Wtd nights

Does anyone know the rules regards working nights.
As have heard rumours we may be starting a night run on a Rota basis.

What’s the rules.
Sure I heard it’s 10 hours.
And if so is that 10 hours shift total.?
Or 10 hours working breaks poa etc don’t count as working?

edd1974:
Does anyone know the rules regards working nights.
As have heard rumours we may be starting a night run on a Rota basis.

What’s the rules.
Sure I heard it’s 10 hours.
And if so is that 10 hours shift total.?
Or 10 hours working breaks poa etc don’t count as working?

Without a work force opt out agreement it is 10 hours max drive/other work time total so the whole shift could be 15 hours

10 hrs WORKING TIME not duty time.

It can be opted out of by collective agreement.

toonsy:
10 hrs WORKING TIME not duty time.

It can be opted out of by collective agreement.

Does that work for smaller firms?. As where I work there’s only 4 of us work there that drive. And 2 blokes lockup unit.

About year ago we had change of ownership.
And new owner no seems to be going along the route or hiring us out/subcontracting us to xpo bibbys etc

Instead of doing customer contract work we do

And have heard he’s in talks about possible subcontracting to someone who wants a night run

Hope it fails as not keen on doing nights
Even on a Rota

If 2 drivers are in your work force then that is your total work force

The regs as a whole are pretty useless in preventing drivers spending too much time at work but the 10 hour nights rule deserves a special mention for being a higher level of useless.

The whole 10 hours nights thing is a waste of time much like the rest of WTD. No one enforces it and most people are on nights to earn more money so aren’t bothered. Not even sure who you’d complain to if the agreement isn’t in place.

You do not want to be doing nights on a rota! Nights is a separate shift from days and takes a little while to get your body clock round to (often a week). Some people can never get used to it.

Switching from days to nights and back will screw your body clock totally and theres a higher chance you’ll end up falling asleep at the wheel.

Just remind the bosses they have legal duty of care and if you fall asleep, crash and injure someone or yourself, HSE, CPS and traffic commissioner are not going to be happy if you were constantly tired due to messing your shifts around. If they fancy corporate manslaughter charges, unlimited fines and lpss of o’licence, go for it.

(Yeah ok its the extreme end, but sometimes you need to do that to wake these idiot money-grabbing
type bosses up).