Another London attack

Dolph:

Carryfast:

Dolph:
RIP to all fallen innocent people.
Fvcking coward, attacking and killing girls and civilians.
I wish UK and Europe in general acts strongly and swiftly, stop with the liberal BS regarding terrorism.
Im listening BBC - police and MI5 investigate 500 plots for attacks :open_mouth:, how to fight it journalist asked, the answer- more community work, more tolerance, more police work, FU, deport the mothef***ers back to Lybia, Syria etc. if they are British citizens, strip them from citizenship and deport them to parent home country.
Its 717-718AD all over again with different means.

Great idea but then in the next breath you’re saying that Farage is the problem and the EU’s Federal dictatorship,run by people like Merkel and Juncker and Tusk etc and by implication its PC open door immigration policy,is the solution.Just because Farage doesn’t fit your own self interest agenda when it suits you. :unamused:

Then why 90% of the terrorist acts in Europe are committed from home grown terrorist citizens of UK, France, Belgium etc. If you were correct we would have every day terror attack by newcomers.
I didn’t said what you wrote.
I don’t care about Farage, he is a lying and deceiving politician who likes to play with people fears.

Make your mind up either you support the EU project and with it it’s leadership and Federal government system.In which case its immigration policy is clear in providing an open door to the Islamic invasion of Europe.Or you don’t.

While Farage’s views regarding the Islamic threat are clear and on record and no different to your own or Orban’s.Like Farage Orban also having expressed his reservations regarding the EU federal system removing the sovereignty of the European States.While you obviously just want to apply a mix and match cherry picked pro EU Federalist stance when it suits you and a Nationalist one regards immigration policy when it doesn’t.

As for home grown terrorism as far as I know providing an open door to Libyan,Syrian etc etc immigrants is a corner stone of Merkel’s foreign policy which of course she wants to impose on the rest of Europe using the EU Federal system.While yes we’ve got some massive problems here with our own government in that regard but we ain’t going to fix them by adding the EU’s Stalinist Soviet Socialist no borders ideology to them.

tommy t:

cav551:
I can just see that loathsome Mrs Jelly and her advisors rubbing their hands with glee at the news of another terrorist attack, how they must be celebrating at an allah given opportunity to change the subject.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/04/fresh-raids-east-ham-12-arrested-londons-night-terror/ Looks like its rinse and repeat, raid arrest detain, release without charges
whilst this continues http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/31/islamists-move-uk-freedom-radical-islam/
Now, who still thinks we are not at war?

We’ve been at war for 16 years now. Isn’t it about time we started defending ourselves?

Those past 16 years are like we’ve occasionally bombed Dresden every now and then, but dismantled our barrage balloons, and moved our anti aircraft guns away, and disbanded the RAF.

“London can take it”.

Even during the Blitz, Londoners were told things like “Anti Aircraft operations shot down number of German bombers during the raid last night.”
During the period when the docklands got hit night after night, a certain Royal most of us know best as the Queen Mum spoke of Buckingham Palace being hit by bombs “In some ways I’m glad we were hit. Now I can look the East End in the Eye”.

You’d think after 16 years, with the recent sharp escalations - we’d do more to take the fight to the enemy.
What happened to Raqqa being hit?
What happened to Trump’s “ISIS won’t know what’s hit them when I become President”?

Let’s make a start by rounding up the entire content of the “Watch List” spoken of. Some 3,000 Jihadis already radicalized. Forget this “Police the Internet” thing. That’s just an excuse to suppress freedoms further than even ISIS are doing right now.

Alternative options to declaring Islam itself illegal - are now fast running out. The Islamic community outside of those with a Jihadi agenda - need to open up, and give up those would-be future culprits in their own midst.
If they close ranks instead, the time is fast approaching when a more indiscriminate move against them will be made. We mustn’t forget that attacking people doesn’t really make them rally to your cause.

“Gee, That Herr Hitler killed a dozen of my work colleagues last night. I think we should march upon Downing street, and demand an immediate surrender to obviously superior Germany. It’s not as if we’re Jewish or anything!”

