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anorak:
Congratulations on the publication of the trilogy of books, Robert. Your research is at least as impressive as the vehicle itself. What next? Your experience, and the network you now have, must surely make a new project a certainty.
Anorak, thank you: I am touched by your acclaim, your faith, your trust and your support. Be sure that I’ll keep this show on the road! 
Robert
ERF-NGC-European:
ERF-Continental:
DEANB:
Posted the first pic a while back possibly on here or on the LHD ERF thread. I did not know TRGX had more than one B series,i wonder
if they replaced a NGC ■■? Might be worth looking into Robert.
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Nice post and I recall that Saviem/John mentioned something more on this fleet…but where?
Here:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=109317&p=2067584&hilit=trgx+transports#p2067584
Robert
Cheers for the link and unfortunate no real input on the NGC’s expected in that French fleet.
Furthermore…also my compliments for your hard labour on the ERF NGC to make it eternal in bookform! Well done!
ERF-Continental:
ERF-NGC-European:
ERF-Continental:
DEANB:
Posted the first pic a while back possibly on here or on the LHD ERF thread. I did not know TRGX had more than one B series,i wonder
if they replaced a NGC ■■? Might be worth looking into Robert.1
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Nice post and I recall that Saviem/John mentioned something more on this fleet…but where?
Here:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=109317&p=2067584&hilit=trgx+transports#p2067584
Robert
Cheers for the link and unfortunate no real input on the NGC’s expected in that French fleet.
Furthermore…also my compliments for your hard labour on the ERF NGC to make it eternal in bookform! Well done!
My sincere thanks, A-J. I do hope you enjoy this last book! Warm regards, Robert
tetragaz:
ERF-NGC-European:
Just found on-line, a much better image of the new picture I posted last week of the Collin NGC in its barn. Roberthave you bought it yet robert
Sorry, nearly missed this Tetragaz! The answer is no 
. However, now you mention it, if anyone has the contact details for the R Collin NGC in France I’d be very grateful if they would send me a PM 
. Cheers, Robert
I noticed this interesting attempt at an NGC in 1:50 scale sold on ebay this weekend (not to me though!). (And not to be confused with the newer kit version ). Robert
Phil Horridge’s NGC as posted on the Paul Gee thread by DEANB. This picture now appears in Book 3 . Robert
Re: Lorries of Arabia 3.
In the months following publication of a new book, I usually sift through the truck magazines in Smiths and pick up any book reviews, adverts etc. However, there are so many transport magazines these days that this is getting difficult and expensive (I’m a pensioner!). Furthermore I have to travel to another (bigger) town to find truck magazines. To compound this problem, magazine publishers are now vacuum-packing them so that you can’t see what is within.
So would the happy army of ERF-fanciers out there kindly keep their eyes peeled for any references to ERF NGCs in general, and Book 3 in particular and either alert us on here or scan the page(s) in the month following their removal from the shelves?
Be most grateful ! Ta! Robert
I heard from Wobbe Reitsma today with feedback on the new book. He made some interesting comments about the register.
Regarding No.74, the red/white unit belonging to Rien de Vos. When he interviewed them, they only declared the two NGCs in their livery. Perhaps the red one belonged to a subbie, or was even on demo from Best Trucks; or perhaps they forgot they’d had a red one! He will investigate further for us.
Regarding No.81, the ‘olive green’ NGC. John ‘Saviem’ gave a detailed description of this, so we sort of know it existed one way or another. But it appears that it did not belong to Prooi. Wobbe once interviewed Prooi and they said they only ran B-series ERFs, not NGCs. This confirms what Rene Postma, who knew the Prooi folk, told us some time back. So No.81 still stands, but not as a Prooi vehicle.
Regarding No.82, the G+G unit; Wobbe reckons this is one and the same with No.3, the NGC painted in G+G colours and run by Cees Willemstein. This has been contentious all along because we have no concrete evidence that No.82 existed, and it may well not!
Lastly, he sent me a fabulous colour shot of the G+G NGC, complete with matching trailer. It is the original version of the hazy black & white picture of it that’s somewhere on this thread. I am trying to get permission to use it on here .
Bon weekend, all!
Robert
Good afternoon Robert,
I may have been totally mistaken (That’s not hard to do!!), but I am sure that an “European” type cab was fitted to a ERF 8 wheel tipper run by an owner-driver running in North Somerset doing aggregate work.
Ed
EDTRUCK:
Good afternoon Robert,I may have been totally mistaken (That’s not hard to do!!), but I am sure that an “European” type cab was fitted to a ERF 8 wheel tipper run by an owner-driver running in North Somerset doing aggregate work.
Ed
Now that would be a sight to behold! Was it left-■■■■■■ then? Robert
ERF-NGC-European:
EDTRUCK:
Good afternoon Robert,I may have been totally mistaken (That’s not hard to do!!), but I am sure that an “European” type cab was fitted to a ERF 8 wheel tipper run by an owner-driver running in North Somerset doing aggregate work.
