wheelnutt:
OVLOV JAY:
Berty:
Any company that pays less then £9 an hour wants be ashamed of themselves… do they not realise what it costs to get your licences these days…
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You’ve got the Eastern European revolution to thank for that, and some of the people that say we should stay in the eu, have the hypocrisy to moan about the wages 
You willing to pay 20-30% more for your weekly shop at Tesco? You willing to pay an extra 5k for you new car? You willing to pay an extra 3k a year in indirect tax?
You can’t have it both ways.
Yes you can. “Price Discovery” dictates that if you don’t like something “at that price” - you leave it. How long do you think Supermarkets could push 20-30% higher costs onto it’s customers before getting bogged down in a cut-price war that would waste over half of them out there?
With non-essential items - the option to “leave it” is even easier to do. I think new cars are too expensive for example, so I refuse to buy a new one unless I can get it for £5000 at current prices. I don’t gain or lose - but the car manufacturers who’ve failed to sell me a single new car in my entire life - lose whatever I’ve spent on old bangers over the years instead.
78% of our economy is generated by services, they sell to the EU from banking to insurance, we will lose half or so of those rights once we leave the EU, the French and Germans can’t wait to slap on some extra import tax for us to do what we do best, do you really reckon we can survive post referendum if we stick two fingers up to the rest of Europe? How many cars do you reckon we can sell to Germany post referendum? Don’t you think the Germans will protect their own industry and raise the import duties on our cars? How about the rest of our manufacturing? Do you really think that the French and the Italians will let us do what we do and sell to them being outside of the EU for the same price that we do now? Of course not, they will protect their own,.
That entire paragraph suggests you’ve been sucked into the Big EU bluff - that they really would cut off their noses to spite their faces. Britain is an island, and would benefit from shutting down some of it’s cross-land trade routes in favour of extra shipping routes instead. That would mean both less foreign trucks on our roads, more internal runaround work for British truckers, a LOT more work for our merchant navy - which few other EU countries have in any degree, and no obligation whatsoever to do any deals with the wider EU we don’t like the look of. If Germans want to stop flogging us cars and French flogging us wine - then there’s plenty of other places we can get those goods from instead. In no way do we ever need to pay a fine to get some trade route that actually loses us money in any case. We make money on our “rest of world” trade routes - but lose money on our EU trade routes. That suggests very much that we’d be better off without them altogether. Either we leave and possible destroy the EU - or we let the EU destroy Britain. It’s a failure for every nation that net contributes to it - except Germany. To even consider “remaining” would be like allying with Hitler in 1939 as our “response” to the Germany of the day invading Poland… Brexit is the UK gambling away the EU’s possible future - not ours! We’ve already got experience in running an empire - “Europe” keepS falling apart into petty wars each time a local power rises up and tries to “unite” the rest.
In Chinese Whisper terms the original feel of the public discontent has been lost in the white noise of the politically correct shouting over the thug class…
What started out as:-
“We disapprove of Illegal immigrants from outside the EU” has been morphing into…
“We dislike illegal immigrants”
“We dislike immigrants”
“We hate migrants”
“We hate Eastern Europeans”
when what we should really be saying is that “We fear Muslim illegal immigrants outbreeding us once they get over here”. How many unattached Muslim women come over here? - Very few. How many of those few marry a Non-Muslim White British Male? - Do any of them? How many Muslim Males from abroad get hitched to a non-Muslim white British female - and then insist that she convert to Islam though? Muslim conversions of Britons: Many. Conversions of incoming Muslims to - Close to None!
The Eastern Europeans, on the other hand, have NOTHING to do with all this - but end up getting all the flack that’s been bounced into them by the politically correct chattering classes using the “Chinese Whisper” style sequence I’ve listed above.
Leaving the EU is an idyllic notion, something that will make us feel good for a day or two until the realisation hits that we actually need the EU for our jobs and our exports.
It does seem idyllic at times to want to survive in the face of external threats on more than one front. Perhaps we should have surrendered to Germany when they succeeded in beating France in days…
The pundits for surrender could say “Britons will die in large numbers of we insist on continuing this war” or “Hitler has offered us a generous deal as part of a ceasefire accord” (which never got to see the light of day under “secrecy laws”) The difference between then and now - is that back then we had Chamberlain fighting for “peace in our time” which completely failed. He left, was replaced by Churchill, and the rest is history.
If Brexit do not win this referendum, it’s only a matter of days until some EU twit provokes a public breakdown in this country - and we’ll all realize albeit too late - that Outgoing cameron has done more to propel us towards WWIII than anyone else on Earth. Why? - Because by this point - we will be faced with the choice of “Fight to get out now we’ve given our right away to leave democratically” or "Let the EU demonstrate what “hate ■■■■” is all about - by further elevating our elites, whilst pushing ever further down our working classes. Dominance of the MegaCompanies will be just the start of it.
I have a family member who works pretty high up in a US bank in the City and she has been send an email stating that they would move to Frankfurt on the 25th if we vote out, there are 32,000 in her department, yes thirty two thousand. The services industry would be decimated and be very careful before you gloat, that is 78% of our GDP, we would lose millions of jobs, just so we can restrict some Romanians from importing our wanted goods and dropping them into our local Tesco RDC.
Our vote should be based upon our own personal circumstances. If you’re living it up large right now, and have been since the Credit Crunch - then sure! - It’s your own nest that’s been feathered, so go on right ahead and vote Remain. If your life has been “less than top hole” though? - It’s your public duty to vote Brexit - because no one else will help you if you fail to help yourself with this last opportunity that will likely be offered in our lifetimes.
