No, and if I see yet another pic of ‘Lafarge’ with a pint pot in his hand the telly screen is in imminent danger of damage! 
Pete.
Did YOU spill my pint?
Terry T:
Why shouldn’t you vote UKIP ?
Tell me why I should vote for a single issue party that makes promises it knows it won’t have to honour.
Yawn…
Cotswoldcrunch:
For those who say no, are you pro Europe?
Yes very much so.
Winseer:
mike68:
No, the current support is a protest vote which hopefully will give the Conservatives and Labour the wake up call they need the same can be said of the European Parliment.They would never be able to form a credible government they would be a disaster for this country, I predict the Conservative party to win a slim majority at the next general election.
Ukip will never be in power in their own right. As a “checks and balances” party though, they look a lot better.
What would the Tories do with a majority? - enact policies that are unpopular, like in 1992.
What would Labour do with a majority? - Enact policies that are unpopular, like opening our doors to all comers.
What would Tories do in Coalition? - Well, we’ve seen what they’d do with the Libdems… Do we want more of that?
What about a Coalition involving Labour? - Unknown quantity there. What they’d do depends on how much Millband wants power, and what he’s prepared to do to keep it. Looking at the way he sits on the fence over Europe, I’d say he’s currently undecided as to where he thinks his future power will come from. It’s possible he’s a closet Europhile who would like nothing else than to be a heavily-renumerated MEP rather than prime minister of this country on somewhat lower pay, once the expenses are all factored in.A Coalition involving UKIP? - The Tories would stand to gain more from this than Labour would. The whole “Vote UKIP - Get Milliband” is therefore a total lie. If Tory & Labour got exactly the same number of seats next year - do you really think UKIP would go with “non committal” labour rather than “bring promised referendum merely forwards 2 years” Conservatives?
It would be a lot easier to make a coalition agreement with the Tories than with Labour - is what I’m saying here.
The fact is the next election will either be a majority for Labour or a majority for a UKIP Conservative co alition led by Farage and Davis.Cameron and his Cons are as good as finished and an irrelevance already just like their LibDem allies in the co alition.It’s Cameron and the Cons who are damaging the electoral chances of that UKIP and real Conservative co alition by trying to keep their pro EU pro immigration policies alive.
When it’s really now all about a two way fight between the federalist,pro EU,pro immigration,global warmist,Labour agenda v that anti EU,anti immigration,global warming sceptic UKIP and Conservative co alition.
Ironically Labour will obviously be supported in that fight by an unholy alliance of the CBI cheap labour agenda and the socialist and immigrant vote.
As for me I don’t like socialism,or federalism,or the CBI agenda or the bs global warmist cause so the choice is a no brainer.
It’s not a fact, it’s your opinion.
The Tories need an earthquake of their own to get a majority next year.
That’s neither ‘opinion’ nor ‘fact’ - it’s prescience. 
Its hard to know unless they produce a manifesto for the next election detailing more policys.
i can see the tories possibly do a deal with ukip or come up with a anti eu line.
NO every time I see that Nigel Farage I think of a PUNCH&JUDY show keep expecting to see the wires going up to whoever is operating him.
And lets face it they will need to hold Prime Ministers Questions in one of the bars in Westminster cause Nige would need a pint. Eddie.
Winseer:
The Tories need an earthquake of their own to get a majority next year.That’s neither ‘opinion’ nor ‘fact’ - it’s prescience.
You’ve been watching Dr Who again haven’t you.
BillyHunt:
It’s not a fact, it’s your opinion.
If the Cons are of the ‘opinion’ that they can win a majority at the next election hopefully they’ll continue with that delusion.In order to make more Conservative voters switch to UKIP and which can only make the chances of a UKIP and Davis led Conservative co alition and Cameron being dumped sooner rather than later more likely.
kr79:
Its hard to know unless they produce a manifesto for the next election detailing more policys.
i can see the tories possibly do a deal with ukip or come up with a anti eu line.
