and the nonscence that goes on there (not that we went to many of the places that get mentioned on here ) more curtainsiders and increasingly more flat trailer work .Its a real breath of fresh air to get out and do site deliveries again - is nice to be treated like a grown up that can think for themselves and dosen’t need to be spoonfed and escorted everywhere . Simple skills like roping and sheeting seem to sort out the drivers from the steering wheel attendants .
DickyNick:
Juddian:
DickyNick:
Juddian:
Maybe they are professional lorry drivers who wouldn’t dream of switching a turbocharged engine off that has been working hard until its had a couple of minutes warming down.A fellow pro would know that.
Modern trucks do not require idling to warm up or cool down.
That’s probably why turbochargers are failing on a regular basis, do you believe that ■■■■■■■■ in a car handbook about 20k+ oil change intervals being ok too.
That’s funny because I’ve never known of a turbo charger to fail in my fleet.
Also funny I’ve never had a car where the owners manual advises a 20k oil change. But if it did say that for my car then yes I’d follow the manufacturers own guidance.
The manufacturers seem reluctant to fit automatic stop/start systems, they have automatic shut down which operates after a couple of minutes idling, may make you wonder why. Most Distribution Centres are far enough from the main drag to allow to Turbo to spin down whilst still being lubricated at a lower speed. Imagine coming off the M6 or A66 for Davidsons, the Turbo is cool enough by the time you pull in to the fuel station to turn it off. Its the same with the Channel Tunnel, by the time you drive through the scanners, the engine has idled for long enough.
All Morrisons RDCs seem to have incomprehensible Intercoms
Might as well be speaking Greek
Thejpmshow:
All Morrisons RDCs seem to have incomprehensible IntercomsMight as well be speaking Greek
Think a smattering of Nepalese would see you alright 
It’s a load of rubbish. It’s not the 1960s now. Modern engines warm up better and more efficiently when moving not sat idling. Cooling down period holds the same myth. The engine management computer takes care of that after you’ve turned the key to off so the driver doesn’t have to sit wasting fuel and putting unnecessary emissions into the atmosphere.
I’ve not known a turbo to fail on a truck either in warranty or out of warranty when operated like this.