Yodel, Shaw, Oldham

I went for an Assessment/Induction last Wed through NDS Agency.

I was taken through the whole process by a chap called Derek, and the driving part went well, apart from one or two minor errors, and at one point did 33mph in 30, which I corrected quickly. I was driving a new Actross, which I was unfamiliar with. This vehicle came with satellite control, which when switched to Aeconomy mode, will hold the gears on on incline so the driver will not be allowed to change down, and will drop it a gear when going down hill. All very technical,and all designed for max mpg. So all this was being explained to me whilst out on the road, and I found it useful.

On returning to the depot, I was told I had passed with a hight standard of driving, and not to let it slip.With that, now 2 hours into the assessment, I had to go through the induction part, covering the MAN’s and DAF’s, the trailers, Double Deckers, and other on site rules. Then the paperwork.All in all, I was there 4 hrs. I was told by Derek, I’ll email NDS to tell them you’ve passed, and good luck working here. I rang NDS and ttold them, they said leave it with us, and we’ll get you a start time for tomorrow.

After not hearing from them since, I rang them yesterday to see what was going on, to be told , we were told you have failed, so I informed them Derek had passed me. So NDS rang Yodel, and they were informed the Manager above Derek has failed me for “excessive speed”. The only time I broke the limit was doing 33 over 30, and it was rectified very quickly.

So that’s it for me, no more assessments and inductions. I’d rather go hungry than allow myself to be humiliated in this manner. This cost me a days wage last week to this requirement at Yodel. NDS didn’t seem to want to challenge the decision, just got the lackadaisical reply "there’s nothing we can do about it. NDS got the email the same day, and I find it disgraceful that they didn’t have the decency to inform me as soon as they new. For a driver with 37
yrs experience to pass me, with 25 yrs exp, then to be over ridden by a “manager”, is quite ridiculous.

As far as I’m concerned now, it’s Yodel’s loss.

Something has gone wrong somewhere, don’t always believe what the agency liars tell you.

I had my induction with Derek, he’s a really nice guy, yes he likes things done by the book but it’s his arse on the line if he passes you and you then ■■■■ up and say “but Derek said this was fine”.

I had a good couple of hours with him and we just chatted along, I clipped a kurb and was working there the next day, so he’s not going to fail you for 33 in a 30 unless it was past the shops near the entrance.

Derek didn’t fail me, and like you say, he’s a really nice bloke, and showed me how the Mercs achieve the mpg with the satellite aid. I’ve sent an email to NDS,and am waiting a reply.

roughyed:
Derek didn’t fail me, and like you say, he’s a really nice bloke, and showed me how the Mercs achieve the mpg with the satellite aid. I’ve sent an email to NDS,and am waiting a reply.

Don’t take this the wrong way but I am sure you are wasting your time. The agency is not going to rock the boat with what is presumably a major client over one driver. The bottom line is that if they don’t want you for whatever reason, there’s nothing you can do.

speeding is a no no whether a few seconds or not its that simple.

yes its ■■■■■■ and harsh but the amount of drivers that fail for silly little things amazes me (and I have done pretty much every assessment I supply drivers to), drivers who go in for an induction and rush a tacho test making daft mistakes etc.

but I have to be honest and think it shows a total lack of trust in the assessor from the manager.

roughyed, your could bet your last dime if you would of had your assesment in peak time NOV/DEC you would of been working for yodel…sometimes folk liked to impose there own self importance on us mere mortals. it’s there loss.and i’m sure as that you’l get yourself sorted out with other work good luck

Agencies are lying ■■■■■ m8 , been there done it , I’ve not had an assessment but just dealt with agencies " yes come in today we will guarantee you work" and never hear from them again to this day I don’t know what that was about lol but hey ho . I know how it feels I was very near going to go through one of them , buts not worth it, Just dust your self down and bash on .

yeah agencies are scum of the earth just ask the thousands of drivers who pay their mortgage and bills by working for them. :unamused:

roughyed:
As far as I’m concerned now, it’s Yodel’s loss.

No it’s not, don’t kid yourself, plenty of drivers about:!:

roughyed:
On returning to the depot, I was told I had passed with a hight standard of driving, and not to let it slip.

Lies make the world go round, didn’t you know…? Those same lies are the foundation of all agencies, hope you’ve learnt your lesson drive:lol:

I’ve been criticised for my driving on every assessment I’ve ever been on… speeding, not checking my mirrors enough, not concentrating, driving too close to the kerb, poor road positioning, using the indicators too early… the list goes on… ive driven Class 1for nearly 30 years, I’m definetly not the best driver in the world because i have too many bad habits, but i haven’t bumped or scraped anything yet. (But It’s only a matter of time and luck)

I then discovered that some of my most critical assesors didn’t even have an HGV licence!.. It sounds like your standards were way too high, and you care about your driving.

