mither40:
Just like being at home!!!
Thing is… being on the rd every day we c same type of mistakes day in day out its just a laff 2 us but shocking 2 sum1 who c it 4 1st time and we all tarred with same brush!
Know what i mean?
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Not sure what you mean by “Just like being at home”?
As for the rest - yes, I can decode the txt-spk and understand exactly what you are saying. But I certainly can’t accept it. How can it ever be “Just a laugh” when a ‘professional driver’ (or even a ■■■■■■■ amateur one!) takes a roundabout in the wrong direction? Would it be “just a laugh” if the same plank forgot to set the parking brake? Or forgot to check that the trailer was correctly coupled?
■■■■! And I’m not on about a veteran of HM Armed Forces…
I am speaking from experience as I have never found one ex army trained driver who could drive to the standards of any of my civilian trained drivers.
It depends on the definition of army ‘trained driver’.IE plenty of squaddies are trained to a minimal level ‘to drive’.That’s not the same thing as an army ‘driver’ by trade having specialised and been posted to the logistics corps.The difference could mean anything from,what would have been,just the old class 3 level on an occasional basis and then upgrading to class 1 when they’ve left.To someone who is familiar with driving things like eight wheeler drawbar outfits and tank transporters on an every day basis during their service.The latter obviously being much rarer than the former.
Was I the only one who noticed how defensive Paul Day of Turnips was in saying ‘English National ex army’
As if he knows his company is absolutely full of foreigners and he thought folks would automatically assume an Eastern European driver (Rightly, it seems!)
claretmatt:
Was I the only one who noticed how defensive Paul Day of Turnips was in saying ‘English National ex army’
As if he knows his company is absolutely full of foreigners and he thought folks would automatically assume an Eastern European driver
It would be fair to question the stupid deceiving road layout regardless of where the driver comes from.Simple questions like why haven’t the council maintained the road markings and why stop the solid unbroken lines long before the roundabout instead of continuing them to the keep left island for two examples.
claretmatt:
Was I the only one who noticed how defensive Paul Day of Turnips was in saying ‘English National ex army’
As if he knows his company is absolutely full of foreigners and he thought folks would automatically assume an Eastern European driver
It would be fair to question the stupid deceiving road layout regardless of where the driver comes from.Simple questions like why haven’t the council maintained the road markings and why stop the solid unbroken lines long before the roundabout instead of continuing them to the keep left island for two examples.
Exactly, or they could provide a roundabout valet service. The operatives could wait in bus stop type shelters or even those red and white stripey tents that BT put over manholes when they’re working down below. Said gadgies could then hope in the passing lorries and direct the drivers around the roundabout in the correct direction.
Kerragy:
Exactly, or they could provide a roundabout valet service. The operatives could wait in bus stop type shelters or even those red and white stripey tents that BT put over manholes when they’re working down below. Said gadgies could then hope in the passing lorries and direct the drivers around the roundabout in the correct direction.
I could actually picture the council thinking the valet service would be cheaper than painting some decent clear road markings.
hmmm - I’m still thinking it looks quite like a roundabout, there’s a few clues on the approach google street view
Im just curious about the re-training and what it will entail - will they show him lots of pictures of roundabouts? I bet he feels like a prize one idiot - LOL. I wouldn’t haver thought retraining was necessary, he will never make that mistake again as long as he lives.
It may be best you aren’t on the road anymore Carry old fruit if you can’t tell the difference between a bend and a roundabout when the markings are a little worn. Its a roundabout, very clearly a roundabout and anyone who thinks otherwise should at the least have an eye test. If it was a foreigner you’d all be ripping him to bits despite if anything a foreigner having more of an excuse to get mixed up
switchlogic:
It may be best you aren’t on the road anymore Carry old fruit if you can’t tell the difference between a bend and a roundabout when the markings are a little worn. Its a roundabout, very clearly a roundabout and anyone who thinks otherwise should at the least have an eye test. If it was a foreigner you’d all be ripping him to bits despite if anything a foreigner having more of an excuse to get mixed up
We know it’s a bleedin roundabout. What isn’t so clear is the layout of the approach to it by which time it was probably too late for the unfortunate miscreant in this case.Because firstly the muppets at the council haven’t maintained even the road markings they’ve got let alone marked it out properly by continuing the solid lines from the bridge up to the Island. As for foreigners even more reason to mark out the approach to the roundabout properly.
