Lonewolf Yorks:
OK I’m in my 3rd week back after having avoided artics for nearly 5 years. Fortunately its a tramping job so I don’t have to visit RDCs.
But how things seem to have changed even in that short time.
Flashing in. I seem to wait in vain for a flash to tell me I’m safely clear of the wagon I’ve overtaken.
CB radios. Doesn’t anyone use them any more. All I’m getting on the 19 is foreign bloody chat
I thought we had 2 million unemployed. In that case how come just about every forklift driver I’ve had so far has been some foreign [zb]■■
I’m sure I’ll have a few more by the end of the week.
Easy first day then
Just wait until you get the [zb]s holding you out in the outside lane, whilst you try and overtake them Oh, I could go on, but best you find out for yourself.
No such thing as a lorry driver these days, they are all steering wheel attendants with small willy`s
I’ve just fitted a cb and I too noticed how quiet it is on there. Unless of course you’re passing Doncaster where council house FM is still alive and well. Bless 'em, they’ll probably go too once they discover mobile phones and sit on myfacebook.
Lonewolf Yorks:
…Flashing in. I seem to wait in vain for a flash to tell me I’m safely clear of the wagon I’ve overtaken…
I thought that you are called proffesional driver that should [zb] know the lenght of his bloody truck
Hope not to meet you OTR
I look on flashing in as the lorry being overtaken signalling that they are happy with the space and for you to come back in. This is not something that can be known by the overtaker - they may require more room due to load, brake efficiency etc. It’s not just a case of knowing how long your truck is - but it takes a professional driver to consider that …
Lonewolf Yorks:
…Flashing in. I seem to wait in vain for a flash to tell me I’m safely clear of the wagon I’ve overtaken…
I thought that you are called proffesional driver that should [zb] know the lenght of his bloody truck
Hope not to meet you OTR
I think it’s drivers like you that are bringing the industry down. I am very aware of the length of an artic but I still like a flash in. I see it as a “I’m happy with the distance between me and you now so you can come in”. Same as how I flash everyone in (rigids, artics and coaches) once they are at a distance which I’m comfortable with them coming in that I won’t have to adjust my speed.
It’s courtesy and acknowledgement more than anything else, like a friendly wave or a fellow driver saying “alright mate” to another.
As I see myself as a “Professional” who is very aware of the length of his bloody truck, if I do meet you OTR I will now happily come in early without making contact but sure to put the ■■■■ up you. Maybe that will match your arrogance.
Lonewolf Yorks:
OK I’m in my 3rd week back after having avoided artics for nearly 5 years. Fortunately its a tramping job so I don’t have to visit RDCs.
dont expect not to visit an rdc just because your a tramper
But how things seem to have changed even in that short time.
Flashing in. I seem to wait in vain for a flash to tell me I’m safely clear of the wagon I’ve overtaken.
you will have to wait for hell to freeze over before anyone flashes you.
CB radios. Doesn’t anyone use them any more. All I’m getting on the 19 is foreign bloody chat
what era are you in. no one communicates anymore cos their to busy on their mobile phone.
I thought we had 2 million unemployed. In that case how come just about every forklift driver I’ve had so far has been some foreign [zb]■■
there is 2 million unemployed but the problem is, we are now the foreigner in our own country.
I’m sure I’ll have a few more by the end of the week.
youve not even hit the tip of the iceberg yet.
and remember the 1 golden rule
most of us on here hate stobarts lol
Is the flash simply to inform them their rear end is clear
OR
Is the flash to tell them they can pull in front now
I seem to remember a short time ago that its generally the second reason and most never get to do that flash because the overtaker starts to pull in before the minimum safety gap has been reached !!
Those that don’t bother flashing it’s simple, they are lazy ■■■■■■■■■ dress it up how you wish, should know the length etc, but it is what it is. They are the same type that don’t clean the cab out or park like stevie wonder in an MSA. Wait until you see some of the other crap.
As for CB I’ve never had one and probably, no definitely never will. I don’t like to talk to people in the yard let alone anyone else.