I have learnt to humour assesors. I let them explain to me how to do things that I was doing when they were sucking on their mothers ■■■■■ and have to pretend I’m taking it all in. (Eg. Reversing)

I never ■■■■ into their conversation, and I never question their way of doing things, some assesors are just complete bell ends and you just have to accept it.

I listen to their criticism, nod at the correct time and tell them what they want to hear… sometimes you can have a perfect drive, but your face just doesn’t fit and you don’t get the work.

Get over it, move on… or try to get another assessment with them and try again.

roughyed:
I went for an Assessment/Induction last Wed through NDS Agency.

I was taken through the whole process by a chap called Derek, and the driving part went well, apart from one or two minor errors, and at one point did 33mph in 30, which I corrected quickly. I was driving a new Actross, which I was unfamiliar with. This vehicle came with satellite control, which when switched to Aeconomy mode, will hold the gears on on incline so the driver will not be allowed to change down, and will drop it a gear when going down hill. All very technical,and all designed for max mpg. So all this was being explained to me whilst out on the road, and I found it useful.

On returning to the depot, I was told I had passed with a hight standard of driving, and not to let it slip.With that, now 2 hours into the assessment, I had to go through the induction part, covering the MAN’s and DAF’s, the trailers, Double Deckers, and other on site rules. Then the paperwork.All in all, I was there 4 hrs. I was told by Derek, I’ll email NDS to tell them you’ve passed, and good luck working here. I rang NDS and ttold them, they said leave it with us, and we’ll get you a start time for tomorrow.

After not hearing from them since, I rang them yesterday to see what was going on, to be told , we were told you have failed, so I informed them Derek had passed me. So NDS rang Yodel, and they were informed the Manager above Derek has failed me for “excessive speed”. The only time I broke the limit was doing 33 over 30, and it was rectified very quickly.

So that’s it for me, no more assessments and inductions. I’d rather go hungry than allow myself to be humiliated in this manner. This cost me a days wage last week to this requirement at Yodel. NDS didn’t seem to want to challenge the decision, just got the lackadaisical reply "there’s nothing we can do about it. NDS got the email the same day, and I find it disgraceful that they didn’t have the decency to inform me as soon as they new. For a driver with 37
yrs experience to pass me, with 25 yrs exp, then to be over ridden by a “manager”, is quite ridiculous.

As far as I’m concerned now, it’s Yodel’s loss.

I went for an assessment at TNT in Crawley a few weeks ago after a local agency told me this was one of their two biggest clients (the other being a pallet company). I had to take a day out of work to go through all their paperwork and lectures and take a test drive in their nice new Actroses. I passed the test, but had two days out of them – one being a Sunday run down to Eastbourne and back, the other being a night shift run to Tamworth. That night, I got off in good time and had to drop a trailer at Kingsbury and pick one up at Atherstone to go back to Crawley.

When I got to Kingsbury I dropped the trailer OK, but couldn’t find anywhere to park the tractor on site that didn’t risk getting blocked in, so I drove off and took my break at Tamworth services. I then headed for the Atherstone depot at the postcode I’d been given, which turned out to be a building in the centre of Atherstone which showed no signs of being a TNT building on a 7.5T weight limit section. I pulled over and Googled “TNT Atherstone” and found the correct postcode, headed back out and parked up on the outskirts of the depot as it was the only place there was a space. As it turned out, the trailer was already loaded and ready to go, so I went back out, hooked up and headed back down south. As I was leaving, I got a call asking where I was and I said I was three hours away, and was told I should be back in an hour. I told him the reasons and he basically said get back ASAP.

Anyway, the evening after, just as I was about to go off to work, I got a call from the agency saying I wasn’t needed because I’d been late back the previous day. I told them that there were a number of reasons and most of them weren’t my fault, but they still weren’t interested in having me back. And this was after they’d pestered me to take on work there all that week saying they were desperate, even though I had medical appointments on one of the days they wanted me to work.

I also went down for an assessment at Bleach of Lavant when I was still a class 2. No assessment as such, except for driving, but I think that bit went off fairly well. Never heard a word out of them again, and I’d travelled 50 miles to get to them. I also sent an updated application form after passing my class 1 (and after getting a bit of experience, including a Pallet Force run), and they didn’t even acknowledge it. Their pay rates aren’t that great, though, even for class 1, and I made it clear that if I was offered more, closer to home (highly likely), I’d take that.

