HGV driver who ploughed into factory boss trying to photograph his number plate avoids jail
The news article has a video of the incident which for some reason isnāt showing in the link.
Someone who āgets frustratedā and uses a truck as a weapon is allowed to hold a vocational licence?
An operator could have their O-Licence revoked by the Traffic Commissioners for H&S issues. Being a goods vehicle operator: What happens if you break the terms of your licence - GOV.UK
But a driverās licence? Public Service (bus) licences seem to be covered, but not trucks? A Guide to Driver Conduct Hearings (English) - GOV.UK
Hopefully this video will work, also have a read of the comments, it would seem the driver wasnāt allowed to net the load whilst in the yard, he did and that annoyed the yard manager..
It appears from what is written that the company had a specific way to secure the load. The driver wanted to do it a different way. I have climbed over many loads many times to secures nets and sheets. I donāt think it is inherently dangerous.
But if a company has specific on site rules, and those rules are not dangerous, then I will follow those rules. I may think my way is quicker and easier, but so long as their way is safeā¦their train set etc.
Pushing a pedestrian with a truck is not the way to resolve an issue!
Stupid cyclist cuts you up? Slam into them! They deserve it!
No. Maybe they just want to get to school on time.
Iām sure most us us have been frustrated by companies health and safety rules at one time or anther but this was a really stupid way to react, hopefully it was a one off moment of frustration but as @franglais has hinted at drivers have to put up with all kinds of frustrations whilst driving.
Hereās the video.
Okā¦driver is a complete bell end for starters..end of.
The other guy equally so.
Why?ā¦
At the first sign this knob in the truck started to drive in to me Iād be diving out of the way on the deck like Nick Pope.
Way I see it he continues to stand in front of the truck rather than get tf out of the way asapā¦..āājust to prove his pointāā ??
Yep knob head risking death āājust to be rightāā.
1 Like
Orange man had said he was going to take a picture of the number plate so presumably he was looking at his phone preparing to take the picture when the vehicle suddenly moved forward, I donāt think he had time to move out of the way.
However a few seconds later he did have an opportunity to get out of the way and seemed quite slow to do so, having said that, itās not every day you get a 44 tonne artic deliberately trying to run over you soā¦
From the article.
The manager also said, at the end of his discussion with the driver, he intended to take a picture of Leyās number plate.
If you are being being shoved in one direction, you will need to keep moving in the direction you are being shoved to keep upright. Falling over could have been very, very, much worse.
Moving quickly at 90 degrees whilst also being shoved is not realistic IMHO.
The truck driver is a bell endā¦agreed.
End ofā¦agreed.
End of
Theyāre both di ckheads, but if the driver had any intent othe than proving a pointand intimidation, heād have driven far quicker.
The way I see itā¦
The driver deliberately moves to touch/shove the yardman with the truck.
It is not a gentle nudge-and-stop. Yard guy needs to move quick just to keep upright. So no chance to move sideways at that point.
Driver brakes hard. See the front dip. Arguably at that point the yard guy could have moved out of the way by exiting on the passenger side.
Maybe the yard guy thought the truck driver had only just seen him? Maybe he thought ā¦
ā¦
ā¦
what would you all think? ā¦
Maybe he thought āHe has seen me. He realises he has done something sillyā.
āI will go and have a quick and quiet word with himā¦ā
Maybe I will tell he is a silly billy
Truck driver = Bell End.
Yard man must have realised he was a bell end, but assumed he was a regular bell end, not a massive bell end.
1 Like
Reminds me of the Godstone Council depot manager who opened the cab door and dragged me out of a gritter Iād been sent to collect after stopping me at the gate.So quick I hadnāt had time to apply the hand brake but somehow I got it into neutral as I flew out the door and onto the ground.It then rolled back across the yard.
It all seems to have started when he shouted across the yard stop we need that and I replied along the lines of zb off itās July it aināt going to snow tonight and itās going in for a service.
I didnāt do what most drivers would have done I just reported the incident and the Council management backed ā¦ā¦.him not me.Elf and Safety 80ās style.
Iāve just checked Ibstock Brickās Operatorās Licence. They appear to have a restricted licence in six areas but only have around a dozen vehicles and no trailers at all, nor are there any Transport Managers listed. Nothing wrong with that.
I had been hoping to see how they specād their own trailers because that is a maximum weight load presumably which does not require the full deck space. If they ran their own artics I would have assumed they would have specified a shorter trailer to enable the load to rest against an EN 12642-XL headboard and still load the various axles legally, while also having compliant load securing anchorages for the product and whatever H&S equipment needed to allow a driver to access and work on the load platform.
Their H&S policy doesnāt seem to extend to turning away vehicles unsuitable to carry their product.
Had to Google nick pope as the only one I know investigated UFOās for the MOD
Yeah he does that on his days off from playing for Newcastle.
(I thought that was common knowledge.)
wee getting into tk.net csi here and i dont mean to however it doesnt matter when i am looking at if i am standing in front of a lorry and it starts up or i hear the airbrakes come off im getting the hell out the way before he has time to start revving.
amount of places i have been to and the walk way is inches away from the front of the cabs gives me the willies every time.
Good on you son , about time these pen pushers got their comeuppance , Iāve known some absolute headcases whoāve drove Lorrieās over the years , one who couldnāt get to his tri so pissed through letter box while giving the yard camera the middle finger , another who told boss either give me a reference or Iāll burn your house down , he got one straight away , and god knows how many car drivers havenāt got battered , Iāve had bosses whoāve been away for gbh , had some real laughs over the years on nights out , old pat the paddy couldnāt do a night out without a full scale bunch up , those really were the days , and 99% of the time the bosses would back you to the hilt , unlike the little ā ā ā ā ā you get residing in offices these days
Way things are these days.
No man management vast majority of people have no idea. Not helpful. Or come out with not in my job description or h&s wonāt allow it erc
Everyone is out for themselves want come in do as little as possible.
Far as top management go there out of sight and long as job gets done they donāt care how it happens as there hardly on the shop floor.
And sure office staff spend more time looking at Facebook etc instead of work related stuff.
And us being the driver usually gets the blame when things go wrong
Yep absolutely.
Then āmake your pointā and later āāshow him you are in the rightāā after you run after him before he goes through gate, and āāhelp him out of his cab āā to discuss the fact he tried to kill youā¦ā¦maybe even āreturn the complimentā.
As I said a PAIR of bell ends, one manic the other self righteous.
It looks like the pedestrian moved to the front to do something, possibly write down the veh number etc, rather than standing to,prevent it moving. But not read all the text story.