waynedl:
'… You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear[/b].
You have automatically commited an offence if … The exit was not clear when you entered the yellow box junction…’
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Hmmm, if I can "reasonably anticipate the exit to be clear" then I crack-on as I was trained.
Short of being willingly obstructed by a bell-end, etc, (ie., which is arguably an action committed to one’s detriment & can be raised in defence should one get wrongly pinged) - then slowly progressing through the cross-hatching surely ticks all the boxes for a ticket-free day out.
Maybe anyone unaware of that ought to nobble their training herberts for an incomplete job done
There is a junction in Pontefract that has a couple of sets of lights with a box between them. The second set i.e. the one’s beyond the box change to red before the first set so if a car is in front of you and stops you end up with your rear end in the box.
waddy640:
‘…a couple of sets of lights with a box between them … so if a car is in front of you and stops you end up with your rear end in the box…’
Maybe buy-up the road and let all lights cycle until you’re the daddy at the front - and let those held up whinge to their council 
Surely the only flies in that ointment is plod (who’d surely not nobble for obstruction?) and being loathed even more (if that’s possibe?) by those commuting half a mile to shop…
waynedl:
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Box junctions. These have criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right. At signalled roundabouts you MUST NOT enter the box unless you can cross over it completely without stopping.
Law TSRGD regs 10(1) & 29(2)You have automatically commited an offence if
- The exit was not clear when you entered the yellow box junction
Doesn’t the bit in red contradict?? You can either block it or you can’t 
If you have junctions with two lanes one side merging into one lane on the other then you will always be disadvantaged. Cars will normally take up the bit of road you had your eye on.
The bickering about the law has no relevence.
Contest it, They drop it. It’s the same with jumping a red light, just contest it.
dri-diddly-iver:
waynedl:
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Box junctions. These have criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right. At signalled roundabouts you MUST NOT enter the box unless you can cross over it completely without stopping.
Law TSRGD regs 10(1) & 29(2)You have automatically commited an offence if
- The exit was not clear when you entered the yellow box junction
Doesn’t the bit in red contradict?? You can either block it or you can’t
No contradiction, really. What they are saying is that you may enter the box if there is space in your desired exit road so that you will be able to drive out again once any oncoming traffic has cleared (although this does rather assume that the oncoming drivers are also playing by the rules). The problem with doing this is that while you are waiting for the oncoming traffic to clear, some of them might turn left and fill up the free space in your desired exit road, leaving you with nowhere to go and sat there like a Patsy, waiting for the camera to take a nice picture of you…
Of course, if you were to get a ticket in such a situation, you would challenge it and when they checked the video footage they would see that when you entered the box your exit was indeed clear…?