Ed
Unlikely to have had a 7MW cab as they were LHD. It might have been a cancelled order export 3MW or 5MW like this Kiwi example. robert
Heard again from Wobbe Reitsma today and he very kindly agreed that I could post this picture from his collection on here. For some reason, he thought I already had it! It shows No.3 on the register: 87-69-RB when it was run by Cees Willemstein of Barendrecht in the livery of Goodkoop de Geus. A splendid picture indeed! Cheers, Robert
ERF-NGC-European:
Heard again from Wobbe Reitsma today and he very kindly agreed that I could post this picture from his collection on here. For some reason, he thought I already had it! It shows No.3 on the register: 87-69-RB when it was run by Cees Willemstein of Barendrecht in the livery of Goodkoop de Geus. A splendid picture indeed!
Cracking pic chap ! 
Heres the black and white one we had previously of it. Th colour one is definately an improvement.
ERF-NGC-European:
Heard again from Wobbe Reitsma today and he very kindly agreed that I could post this picture from his collection on here. For some reason, he thought I already had it! It shows No.3 on the register: 87-69-RB when it was run by Cees Willemstein of Barendrecht in the livery of Goodkoop de Geus. A splendid picture indeed!
Good research and nice updates! I recall, somewhere in this thread, that there were TWO NGC’s in the livery of GG…with in the mid-seventies
flat trailers with stacked ICI-containers. Piet Pietjouw is quite a specialist in transport-photographs and he knows the ‘other’ subby Van Hooijdonk
very well…curious if some more date become available. Herewith some stable-mates and in picture two a detail of the ICI-containers.
Pictures of ZWN
ERF-Continental:
ERF-NGC-European:
Heard again from Wobbe Reitsma today and he very kindly agreed that I could post this picture from his collection on here. For some reason, he thought I already had it! It shows No.3 on the register: 87-69-RB when it was run by Cees Willemstein of Barendrecht in the livery of Goodkoop de Geus. A splendid picture indeed!2
Good research and nice updates! I recall, somewhere in this thread, that there were TWO NGC’s in the livery of GG…with in the mid-seventies
flat trailers with stacked ICI-containers. Piet Pietjouw is quite a specialist in transport-photographs and he knows the ‘other’ subby Van Hooijdonk
very well…curious if some more date become available. Herewith some stable-mates and in picture two a detail of the ICI-containers.Pictures of ZWN
Yes, I do remember the discussion about two NGC in G+G livery, which is why I still included No.82 on my register in the book . Van Marion was suggested as a possible operator. Robert
Robert, I know we have had the photo on before but dont know if we had the text.
DEANB:
Robert, I know we have had the photo on before but dont know if we had the text.0
That’s a good find! Yes, the picture is in one of my books and the information agrees with that in the caption. The only new piece of info is the price! Any idea what publication it was in? Robert
ERF-NGC-European:
DEANB:
Robert, I know we have had the photo on before but dont know if we had the text.0
That’s a good find! Yes, the picture is in one of my books and the information agrees with that in the caption. The only new piece of info is the price! Any idea what publication it was in? Robert
It was a Commercial Motor clipping but i dont know what month/year.
DEANB:
ERF-NGC-European:
DEANB:
Robert, I know we have had the photo on before but dont know if we had the text.0
That’s a good find! Yes, the picture is in one of my books and the information agrees with that in the caption. The only new piece of info is the price! Any idea what publication it was in? Robert
It was a Commercial Motor clipping but i dont know what month/year.
Thanks for that. The year should be 1975, I believe. Robert
STUNNING NEWS!
In recent times, you may remember that throughout the ERF threads there have been glimpses of some serious restoration of Motor Panels cabbed ERFs, especially the ‘MW’-cabbed series.
I have, for some time been aware of an ERF restorer of MW-cabbed ERFs whose work is of a very high standard; and whose restorations are very closely allied to the work of the founders and archivists of ERF lorries connected with REVS (the ERF conservation group). These restorers have already restored, or are in the process of restoring, some 3MW, 4MW, 5MW, & 6MW examples to a very high standard indeed.
OK: you know No.16 on the (my) register - French-registered 1557PF89, that was in the service of R Collin whose work was Exploitation Foresterie, and whose address was in 89 Montillet.
The restorers / ERF archivists whom I mentioned above, have now acquired this vehicle and it now resides on British soil. See picture below.
Excellent news!!
Furthermore, we now know that this NGC had an NTC 335 engine (not the 290 suggested earlier) and a Fuller 13-sp Fuller box (although there is a remote chance this could be a 15-sp box, though I seriously doubt it).
This lorry is in far better condition than has been reported on this thread. Furthermore, it is entirely intact. We now know that its chassis number was 26672.
All this flies in the face of some considerable ‘fake news’ posted on this thread about this particular vehicle.
I am, of course, utterly delighted that this ‘barn find’ has proved to be a second (only) example of the ERF NGC to be preserved. For me, this is a very exciting development and I only wish it had been acquired in time for my third book on the subject - only just released! It is quite incredible that another (probably the last) NGC has been found in serviceable condition. Brilliant!!!
Here it is, being transported back to dear old Blighty!
If you wonder why I am not acknowledging my sources, it is because I am protecting privacy. All will be revealed in due course!
Robert