Perish the thought! :open_mouth:

Winseer:
We’ve been at war for 16 years now. Isn’t it about time we started defending ourselves?

Those past 16 years are like we’ve occasionally bombed Dresden every now and then, but dismantled our barrage balloons, and moved our anti aircraft guns away, and disbanded the RAF.

“London can take it”.

Even during the Blitz, Londoners were told things like “Anti Aircraft operations shot down number of German bombers during the raid last night.”
During the period when the docklands got hit night after night, a certain Royal most of us know best as the Queen Mum spoke of Buckingham Palace being hit by bombs “In some ways I’m glad we were hit. Now I can look the East End in the Eye”.

You’d think after 16 years, with the recent sharp escalations - we’d do more to take the fight to the enemy.
What happened to Raqqa being hit?
What happened to Trump’s “ISIS won’t know what’s hit them when I become President”?

Let’s make a start by rounding up the entire content of the “Watch List” spoken of. Some 3,000 Jihadis already radicalized. Forget this “Police the Internet” thing. That’s just an excuse to suppress freedoms further than even ISIS are doing right now.

Alternative options to declaring Islam itself illegal - are now fast running out. The Islamic community outside of those with a Jihadi agenda - need to open up, and give up those would-be future culprits in their own midst.
If they close ranks instead, the time is fast approaching when a more indiscriminate move against them will be made. We mustn’t forget that attacking people doesn’t really make them rally to your cause.

“Gee, That Herr Hitler killed a dozen of my work colleagues last night. I think we should march upon Downing street, and demand an immediate surrender to obviously superior Germany. It’s not as if we’re Jewish or anything!”

Perish the thought! :open_mouth:

Ironically your own idea of ‘rounding them up’/internment ?,as opposed to Black and Tan type death squad tactics sending them the message leave the country and go back to the desert zb hole where they belong now or die,suggest that you’ve been ‘got at’ by the pacifist turn the the other cheek mindset just the same. :bulb: :wink:

As for the Blitz.The comparison would be pray for London/Coventry etc etc and most Germans are good Germans and we must turn the other cheek to show that we can take it.Which means all night fighter operations and Harris’ Lancaster area bombing raid reprisals hurting ‘innocent’ Germans must be stopped to start with. :unamused:

Carryfast:

robroy:
Yeh…because that’s just what we need aint it, a civil war between Muslims living here, and White Brits. :unamused:

I’m the first to say sort out these traitorous pieces of [zb] that are both born in Britain and those who have Brit citizenship, I hate the [zb] lot of them (and especially I hate these white indigenous Brits who are converts that stir the [zb] up, they are much worse imo)
However, guys like him tend to have their own far right wing agenda, so they tar all Asians and/or Muslims, as militant terrorists…they are not :bulb: , …but unfortunately all terrorists tend to be Muslim, so it just escalates.
There should be a hard line taken with all these suspects who can not behave themselves in our country, what we do not need is neo ■■■■ groups taking the law into their own hands and making things even worse than hat they already are.

Firstly if you read your history you’d know that the nazis were actually allied with Jihad not against it.So we can forget that bs connection. :unamused:

On that note yes the BNP might be a bunch of misled zealots who can’t understand that Nationalist means the recognition of the right to self determination of others IE a Confederal UK giving Scotland its sovereignty back etc at least.But that doesn’t make them nazis just as Conservative Unionism doesn’t mean the Cons are nazis. :unamused: While I don’t think that anyone is calling for vigilante action in that regard even the BNP.Although who could really blame anyone who’s tipped over the edge in the case of personal involvement regarding a family member/s for example.