The problem with assessments is not just that they take a day out of your working life which you don’t get paid for. It’s also that once you’ve done them, they will always want you to do that job even if you’re busy or have appointments or just don’t want to work for them, or work that day at all. Their other drivers can’t go in because they’ve not been to the assessment, and they blame you if you “let them down”. The odd thing is that it’s only big companies (TNT, Yodel, Norbert Dentressangle) that do this sort of thing.

Victa1:
Agencies are lying [zb] m8 , been there done it , I’ve not had an assessment but just dealt with agencies " yes come in today we will guarantee you work" and never hear from them again to this day I don’t know what that was about lol but hey ho . I know how it feels I was very near going to go through one of them , buts not worth it, Just dust your self down and bash on .

There are quite a few like that. Years ago when I was trying to get office work, I had agency staff tell me that they could get me loads of work but nothing ever happened. I sometimes wondered if they had some Arab shaikh keeping them in a job.

Do you have a DHL depot anywhere near? Yodel and DHL have the same roots, and I believe it may be possible to drive for DHL if you have passed an assessment at Yodel. Perhaps the same principle works in reverse and you could pass a DHL assessment to work at Yodel’s Shaw depot (or just work at DHL if you’ve gone off Yodel).

Perhaps worth investigating…

ORC:
Do you have a DHL depot anywhere near? Yodel and DHL have the same roots, and I believe it may be possible to drive for DHL if you have passed an assessment at Yodel. Perhaps the same principle works in reverse and you could pass a DHL assessment to work at Yodel’s Shaw depot (or just work at DHL if you’ve gone off Yodel).

Perhaps worth investigating…

I’m doing DHL work out of Stakehill on the TK Max contract. Passed their assessment with flying colours. Problem is with them is that they aren’t busy all week, usually Monday and Saturdays. I passed the NFT Assessment 5 months prior to that as well.

I sent an email to NDS shortly after I posted on here, and an hour later got a reply saying we’ll look into it and someone will contact you shortly. I’m still waiting for that call.

roughyed I bet the phone will ring when they’re short of drivers and all of a sudden it’ll be “we resolved the problem”… :sunglasses:

At least you don’t have to go to Oldham every day.
Every cloud and that.

Reading all this is so sad…and they say there is a shortage of British drivers ? ,and agencys are recruiting from abroad…just doesn’t add up or make sense. :cry:

halewood:
At least you don’t have to go to Oldham every day.
Every cloud and that.

With a name like roughyed I’m gonna guess he lives, or has very close ties to here…

Dunno if it is the same guy, but when it was Littlewoods they decided that everyone should undergo a assessment. They brought in a guy from Norfolk way, a carrot cruncher, think he was called Derek. Anyway he failed one guy and at the time you got a second chance, he failed again. He was not best pleased and told Derek he should take up masterbation for a hobby and that he had drove more miles in his car than Derek had driven a truck. Maybe that is why Derek dodged the bullet telling you straight to your face.
There was one lad who went out with him and was quite nervous, Derek told him to take it easy and just give him a safe drive, and if it helped he could have a cigarette. The guy immediately put his hand in his pocket pulled out his baccy tin and started to roll a ■■■ as he steered the truck thru shaws rush hour traffic with his elbows!!! He failed to.

tommie1shunt:
Dunno if it is the same guy, but when it was Littlewoods they decided that everyone should undergo a assessment. They brought in a guy from Norfolk way, a carrot cruncher, think he was called Derek. Anyway he failed one guy and at the time you got a second chance, he failed again. He was not best pleased and told Derek he should take up masterbation for a hobby and that he had drove more miles in his car than Derek had driven a truck. Maybe that is why Derek dodged the bullet telling you straight to your face.
There was one lad who went out with him and was quite nervous, Derek told him to take it easy and just give him a safe drive, and if it helped he could have a cigarette. The guy immediately put his hand in his pocket pulled out his baccy tin and started to roll a ■■■ as he steered the truck thru shaws rush hour traffic with his elbows!!! He failed to.

Were these new drivers or existing ones? If they decided their existing drivers had to pass an assessment to keep their jobs then I can understand him being ■■■■■■ off.

Years before I did my class 2, I was a driver’s mate doing furniture deliveries out in Essex and the driver pulled over on the A12 and rolled himself a spliff. He told a mate on the phone “I’m smaaaaaaassshed” so it was obvious that his behaviour was known about. Never worked there again (they were faff merchants, you’d turn up expecting to be driving a 7.5-tonner and they’d keep you waiting ages then send you out with their stoner class 2 driver - I wanted to know what I was doing before I set out).