Just wanted some clarification on whether I have got this right. It isn’t a problem when I do my 4.5hrs driving but if I did a twelve hour day would the following be ok relating to WTD breaks?
Start -1600
Drive 2hrs (1800)
Other work 3 hours (2100)
Break 30 mins (2100-2130)
So now I’ve had a 30 min break does this mean I can go for another 6 hours before break (0330)? Usually I would hit my four and a half before this time anyway. But just wanted to make sure that’s correct!
i am not mistaken it has to be another 15 mins if the shif is 6-9 hts long and another 15 if more than 9.
Priest:
i am not mistaken it has to be another 15 mins if the shif is 6-9 hts long and another 15 if more than 9.
See I didn’t think it did as it is in increments of 15 and I have already had 30 not 15 for my 6hours. So I thought this covers me for the 6-9 rule. Assuming you can take 30 minutes and be good for up to another 6hours
you have had your 30 min break that covers the first 9 hours. By the end of your 12th hour you need to have another 15 mins
that;s how i read it: second page - gov.uk/government/uploads/s … orkers.pdf
PS corrected myself
Michael Douglas:
Just wanted some clarification on whether I have got this right. It isn’t a problem when I do my 4.5hrs driving but if I did a twelve hour day would the following be ok relating to WTD breaks?Start -1600
Drive 2hrs (1800)
Other work 3 hours (2100)
Break 30 mins (2100-2130)So now I’ve had a 30 min break does this mean I can go for another 6 hours before break (0330)? Usually I would hit my four and a half before this time anyway. But just wanted to make sure that’s correct!
Ignoring the need for any driving breaks, yes you can work another six hours before needing another WTD break, in fact it would be the same if you had a 15 minute break instead of the 30 minutes.
The six hour rule requires you to have a break of at-least 15 minutes before exceeding six hours working time, as the shift is more than nine hours working time you will need a total of 45 minutes break so you could have 15 minutes then another 30 minutes later, this would also count as a split driving break (assuming the break qualify).
Be aware though that breaks at the immediate start and end of the shift do not count for the WTD.
I thought there areimits on . Night time working g unlesss they use Ltd drivers.I also understood its illegal for agency workers to do. Nights .though I’ve never seen any adhere to regulations
mercury:
I thought there areimits on . Night time working g unlesss they use Ltd drivers.I also understood its illegal for agency workers to do. Nights .though I’ve never seen any adhere to regulations
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Mobile worker regs .all night staff should be employed and have a medical
Then shift lengths are also restricted except for the cowboys who play agencykill.have a look round the site u will see fully grown men supposed pillars of the industry ripping agency so they will do nights .even though its against the law do they care .na
mercury:
Mobile worker regs .all night staff should be employed and have a medical
There’s no such rule, the mobile workers working time regulations don’t differentiate between directly employed drivers and self employed drivers doing night work.
If my memory serves me correctly the working time regulations 1998 say that night workers should be entitled to a free health assessment on regular intervals but doesn’t say every night worker must have a medical.
mercury:
Then shift lengths are also restricted except for the cowboys who play agencykill.have a look round the site u will see fully grown men supposed pillars of the industry ripping agency so they will do nights .even though its against the law do they care .na
Night time workers are limited to 10 hours working time in the 24 hour period unless there’s an opt out agreement in place.
There’s plenty of drivers, directly employed and self employed and agency drivers, who have opted out of the night time working limit.
Yes its a condition to run bent apparently .ifu don’t opt out u dnt get a job .standard
And they wonder why bin lorries kill 6 ppl
I regularly do 13-15 hour night shifts (14 last night) and I rarely ever get tired behind the wheel.
In fact, I get more tired doing early starts. Every single time I’ve pulled on to the services coz I couldn’t stay awake has been on an early to mid morning start.
Night time workers must be employed .no agency .this creates the friction as the dark men say why am I doing nights and he gets Mon Fri guaranteed .I’m not up on regs tbh .I gave up learning after the abs debacle .you’ll find operators see these regs as an obstacle.not a requirement
mercury:
Night time workers must be employed .no agency
Where is that written 
- apart from in your quote
Employment regulations for night workers
There’s nothing in any regulations that stipulates night workers have to be directly employed, but if you can provide a link to these regulations fair play to you 
It probably says something like - employed workers may … which if it does includes those employed by agencies
I await the link to see if I am correct …
There was a difference for mobile and static workers .this is why smaller none REC agency sub to rec ones as I understood .I’m not preaching .seeking clarification
mercury:
There was a difference for mobile and static workers .this is why smaller none REC agency sub to rec ones as I understood .I’m not preaching .seeking clarification
Got a link or a quote please ?