In which case make your mind up.If they are supposedly mostly good Muslims on our side why would/should there be any problem of any large scale opposition from the supposedly ‘British’ Muslim population that supposedly identifies itself on that basis.So the SAS knock on the doors of those on the watch list at least and they get a clandestine summary offer they can’t refuse.Remind us why that should be expected to cause any ‘issues’ among the ‘good’ Muslim community here.Just like we have the right to expect no sympathy with the Jihadist cause because of the ‘justified’,although completely zb’d up,actions in the Middle East,against Iraq and Afghan,when it should have been Saudi’s savage Wahabbist regime and society that should have been on the receiving end first if anyone.So we bomb and take out Saudi and the ‘good’ Brit Muslims are all going to say fine no problem we understand that ‘our’ country needs to do what it needs to do.Yeah right.On that note I’d suggest that ‘he’ is just taking into account the idea of Taqiyya within Islam and thereby just pointing out the probable true level of the problem we have in Europe unlike its apologists among the establishment.

Look Carryfast mate, I usually make a point of not responding to your boring patronising waffle, but I’ll force myself this once.

I’m quite well read on modern history thanks, despite you declaring my connection was bs, but whatever, …wtf has Hitler’s alliance to the Arab world (which was only based on them having mutual enemies and hostilities anyway :bulb: ) in WW2 got to do with the present situation we find ourselves in today.
( note. PLEASE do not give me your usual 3 paragraph pre. googled response, as my question is rhetorical.)

My term used was ‘NEO’ Nazis, ie definition… A group SIMILAR to the old German ■■■■ party. :bulb:

The guy in the vid was implying that people could/would/should take action themselves, and him (afaik) being the leader of some or other far right group, he would be in a position to do just that.

I did not say that there were good Muslims ‘‘on our side’’ as that implies there actually is some kind of Crusade by all Islamists, including the peaceful ones, against all the rest of ‘‘us’’ as this is the kind of ideaology that these neo ■■■■ groups in question appear to subscribe to stir things up even more.
I said that not all Asians and/or Muslims are terrorists, but unfortunately for all of both parties, all terrorists seem to be Muslims. :bulb:

I know and fully accept that the ‘‘Multi Cultural Society’’ in this country does not work, and that it is one big cluster ■■■■, the point I was making is that it should not be allowed to, or encourage radicals on either side of the fence to turn terrorist atrocities into an excuse, or whatever agenda led opportunity, for a full scale UK civil war. :bulb:

So keep your history lectures and your long winded patronising style tripe (and rolling eyes :unamused: ) for the likes of your mate Winseer who enjoys getting into a ‘lose the will to live’ type verbal tennis match engagement, but ffs…leave me out of them …please. :bulb:

When the Producers and the Right are matched by the Wasters and Hard Left - Then and only then - will we get a civil war.
At present, (as thursday’s election will likely show) the Right still has a small edge in this country. That edge is shrinking though. The Left are more concerned about infringements of Muslim rights as it stands than the members of the public who have already had their blood run down the streets in the name of Islam, or rather “Tolerance” of Islam.

Voting Labour or Libdem on Thursday - should be considered a hate crime against the rest of us that don’t share the Hard Left’s doctrine of “Love thy Enemy” (Funny how so many of them are not merely atheists, but despise Christ!) but Hate their own more-productive neighbors who will never be as bonkers in their arguments as this frightening new Brownshirt-like policy the Left have now adopted.

The entire world faces an unholy alliance that has gone far beyond being reversed at this latter day point.

By the time Islam turns upon that Leftist Atheist crowd for being “Just more infidels to kills” - it’ll be too late. There won’t be many (or enough!) of us left to even hold out the hand of forgiveness and reconciliation for what they have already done to us by that point.

I’ve always believed that Road Trade is the front line of what separates a basket case economy in a third world country from a “Developing” and “Developed” economy or country.

Yup - that means WE as truckers are in the front line of this war that has already started. :frowning:

Watch your back as you go for a ■■■■ in the service area…
Check your loads if you’ve left your vehicle in an unsecured zone for even a couple of minutes…
Have a quick walk-around check to make sure some nasty hasn’t pulled your pin whilst you were not looking.
Make sure you’re not inadvertently smuggling for the enemy.

and most of all… Don’t drive into an inner city area - without knowing where all your escape routes are! :bulb:

The politicians need to start setting examples by deporting there parents, there uncles aunts etc .get them out .And close the mosques they have used.
Its that simple .Ban them deport them imprison them
But ffs protect us all.