Bearing in mind it wasn’t actually me who went round the thing the wrong way having obviously got on the wrong side of the road on the approach to it.
Carryfast:
It looks a bit different at this point.
I disagree. You are probably higher up in a wagon than in the picture, so you should have a slightly better view. And the chevron markings around the base of the roundabout are shouting in that photo if you take my drift…
Brain-freeze, just an error in judgement, imo. He was going slowly enough to have stopped pretty quickly, luckily no one was approaching from the other side.
switchlogic:
It may be best you aren’t on the road anymore Carry old fruit if you can’t tell the difference between a bend and a roundabout when the markings are a little worn. Its a roundabout, very clearly a roundabout and anyone who thinks otherwise should at the least have an eye test. If it was a foreigner you’d all be ripping him to bits despite if anything a foreigner having more of an excuse to get mixed up
We know it’s a bleedin roundabout. What isn’t so clear is the layout of the approach to it by which time it was probably too late for the unfortunate miscreant in this case.Because firstly the muppets at the council haven’t maintained even the road markings they’ve got let alone marked it out properly by continuing the solid lines from the bridge up to the Island. As for foreigners even more reason to mark out the approach to the roundabout properly.
Bearing in mind it wasn’t actually me who went round the thing the wrong way having obviously got on the wrong side of the road on the approach to it.
I know it’s not you silly, you can’t drive a truck (anymore) .You are however making excuses for this incredibly poor bit of driving which would lead me to question your judgement. A roundabout is such an obvious feature the road could be devoid of all markings and signs and it would still be bleeding obvious
Number one, nobody had given him orders concerning which direction to travel on the roundabout.
Number two, he may have had a job in the army where direction didn’t matter. Who is going to argue with a Challenger 2 whatever side of rhe road it drives on? If his job involved cutting the wire on the right or the left then he probably should have paid more attention to that part when training.
Carryfast:
It looks a bit different at this point.
I disagree. You are probably higher up in a wagon than in the picture, so you should have a slightly better view. And the chevron markings around the base of the roundabout are shouting in that photo if you take my drift…
Brain-freeze, just an error in judgement, imo. He was going slowly enough to have stopped pretty quickly, luckily no one was approaching from the other side.
There are no ‘chevrons at the base of any roundabout’ at that point because the traffic island isn’t even a factor at that point let alone the roundabout.What the driver needs to know there is the design of the ‘approach’ to the roundabout which is where he went wrong.At which the worn out multiple broken lines obviously create confusion compared to keeping them solid all the way from the bridge to the island.
Carryfast:
We know it’s a bleedin roundabout. What isn’t so clear is the layout of the approach to it by which time it was probably too late for the unfortunate miscreant in this case.Because firstly the muppets at the council haven’t maintained even the road markings they’ve got let alone marked it out properly by continuing the solid lines from the bridge up to the Island. As for foreigners even more reason to mark out the approach to the roundabout properly.
Bearing in mind it wasn’t actually me who went round the thing the wrong way having obviously got on the wrong side of the road on the approach to it.
I know it’s not you silly, you can’t drive a truck (anymore) .You are however making excuses for this incredibly poor bit of driving which would lead me to question your judgement. A roundabout is such an obvious feature the road could be devoid of all markings and signs and it would still be bleeding obvious
We know it’s a dodgy piece of driving IE if in doubt stop.But you still seem to be missing the point that the problem wasn’t that he went round the roundabout the wrong way it’s that he ended up on the wrong side of the road on ‘the approach to it’.Which obviously would have been less likely ‘if’ the council had spent a few bob on some clearly painted solid lines continuing from the bridge to the island at the roundabout.
Kerragy:
Number one, nobody had given him orders concerning which direction to travel on the roundabout.
Number two, he may have had a job in the army where direction didn’t matter. Who is going to argue with a Challenger 2 whatever side of rhe road it drives on? If his job involved cutting the wire on the right or the left then he probably should have paid more attention to that part when training.
Advance until ordered to stop even if you know there is a mine field and an anti tank battery ahead.
.You are however making excuses for this incredibly poor bit of driving which would lead me to question your judgement. A roundabout is such an obvious feature the road could be devoid of all markings and signs and it would still be bleeding obvious