The reason we have 2 million unemployed is because the foreigners are doing the flt stuff at a cheaper rate. Also see 1 above. The economy is in the crapper because they don’t spend their cash here but send it back to some former soviet block country or something ending in stan.
I drive my van to work and it is an old horse so dont speed much around 50/55mph on the motorway.
But whenever a vehicle does pass me be it a coach,7.5,rigid or an artic i always flash them to let them know they have passed me.
I do exactly the same when i am driving my artic.
i do not expect to be flashed in because as they say it is the pleasure of giving not receiving but if i do then i always reply with a quick flash of the indicators.
I`am very very afraid bad manners exist in all walks of life now , from what I have observed its naff to show anything remotely resembling good manners .
shugg:
I`am very very afraid bad manners exist in all walks of life now , from what I have observed its naff to show anything remotely resembling good manners .
90% of my “trucking” (in quotes as its only a couple of 7.5t DAF’s) is done in France and if you think the standards have dropped in the Uk then wait till you see the continent…well France anyway
I always find it quite refreshing when i bring one of the wagons back to the UK…reminds me that us “brits” are still quite civilised after all.
Coach drivers rarely seem to acknowledge a “flash-in” though…be it in France or the Uk…why is that,?
Lonewolf Yorks:
…Flashing in. I seem to wait in vain for a flash to tell me I’m safely clear of the wagon I’ve overtaken…
I thought that you are called proffesional driver that should [zb] know the lenght of his bloody truck
Hope not to meet you OTR
With 25 years on the road I think I’m doing ok. And the others have said I flash when I’m happy that the overtaking vehicle will not be unsafely close to me. My criterion for that is when I can see his entire back end in my windscreen as opposed to the side window.
The fact that some pull in early is cos they are naturally concerned ny the amount of time spent overtaking due to the speed limiter.
The headlight/tailight signalling has its roots way back to the ‘Black n White’ days, when mirrors were not even big enough to shave in, lorries drove at many different speeds, mainly very slowly and the roads were again mainly single carriageway. It was also done with a bumper mounted spotlight, no main beam in those days and the headlights didn’t exactly do a lot. The reply was with the tail lights, no other lights anyway! Not like todays over used hazard light flashing that seems to have taken over.
During darkness slower vehicles that had a quicker motor knocking on their back door would flash the spotlight letting the driver behind know it was safe for him to pass, he carried out the manouvre and when the overtaking vehicle was clear, the slower driver would flash the spot again a couple of times so the overtaking driver would know it was safe to move in. A thankyou was given by the now leading driver by turning his tail lights on and off in sequance as Off, On, Off, On Off, On, a bit like a morse code dot dot dot dash dash dot. The practise was just carried over to the daytime as it proved to be a safe method of overtaking and communicating.
Alas as the years passed and mirrors got bigger as well as drivers ego’s and people generally cared less for each other anyway the proper method and reasons for such fell by the way side. So in short like many of the things goods drivers do there is a reason somewhere and some are not done anymore because it isn’t necessary in the modern world and some practises still carried out are changed slightly simply because the real reasons have not been passed on or understood. Its a shame that this particular tradition is dying out, after all it doesn’t take too much effort in that 600 HP super heated/ air conned, mobile office with more lights on it than Blackpool Tower.
Good luck Wolfie hope your fresh start doesn’t get dashed, keep doing it the way you did before!
Franky.
Lonewolf Yorks:
…Flashing in. I seem to wait in vain for a flash to tell me I’m safely clear of the wagon I’ve overtaken…
I thought that you are called proffesional driver that should [zb] know the lenght of his bloody truck
Hope not to meet you OTR
Unfortunately the type of driver I am, meets the type of driver you are, “OTR” everyday, your selfish inconsiderate “I’m ok so [zb] you” type of attitude has become more and more prevelant over the years. There are a lot of “drivers” today who are genuinely convinced that they, “know the length of his bloody truck” …but go on to prove they know jack[zb] after they nearly force you into the hard shoulder and they are one degree up on the “■■■■■■■■■ scale” to the smartarses who display the type of attitude on the road that you have outlined.
and they are one degree up on the “■■■■■■■■■ scale” to the smartarses who display the type of attitude on the road that you have outlined.