Sign up to rebel media on youtube for real news on jihadists .

robroy:
Look Carryfast mate, I usually make a point of not responding to your boring patronising waffle, but I’ll force myself this once.

I’m quite well read on modern history thanks, despite you declaring my connection was bs, but whatever, …wtf has Hitler’s alliance to the Arab world (which was only based on them having mutual enemies and hostilities anyway :bulb: ) in WW2 got to do with the present situation we find ourselves in today.
( note. PLEASE do not give me your usual 3 paragraph pre. googled response, as my question is rhetorical.)

My term used was ‘NEO’ Nazis, ie definition… A group SIMILAR to the old German ■■■■ party. :bulb:

The guy in the vid was implying that people could/would/should take action themselves, and him (afaik) being the leader of some or other far right group, he would be in a position to do just that.

I did not say that there were good Muslims ‘‘on our side’’ as that implies there actually is some kind of Crusade by all Islamists, including the peaceful ones, against all the rest of ‘‘us’’ as this is the kind of ideaology that these neo ■■■■ groups in question appear to subscribe to stir things up even more.
I said that not all Asians and/or Muslims are terrorists, but unfortunately for all of both parties, all terrorists seem to be Muslims. :bulb:

I know and fully accept that the ‘‘Multi Cultural Society’’ in this country does not work, and that it is one big cluster [zb], the point I was making is that it should not be allowed to, or encourage radicals on either side of the fence to turn terrorist atrocities into an excuse, or whatever agenda led opportunity, for a full scale UK civil war. :bulb:

So keep your history lectures and your long winded patronising style tripe (and rolling eyes :unamused: ) for the likes of your mate Winseer who enjoys getting into a ‘lose the will to live’ type verbal tennis match engagement, but ffs…leave me out of them …please. :bulb:

Firstly the point I was making is that for the BNP to be supposed ‘nazis’ they’d obviously need to follow the ■■■■ MO.Which was admiration of and allied with Jihad,being an essential part of that not just some convenient side line.While many of the average BNP supporters are too stupid to even be ‘nazis’ anyway in the common meaning of the word.

Which leaves the question so we set the SAS loose to carry out surgical, clandestine,carte blanche,summary ‘removal’ of the problem wherever possible at least against all of those we know about on the ‘watch’ list.Which I’m sure would probably also go a long way in pleasing the BNP types in showing them that we’re fighting back.

Or are you saying that would also result in your unfounded fears of a backlash by the Islamic community ?.In which case who cares we might as well get it over with now while there’s less of them rather than later when there’s more.

While if as you say it’s really a case of the large majority of the Islamic community aren’t supportive of Jihad wouldn’t you actually expect them to applaud such action and be with us in that and if not why not ?.

While what we don’t need is for our own people like you to be blaming a bunch of maybe misguided,but ultimately well meaning people,of our own,on our own side,when the enemy here is absolutely clear.That being Islamic Jihad including the potential tactic of Taqiyya among whatever proportion of the supposedly loyal Brit Muslim population.Which you’re obviously preferring to defend while not being prepared to give your own the same benefit of the doubt.IE the BNP,for all their faults,aren’t the problem here.

Which leaves the obvious question why do you seem to want to disproportionately pick on them rather than the real enemy.Bearing in mind that I can also fully understand Juddian’s well founded and well meaning views and sympathies with the BNP’s justified argument in that regard.Just like the person in the video.That doesn’t make them or me nazis.In which case it’s you who can keep your patronising borderline pacifist Corbynite views.

Beetlejuice:
The politicians need to start setting examples by deporting there parents, there uncles aunts etc .get them out .Ban them deport them imprison them
But ffs protect us all.

Ironically the Manchester attack at least would have been a perfect example of that policy having worked if only we’d had it in place.Although as I’ve said I’d go for the knock on the door by SAS dressed up as the postman or the meter reader or milkman etc with carte blanche to do what’s required instead of the prison option where needed. :bulb: :wink:

Janos:

halewood:

Janos:
No Islam…Know Peace. Simple.

