Just saw a bit about mad Borris in London yesterday with the boys in blue on about truck safety.
There was a scaffold truck given an infringement notice for having no back board, nothing else said about the load and the truck was new ish.
But like nearly every truck the long tube lengths overhang the tailgate by less than a foot.
I have Never seen a scaffold pole fall out the back ever…But does this mean they are all going to start getting done now for insecure loads ?
Whats your thoughts ?
A lorry will never take off fast enough for the poles to fall out of the back, it will stop quick enough and cause the poles to go through the cab if there is no headboard.
Rather than have him climb down 36 lifts of scaffold (slight exaggeration), I caught his keys & moved it for him.
Never again. It looked in fairly good condition but the clutch pedal would’ve made ‘He Man’ collapse in agony with leg cramp.
These blokes lift weights all day long, try not to upset them.
dont know if any other driver thinks the same but i often think they are way overloaded when i see them
truckman20:
dont know if any other driver thinks the same but i often think they are way overloaded when i see them
What makes you think that?
Chas:
Rather than have him climb down 36 lifts of scaffold (slight exaggeration), I caught his keys & moved it for him.Never again. It looked in fairly good condition but the clutch pedal would’ve made ‘He Man’ collapse in agony with leg cramp.
These blokes lift weights all day long, try not to upset them.
^This.
As far as I am aware, there is no legal requirement for any goods vehicle to be fitted with a tailboard.
There is, however, an absolute requirement for the vehicles load to be SECURED. There are occasions when the load of scaffold poles are below the height of the sides of the vehicle making it difficult to secure the load in the usual manner, ie. with straps or ropes. In these circumstances it is USUAL to carry the load without any restraint, relying on the friction of the pipes with each other and with the vehicle’s load platform to stop the poles moving to the rear. The driver may well claim- probably rightly- that, in his experience of carrying similar loads for over forty years, the load is unlikely to move. Plod, VOSA, Boris and all other trouble-makers and time-wasters will claim- definitely rightly- that the load is not secured.
Wait for the summons to drop through the letterbox.
Any comments, Rog?
Chas:
truckman20:
dont know if any other driver thinks the same but i often think they are way overloaded when i see themWhat makes you think that?
When I see them it’s the bulging tyres at the back and the exposed suspension at the front that gives it away
Sunnydevon:
Chas:
truckman20:
dont know if any other driver thinks the same but i often think they are way overloaded when i see themWhat makes you think that?
When I see them it’s the bulging tyres at the back and the exposed suspension at the front that gives it away
And that’s with 50 stone sat in the cab
Retired Old ■■■■:
As far as I am aware, there is no legal requirement for any goods vehicle to be fitted with a tailboard.
There is, however, an absolute requirement for the vehicles load to be SECURED. There are occasions when the load of scaffold poles are below the height of the sides of the vehicle making it difficult to secure the load in the usual manner, ie. with straps or ropes. In these circumstances it is USUAL to carry the load without any restraint, relying on the friction of the pipes with each other and with the vehicle’s load platform to stop the poles moving to the rear. The driver may well claim- probably rightly- that, in his experience of carrying similar loads for over forty years, the load is unlikely to move. Plod, VOSA, Boris and all other trouble-makers and time-wasters will claim- definitely rightly- that the load is not secured.
Wait for the summons to drop through the letterbox.Any comments, Rog?
Well I think your opinion is like mine, and if I was the scaffolder I would be going to stand in the dock and argue, hopefully with a heavyweight Barister paid for by the industry as it will have huge repercussions for the industry if that Mop haired prat and his followers win this one.
3 wheeler- As much as I agree with your thoughts, the letter of the law will probably reign: the load MUST be secured. I doubt whether any barrister, however well paid, could convince a jury that a load was secure if there was nothing securing it.
Sunnydevon:
Sunnydevon:
Chas:
truckman20:
dont know if any other driver thinks the same but i often think they are way overloaded when i see themWhat makes you think that?
When I see them it’s the bulging tyres at the back and the exposed suspension at the front that gives it away
And that’s with 50 stone sat in the cab
And the fact that the lorry’s doing wheelies from every set of lights!
Proper grafters job being a scaffolder, Don’t think I’d last a week. The scaffold structures they build on the back of the lorry are…interesting
Not a mot fail for no tail board unless the marker boards are on it and its in the yard
Personally I like them in front of me when approaching a vosa site, lets face it the only thing that gets pulled before them are our forgien friends
In my opinion, scaffolder trucks are driven by scaffolders! They aren’t what you’d call HGV drivers as they seem to have no interest in driving ‘professionally’
Usually on ‘job & knock’ so they have to get from A to B like there’s no tomorrow, if that means cutting you up then so be it. I’ve found the 7.5T drivers to be the worst.
I think the bigger outfits are slightly better with load security. They’re the ones that run those mini artics and I’m yet to see one of them flying around or load not strapped.
I was a driver/labourer for a scaffolding outfit years ago.I never strapped anything down,poles/planks etc: I only lasted 3 weeks as it was too much like hard work for me.Iv’e got a sweat on now,just thinking about it.
Their windscreen field of vision amuses me.Four feet tall of year old newspapers.
Coke tins.
Rolling tobacco bags.
■■■ boxes.
Old Gingster pie wrapping.
Two year old analogue tachos.
One work boot with no laces.
Sweet wrappers.
Old magazines.
Selection of spanners or hammers.How do they see out?If it turned over in acvident?
toby1234abc:
Their windscreen field of vision amuses me.Four feet tall of year old newspapers.
Coke tins.
Rolling tobacco bags.
■■■ boxes.
Old Gingster pie wrapping.
Two year old analogue tachos.
One work boot with no laces.
Sweet wrappers.
Old magazines.
Selection of spanners or hammers.How do they see out?If it turned over in acvident?
What about the “gentlemans’ art pamphlets”?
You also forgot the 6 inches of dust on the dashboard…
If I was a VOSA bd, I’d pick on them to guarantee my quota, a copper told me most use downrated 12 and 18 tonners. This means guaranteed overloading and in many cases the driver doesn’t have automatic 7.5t entitlement.