Looks like the one Nikola demonstrated was a fake they did and was just rolling down a hill
It makes you wonder if GM were hoodwinked into recently taking a $2billion stake in Nikola 
Speaking of e-trucks anyone seen the new line up of Mercedes Benz eActros EV’Fuel cell trucks they have in mind 
“long range” 500Km or the Gen2 fuel cell with 1000Km range electrek.co/2020/09/16/mercedes … qus_thread
lancpudn:
It makes you wonder if GM were hoodwinked into recently taking a $2billion stake in NikolaSpeaking of e-trucks anyone seen the new line up of Mercedes Benz eActros EV’Fuel cell trucks they have in mind
Why not just use Hydrogen fuelled conventional engines that everyone knows.
While as it stands unless they find a better efficient way of making it even Hydrogen is just going to eventually result in nuclear disaster with the power needed to produce it.All to solve a non existent CO2 ‘problem’.
As for anyone claiming to be able to solve the battery weight v range v average speed v payload equation only GM could be stupid enough to believe it.
Carryfast:
lancpudn:
It makes you wonder if GM were hoodwinked into recently taking a $2billion stake in NikolaSpeaking of e-trucks anyone seen the new line up of Mercedes Benz eActros EV’Fuel cell trucks they have in mind
Why not just use Hydrogen fuelled conventional engines that everyone knows.
While as it stands unless they find a better efficient way of making it even Hydrogen is just going to eventually result in nuclear disaster with the power needed to produce it.All to solve a non existent CO2 ‘problem’.
As for anyone claiming to be able to solve the battery weight v range v average speed v payload equation only GM could be stupid enough to believe it.
Reading another blurb from Mercedes Benz.
“Battery power will be rather used for lower cargo weights and for shorter distances.
“Fuel-cell power will tend to be the preferred option for heavier loads and longer distances.”
“The production version of the Mercedes-Benz GenH2 Truck, which made its world premiere as a concept vehicle, will have a gross vehicle weight of 40 tons and a payload of 25 tones.”
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Two special liquid-hydrogen tanks and a particularly powerful fuel-cell system will make this high payload and long range possible, and therefore form the core of the GenH2 Truck concept".
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The manufacturer says liquid – instead of gaseous - hydrogen will be used as with its higher energy density, the vehicle’s performance is planned to equal that of a comparable conventional diesel truck."
''The manufacturer says liquid – instead of gaseous - hydrogen will be used as with its higher energy density, the vehicle’s performance is planned to equal that of a comparable conventional diesel truck."
A comparable conventional MB truck presumably, does the driver have a fred flinstone style opening in the floor or pedals to assist hill climbing, is he bolted to the seat so when he encounters the statutory pot hole he isn’t thrown from the seat bringing the vehicle to a shuddering halt ? 
Hows that going to work when there’s no Fred, driverless by next year isn’t that the great replacement plan.
Juddian:
''The manufacturer says liquid – instead of gaseous - hydrogen will be used as with its higher energy density, the vehicle’s performance is planned to equal that of a comparable conventional diesel truck."A comparable conventional MB truck presumably, does the driver have a fred flinstone style opening in the floor or pedals to assist hill climbing, is he bolted to the seat so when he encounters the statutory pot hole he isn’t thrown from the seat bringing the vehicle to a shuddering halt ?
Hows that going to work when there’s no Fred, driverless by next year isn’t that the great replacement plan.
Yep loads of robots making and moving stuff which the unemployed on UC can’t afford to buy.
The nuclear fuelled nightmare based on solving the non existent fake CO2 problem in which gambling on which power station blows up first will replace the riderless horse racing idea which fell at the first hurdle.
Ironically hydrogen fuelled engines work fine but there’s not as much profit in making proper engines as flogging electric toys for a proper vehicle price.
That’s if they can find a way of making hydrogen that doesn’t consume more expensive dangerous nuke generated energy than the stuff contains when they’ve got it.