If only it was that simple.Bit like yourself

Very brave statement on a forum. For your information, Islam means to submit. There is no such thing as peaceful Islam. So as long as we allow a totally alien religion and culture to exist in our country, these attacks will keep on happening. Perhaps for people like you submission is okay, but there are a lot of people who would rather not. Our national anthem says Britons never ever shall be slaves. That does not apply to mindless morons like you of course.
There is only one real solution, and that is to either ban Islam or to curb its influence. Many other countries around the world are aware of the threat, and are trying to do just that. If something is not done, then once the Muslim population is strong enough, they will be running this country.

[zb] me the mayor is a mus its aready started

We could all go to syria and claim to be from a war torn country fleeing persecution

Carryfast:

robroy:
Look Carryfast mate, I usually make a point of not responding to your boring patronising waffle, but I’ll force myself this once.

I’m quite well read on modern history thanks, despite you declaring my connection was bs, but whatever, …wtf has Hitler’s alliance to the Arab world (which was only based on them having mutual enemies and hostilities anyway :bulb: ) in WW2 got to do with the present situation we find ourselves in today.
( note. PLEASE do not give me your usual 3 paragraph pre. googled response, as my question is rhetorical.)

My term used was ‘NEO’ Nazis, ie definition… A group SIMILAR to the old German ■■■■ party. :bulb:

The guy in the vid was implying that people could/would/should take action themselves, and him (afaik) being the leader of some or other far right group, he would be in a position to do just that.

I did not say that there were good Muslims ‘‘on our side’’ as that implies there actually is some kind of Crusade by all Islamists, including the peaceful ones, against all the rest of ‘‘us’’ as this is the kind of ideaology that these neo ■■■■ groups in question appear to subscribe to stir things up even more.
I said that not all Asians and/or Muslims are terrorists, but unfortunately for all of both parties, all terrorists seem to be Muslims. :bulb:

I know and fully accept that the ‘‘Multi Cultural Society’’ in this country does not work, and that it is one big cluster [zb], the point I was making is that it should not be allowed to, or encourage radicals on either side of the fence to turn terrorist atrocities into an excuse, or whatever agenda led opportunity, for a full scale UK civil war. :bulb:

So keep your history lectures and your long winded patronising style tripe (and rolling eyes :unamused: ) for the likes of your mate Winseer who enjoys getting into a ‘lose the will to live’ type verbal tennis match engagement, but ffs…leave me out of them …please. :bulb:

Firstly the point I was making is that for the BNP to be supposed ‘nazis’ they’d obviously need to follow the ■■■■ MO.Which was admiration of and allied with Jihad,being an essential part of that not just some convenient side line.While many of the average BNP supporters are too stupid to even be ‘nazis’ anyway in the common meaning of the word.

Which leaves the question so we set the SAS loose to carry out surgical, clandestine,carte blanche,summary ‘removal’ of the problem wherever possible at least against all of those we know about on the ‘watch’ list.Which I’m sure would probably also go a long way in pleasing the BNP types in showing them that we’re fighting back.

Or are you saying that would also result in your unfounded fears of a backlash by the Islamic community ?.In which case who cares we might as well get it over with now while there’s less of them rather than later when there’s more.

While if as you say it’s really a case of the large majority of the Islamic community aren’t supportive of Jihad wouldn’t you actually expect them to applaud such action and be with us in that and if not why not ?.

While what we don’t need is for our own people like you to be blaming a bunch of maybe misguided,but ultimately well meaning people,of our own,on our own side,when the enemy here is absolutely clear.That being Islamic Jihad including the potential tactic of Taqiyya among whatever proportion of the supposedly loyal Brit Muslim population.Which you’re obviously preferring to defend while not being prepared to give your own the same benefit of the doubt.IE the BNP,for all their faults,aren’t the problem here.

