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CO2 didn’t cook Venus atmospheric pressure and proximity to the Sun did.Which means that the whole ‘climate change’ script is a lie.
Fossil fuel free electric generation means burning trees instead of coal and gas and covering fields needed for food in solar panels destroying the root structure meaning soil erosion and the risk of nuclear disaster at 26p per kwh + road fuel taxes + the cost of batteries.
As opposed to 12-18p per kwh including road fuel taxes for diesel.
How would overhead power lines provide for route and location flexibility.
So all the downsides of rail with none of the upsides of road at the risk of turning the country into a nuked dustbowl at around twice the cost for the privilege to solve a non existent problem.
All to provide a captive market, for a bunch of profiteering, anything but green, scammers.
I’ve seen the adverts for the Mercedes Actros rigid and Arctic, 4x2 and 6x2. The 6x2 electric rigid was a reefer so it will be interesting to see how well that actually keeps things down to -25 in the freezer compartment and +2 in the chiller compartment.
If it can actually achieve its target, over the course of an eight hour day, I’m pretty sure that our company would get at least one for our depot. But it would need a dedicated charging spot, and space is at a premium at the depot.
In all of the adverts I have seen, they have touted the electric viability of the truck but talked nothing about the reefer.
Won’t work in Britain with our ‘Greedy Trailers’
In Mainland Europe all trailers are standardised at 4m High - in the UK Trailers are as high as you can get away with, hence so many bridge strikes with trailers up to 5.03m
Carryfast:
CO2 didn’t cook Venus atmospheric pressure and proximity to the Sun did.Which means that the whole ‘climate change’ script is a lie.
Fossil fuel free electric generation means burning trees instead of coal and gas and covering fields needed for food in solar panels destroying the root structure meaning soil erosion and the risk of nuclear disaster at 26p per kwh + road fuel taxes + the cost of batteries.
As opposed to 12-18p per kwh including road fuel taxes for diesel.
How would overhead power lines provide for route and location flexibility.
So all the downsides of rail with none of the upsides of road at the risk of turning the country into a nuked dustbowl at around twice the cost for the privilege to solve a non existent problem.
All to provide a captive market, for a bunch of profiteering, anything but green, scammers.
Absolutely.
Last year there was the least pollution chucked out ever by humans due to Covid.
Last year had the highest increase in “greenhouse gases” ever recorded.
It’s all ■■■■■■■■ designed to create a huge need for electric. Folk will have to pay whatever is being asked because there wont be any alternative. Your very being will need electric…
And we all know what happens to prices when there’s high demand…
All this is of course in addition to he fact electric trucks will never work.
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I read am article and.posted it on here ages ago.
There are plans to build some.of this overhead wire system as a trial in the Doncaster area
Truckulent:
It’s all [zb] designed to create a huge need for electric. Folk will have to pay whatever is being asked because there wont be any alternative. Your very being will need electric…
Women have been using Electric for their Rabbits for many years now - AIUI there have been few complaints of lack of satisfaction
edd1974 Overhead wire system? They were called Trolley Buses. Hence we had Conductors on buses.
Operators can’t even be trusted to keep their trucks roadworthy 
. Can you imagine if one of them started neglecting the maintenance of that lift mechanism or something. Would be a very expensive issue. Also would have live wires on the motorway.
The idea that they create all this and then still replace “fuel tax”. It’s abhorrent
adam277:
Operators can’t even be trusted to keep their trucks roadworthy
You have live wires on an overhead electrified railway dont you?
Think it is an interesting idea, maybe combined with bio fuel diesel so eventually all motorways and trunk roads have OHLE (overhead line equipment).
Pre-start checks intersting though. Cant check the pan(tograph) until under a wired bit ! Might make elf and safety wallahs have a fit at dealerships with OHLE testing area though.
flammen:
The idea that they create all this and then still replace “fuel tax”. It’s abhorrent
According to the plan for rail there won’t be any place for max weight artic operations anyway, even if the economy could sustain the resulting electric costs at 26p per kwh + the equivalent of fuel duty + 20% VAT.
Trolley buses were abolished because their operating costs were unsustainable including infrastructure costs.
Sand Fisher:
adam277:
Operators can’t even be trusted to keep their trucks roadworthyYou have live wires on an overhead electrified railway dont you?
Think it is an interesting idea, maybe combined with bio fuel diesel so eventually all motorways and trunk roads have OHLE (overhead line equipment).
Pre-start checks intersting though. Cant check the pan(tograph) until under a wired bit ! Might make elf and safety wallahs have a fit at dealerships with OHLE testing area though.
True and accidents still occur though. This one is not really related at all lol.
But it is an interesting read.
hse.gov.uk/agriculture/expe … -power.htm
Carryfast:
flammen:
The idea that they create all this and then still replace “fuel tax”. It’s abhorrentAccording to the plan for rail there won’t be any place for max weight artic operations anyway, even if the economy could sustain the resulting electric costs at 26p per kwh + the equivalent of fuel duty + 20% VAT.
Trolley buses were abolished because their operating costs were unsustainable including infrastructure costs.