Which leaves the obvious question why do you seem to want to disproportionately pick on them rather than the real enemy.Bearing in mind that I can also fully understand Juddian’s well founded and well meaning views and sympathies with the BNP’s justified argument in that regard.Just like the person in the video.That doesn’t make them or me nazis.In which case it’s you who can keep your patronising borderline pacifist Corbynite views.

I can’t actually believe I’m responding to you twice. :unamused:
Whatever I say (or for that matter anybody else on here) you always interpret it to whatever you like to make way for yourself to go off on some ■■■■ rant.

I am not ‘‘defending’’ anybody as you mention and choose to believe, neither am I some kind of an apologist for Muslims, I hate and detest the scum who carry out atrocities on us.
In fact I freely admit the only Muslim people I actually personally know are the lads from my local Indian takeaway tbh, they do not strike me as mad militant jihadists,
The point I was trying to make was that there were many like these guys, just going about their day in peace, and granted following some superstitious belief, so what would be the point of some neo ■■■■ racist thug kicking the out of the likes of them…as I said we do not need some kind of civil war on our streets.

Love it that YOU call me patronising btw… that is a gem.
As for pacifist, never been called that before. :smiley:
Corbynite ? Your twisted interpretations are legendary bud. :smiley: …I’m neither Corbynite, Israelite or ■■■■ Dynamite.

robroy:
I can’t actually believe I’m responding to you twice. :unamused:
Whatever I say (or for that matter anybody else on here) you always interpret it to whatever you like to make way for yourself to go off on some [zb] rant.

I am not ‘‘defending’’ anybody as you mention and choose to believe, neither am I some kind of an apologist for Muslims, I hate and detest the scum who carry out atrocities on us.
In fact I freely admit the only Muslim people I actually personally know are the lads from my local Indian takeaway tbh, they do not strike me as mad militant jihadists,
The point I was trying to make was that there were many like these guys, just going about their day in peace, and granted following some superstitious belief, so what would be the point of some neo ■■■■ racist thug kicking the out of the likes of them…as I said we do not need some kind of civil war on our streets.

Love it that YOU call me patronising btw… that is a gem.
As for pacifist, never been called that before. :smiley:
Corbynite ? Your twisted interpretations are legendary bud. :smiley: …I’m neither Corbynite, Israelite or [zb] Dynamite.

As I said we haven’t got any problem of any supposed large scale if any issues of any supposed neo ■■■■ thugs doing any stupid pointless reprisal attacks against the local takeaway or newsagents.Nor would even they probably be stupid enough to think that would fix the problem anyway.

What we do have a problem with is actually knowing what the motives are of much of the Muslim population in general taking into account Taqiyya.But it would probably be a good guide as to their motives,in the case of whether or not they’d care less about the idea of extra judicial summary military ‘action’ against at least all those on the so called ‘watch’ list.In addition to the answer of your personal views on that potential plan.While in view of the fact that they are supposedly so ‘moderate’ they obviously also won’t mind the government U turning on the Saudi Wahabbist invasion agenda.In the form of the destruction of all Wahabbist/Saudi linked Mosques etc and an end to the open door immigration policy regarding so called Islamic ‘refugees’.Together with controls on the freedom of the Muslim community to carry out its faith in any way which doesn’t fit all the ideals of ‘moderate’ pre Islamic revolutionary Iran and thereby in line with western values and with respect for their hosts.

Instead of which we have May continuing to follow idiotic US policy of appeasement of the radical Saudi Wahabbist regime if not helping to arm it to the teeth and praising Kahn’s calls to honour the human rights and judicial privileges of the Jihadist scum who are the problem here.While allowing radical fundamental Wahabbist type Islam to take place on our streets while adding to it on an ever increasing basis.

As for trying to divert the spotlight and the blame onto so called non existent ‘Neo Nazis’,just like May and Kahn,you’re avin a larf in that regard.As I said the enemy is clear and it ain’t any of our own who are the problem here,regardless of whether they might be a few misguided,but unlimately well meaning and correct in this specific case,BNP supporters or not.Which includes the justified comments of the person in the video who’s effectively rightly telling the government to get a bleedin grip before it’s too late.While he’s definitely not telling his viewers to take out the local Asian restaurant etc etc.

Carryfast:

robroy:
I can’t actually believe I’m responding to you twice. :unamused:
Whatever I say (or for that matter anybody else on here) you always interpret it to whatever you like to make way for yourself to go off on some [zb] rant.

I am not ‘‘defending’’ anybody as you mention and choose to believe, neither am I some kind of an apologist for Muslims, I hate and detest the scum who carry out atrocities on us.
In fact I freely admit the only Muslim people I actually personally know are the lads from my local Indian takeaway tbh, they do not strike me as mad militant jihadists,
The point I was trying to make was that there were many like these guys, just going about their day in peace, and granted following some superstitious belief, so what would be the point of some neo ■■■■ racist thug kicking the out of the likes of them…as I said we do not need some kind of civil war on our streets.

Love it that YOU call me patronising btw… that is a gem.
As for pacifist, never been called that before. :smiley:
Corbynite ? Your twisted interpretations are legendary bud. :smiley: …I’m neither Corbynite, Israelite or [zb] Dynamite.

As I said we haven’t got any problem of any supposed large scale if any issues of any supposed neo ■■■■ thugs doing any stupid pointless reprisal attacks against the local takeaway or newsagents.Nor would even they probably be stupid enough to think that would fix the problem anyway.

What we do have a problem with is actually knowing what the motives are of much of the Muslim population in general taking into account Taqiyya.But it would probably be a good guide as to their motives,in the case of whether or not they’d care less about the idea of extra judicial summary military ‘action’ against at least all those on the so called ‘watch’ list.In addition to the answer of your personal views on that potential plan.While in view of the fact that they are supposedly so ‘moderate’ they obviously also won’t mind the government U turning on the Saudi Wahabbist invasion agenda.In the form of the destruction of all Wahabbist/Saudi linked Mosques etc and an end to the open door immigration policy regarding so called Islamic ‘refugees’.Together with controls on the freedom of the Muslim community to carry out its faith in any way which doesn’t fit all the ideals of ‘moderate’ pre Islamic revolutionary Iran and thereby in line with western values and with respect for their hosts.

Instead of which we have May continuing to follow idiotic US policy of appeasement of the radical Saudi Wahabbist regime if not helping to arm it to the teeth and praising Kahn’s calls to honour the human rights and judicial privileges of the Jihadist scum who are the problem here.While allowing radical fundamental Wahabbist type Islam to take place on our streets while adding to it on an ever increasing basis.

As for trying to divert the spotlight and the blame onto so called non existent ‘Neo Nazis’,just like May and Kahn,you’re avin a larf in that regard.As I said the enemy is clear and it ain’t any of our own who are the problem here,regardless of whether they might be a few misguided,but unlimately well meaning and correct in this specific case,BNP supporters or not.Which includes the justified comments of the person in the video who’s effectively rightly telling the government to get a bleedin grip before it’s too late.While he’s definitely not telling his viewers to take out the local Asian restaurant etc etc.

Ok, I think I’ve managed to pull out a few relavent and valid points among all the ‘packing’ and of course you displaying your superior expertise in the different factions of the Muslim religion…(…as you do with every other subject on this earth.)
Among it we have found some common ground, I agree with most of it (I think :neutral_face: )
The only bit I have a slight problem with is I reckon a vast number of this guy’s supporters or private army, or whatever, will more than likely share the same brain cell on different days, so they may be incapable of differentiating between the mad jihadists and the guys in the takeaway (or even care for that matter) but only see a dark skin.
This is where the ‘Civil War’ bit comes in, sparked off by vigilantism spiced by a bit of racism.

Anyway, I think I’ve made and explained my pov on this Carryfast, so I’m about to knock it on the head mate. :wink:

robroy:
The only bit I have a slight problem with is I reckon a vast number of this guy’s supporters or private army, or whatever, will more than likely share the same brain cell on different days, so they may be incapable of differentiating between the mad jihadists and the guys in the takeaway (or even care for that matter) but only see a dark skin.
This is where the ‘Civil War’ bit comes in, sparked off by vigilantism spiced by a bit of racism.