Well largely speaking we already have what this video is trying to create and its called “THE TRAIN”
Interesting watching all the new(old) ideas as we work out what comes next.
flammen:
Carryfast:
Trolley buses were abolished because their operating costs were unsustainable including infrastructure costs.Well largely speaking we already have what this video is trying to create and its called “THE TRAIN”
Not much use if you want to deliver a truck load from east to west of the country.
No good for even Peterborough to Reading let alone Norwich to Bristol as a passenger without a lot of aggro.
Also limited to intermodal transhipment depots near to rail routes.
Which leaves the question how many ‘drivers’ want to enter the industry to have a career limited to local deliveries and collections mainly to serve the rail transport industry, or at least not allowed to compete with it.This is really what’s behind the ‘driver shortage’ if any.
My bet is that pure economics when they do the maths will eventually stop all this idiocracy.
If not a major nuclear disaster in trying to fuel it and failing catastrophically.
At which point the Greta’s and the Attenboroughs and Bozo’s and Daveys will be running off shouting not our fault.
Carryfast:
flammen:
Carryfast:
Trolley buses were abolished because their operating costs were unsustainable including infrastructure costs.Well largely speaking we already have what this video is trying to create and its called “THE TRAIN”
Not much use if you want to deliver a truck load from east to west of the country.
No good for even Peterborough to Reading let alone Norwich to Bristol as a passenger without a lot of aggro.
Also limited to intermodal transhipment depots near to rail routes.
Which leaves the question how many ‘drivers’ want to enter the industry to have a career limited to local deliveries and collections mainly to serve the rail transport industry, or at least not allowed to compete with it.This is really what’s behind the ‘driver shortage’ if any.
My bet is that pure economics when they do the maths will eventually stop all this idiocracy.
If not a major nuclear disaster in trying to fuel it and failing catastrophically.
At which point the Greta’s and the Attenboroughs and Bozo’s and Daveys will be running off shouting not our fault.
I’m enjoying the latest fiction you’ve made up to excuse a disappointing career. Makes a welcome change from the obsession with chosen ones. As you were.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
flammen:
Well largely speaking we already have what this video is trying to create and its called “THE TRAIN”Not much use if you want to deliver a truck load from east to west of the country.
No good for even Peterborough to Reading let alone Norwich to Bristol as a passenger without a lot of aggro.
Also limited to intermodal transhipment depots near to rail routes.
Which leaves the question how many ‘drivers’ want to enter the industry to have a career limited to local deliveries and collections mainly to serve the rail transport industry, or at least not allowed to compete with it.This is really what’s behind the ‘driver shortage’ if any.
My bet is that pure economics when they do the maths will eventually stop all this idiocracy.
If not a major nuclear disaster in trying to fuel it and failing catastrophically.
At which point the Greta’s and the Attenboroughs and Bozo’s and Daveys will be running off shouting not our fault.I’m enjoying the latest fiction you’ve made up
Which part is fiction and why.
How are you going to route a load from Norwich or Hull to Reading or Bristol by rail.
How many drivers want to enter the industry for a career of just local deliveries/collections.
What’s it all going to cost either way at 26p per kwh + the lost road fuel duty and 20% VAT.
Nuclear energy has no credible place for civil use.
Mostly because of its potential long term lethality, which is what makes it such a formidable weapons system/deterrent and secondly its cost.
Carryfast:
flammen:
Carryfast:
Trolley buses were abolished because their operating costs were unsustainable including infrastructure costs.Well largely speaking we already have what this video is trying to create and its called “THE TRAIN”
Not much use if you want to deliver a truck load from east to west of the country.
No good for even Peterborough to Reading let alone Norwich to Bristol as a passenger without a lot of aggro.
Also limited to intermodal transhipment depots near to rail routes.
Which leaves the question how many ‘drivers’ want to enter the industry to have a career limited to local deliveries and collections mainly to serve the rail transport industry, or at least not allowed to compete with it.This is really what’s behind the ‘driver shortage’ if any.
My bet is that pure economics when they do the maths will eventually stop all this idiocracy.
If not a major nuclear disaster in trying to fuel it and failing catastrophically.
At which point the Greta’s and the Attenboroughs and Bozo’s and Daveys will be running off shouting not our fault.
No. The system they have limits these trucks to stay on a singular route to draw from grid power the whole way and never needing to stop. This is literally what a train is.
It even specified in the video they’ll never be able to remove smaller journeys from diesel truck usage.
Think rail is vastly underrated on the basis that passenger experience is ■■■■ poor.
I hate trains in all honesty, but they server a purpose and one of those is the transport of goods. Just like planes. Accepting that doesn’t take the importance away from the HGV and LGV. You could deliver the worlds goods with just trucks, you couldn’t with just trains, and everybody knows that. But the point is, the system in this video with a pantograph system is literally a train only a train they don’t have to build the infrastructure… cos its already there…
Lot of city’s now have trams that run along roads. Surley these trucks could use. There wires?
And personally don’t know why the don’t put sat panels of top of every trailer harness the power of the sun