Anyway, I think I’ve made and explained my pov on this Carryfast, so I’m about to knock it on the head mate. :wink:

As for the racism part I agree with Desmond Dekker literally here.Does that make me or him a ‘racist’.No.I’d guess the same applies in the case of the average BNP supporter. :wink:

youtube.com/watch?v=JaozOjFzWOg

If only we’d at least have applied that type of ‘nationalist/nativist’,not racist,attitude to the Manchester nutter etc etc and their families then the people that those nutters have murdered would still be here. :frowning: Failing that,that obviously just leaves the option of Black and Tan type tactics.Neither of which the government has the stomach for.Choosing instead to bring more in and allowing those here free reign to impose their radical,Wahabbist,sharia society on our streets while Kahn calls for the human and judicial rights of those on the so called ‘watch’ list.While calling Saudi Arabia our ally.

Let’s talk about “Which party is most likely to prevent the next terror attack”, especially prevent one in a high profile manner…

"Joe Bloggs was alarmed today, when a van suddenly pulled up alongside him and a crowd of people drinking outside a pub in South London. The door flew open, and three masked men got out armed with automatic weapons.
Instead of spraying the crowd present with bullets however, three single shots rang out, and three previously un-noticed Jihadis who’d just sat down in the corner, one with a duffel bag, one with a bulge in his heavy overcoat pocket (on this tenth anniversary of the 7.7 attacks) and the third wearing what looked to be a lifejacket under his TfL hi-viz vest - all fall to the ground dead. Blue sirens approached, and a meatwagon took away these latest three would-be jihadists, no harm done to the surrounding public whatsoever. Nearby drinkers punched the air with offers of free pints aplenty to the SAS-style pin-point operation carried out before them this evening."

I can’t see the above future fictional headline happening under a Labour government somehow… :unamused:

Winseer:
Let’s talk about “Which party is most likely to prevent the next terror attack”, especially prevent one in a high profile manner…

"Joe Bloggs was alarmed today, when a van suddenly pulled up alongside him and a crowd of people drinking outside a pub in South London. The door flew open, and three masked men got out armed with automatic weapons.
Instead of spraying the crowd present with bullets however, three single shots rang out, and three previously un-noticed Jihadis who’d just sat down in the corner, one with a duffel bag, one with a bulge in his heavy overcoat pocket (on this tenth anniversary of the 7.7 attacks) and the third wearing what looked to be a lifejacket under his TfL hi-viz vest - all fall to the ground dead. Blue sirens approached, and a meatwagon took away these latest three would-be jihadists, no harm done to the surrounding public whatsoever. Nearby drinkers punched the air with offers of free pints aplenty to the SAS-style pin-point operation carried out before them this evening."

I can’t see the above future fictional headline happening under a Labour government somehow… :unamused:

Ideally the plan needs to be the Jihadists ‘removal’ from the scene long before they reach their target areas.To the point where the ‘watch list’ is literally downgraded to zero.Together with an end to the freedom to practice radical Islam on our streets including radical Islamic dress code and a change in foreign policy which views Saudi Arabia as part of the problem not the solution.It’s probably fair to say that a vote for May is as bad as a vote for Corbyn in that regard. :bulb:

youtube.com/watch?v=FyqpL2x9nlM

I won’t start another thread but have woken up to news of another attack in London where it seems a guy has deliberately targeted Muslims.

Race war here we come

kcrussell25:
I won’t start another thread but have woken up to news of another attack in London where it seems a guy has deliberately targeted Muslims.

Race war here we come

This is what happens when the liberal lefties bury their heads in the sand and deny there’s a problem

kcrussell25:
I won’t start another thread but have woken up to news of another attack in London where it seems a guy has deliberately targeted Muslims.

Race war here we come

I won’t be shedding a tear for them. They’ve demanded extra security on the mosques, and the laughable thing is they will get it