There’s no way that anyone with any sense would trust a pro EU pro immigration ■■■■■■ like Cameron if he now tries to pretend that he’s now changed sides just to save his failed government.Just like Clegg the inconvenient truth for Cameron is that the next election wil be a two way electoral fight between the misguided socialists in the pro EU pro immigration global warmist Labour electorate and the anti EU anti immigration global warmist sceptic UKIP side.As for the Cons,as the stand,and their LibDem allies they are now an irrelevance at least to anyone who isn’t a member or supporter of the CBI agenda and the EU federalist cause.
While there will have to be a split inside the Conservative Party along the Davis v Cameron line first before there could be any possible deal with UKIP before the election.Which is my bet on where things are probably ( hopefully ) heading.
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
It’s not a fact, it’s your opinion.If the Cons are of the ‘opinion’ that they can win a majority at the next election hopefully they’ll continue with that delusion.In order to make more Conservative voters switch to UKIP and which can only make the chances of a UKIP and Davis led Conservative co alition and Cameron being dumped sooner rather than later more likely.
I’m guessing, from other posts, that you have been around politics for quite a while. Do you think the Tories will just be sitting back trying to work out how they can work with ukip? You know they will come out with all guns blazing in an attempt to win the majority of their voters back, they aren’t stupid are they. Of course they think they can win outright, as do labour, and that’s what they will work towards, it happens every time. Nobody thought John Major would get in but he did. Trying to forecast what the British public will do in any given situation is a mugs game.
BillyHunt:
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
It’s not a fact, it’s your opinion.If the Cons are of the ‘opinion’ that they can win a majority at the next election hopefully they’ll continue with that delusion.In order to make more Conservative voters switch to UKIP and which can only make the chances of a UKIP and Davis led Conservative co alition and Cameron being dumped sooner rather than later more likely.
I’m guessing, from other posts, that you have been around politics for quite a while. Do you think the Tories will just be sitting back trying to work out how they can work with ukip? You know they will come out with all guns blazing in an attempt to win the majority of their voters back, they aren’t stupid are they. Of course they think they can win outright, as do labour, and that’s what they will work towards, it happens every time. Nobody thought John Major would get in but he did. Trying to forecast what the British public will do in any given situation is a mugs game.
Bearing in mind thet it’s all about a two way electoral fight between the pro EU, pro immigration,global warmist socialist and CBI driven alliance,as opposed to the anti EU anti immigration global warmist sceptic UKIP side the Conservatives have two choices either go with UKIP or Labour wins.If they go with UKIP then Cameron and his pro EU pro immigration cronies will first have to go to allow an anti EU anti immigration Davis led co alition to be formed.Just like the LibDems the pro EU pro immigration Cons are now irrelevant.Unless they form an alliance with Labour.However the issues are so clear cut that the next election can only be a two way fight regardless.In which case there’s no room or need for 4 different parties.IE it’s going to be an anti EU anti immigration UKIP and Conservative co alition v a pro EU,pro immigration Labour one in which case we’re more or less where we were in the 1970’s in the case of Powell v Heath and Thatcher with Wilson picking up the pieces like a vulture because the Cons and the British electorate was too stupid in following Heath and then Thatcher instead of Powell.Hopefully things will turn out different this time.
I’m sorry but there is no way Cameron would turn round and say yes to a coalition, oh & by the way I’ll move out of No10 and let a big rival in. Ukip won’t get enough seats in parliament to do anything for anyone or with anyone anyway so all the coalition talk is meaningless.
BillyHunt:
I’m sorry but there is no way Cameron would turn round and say yes to a coalition, oh & by the way I’ll move out of No10 and let a big rival in. Ukip won’t get enough seats in parliament to do anything for anyone or with anyone anyway so all the coalition talk is meaningless.
UKIP only needs to split the Conservative vote which it’s on course for doing.The Cons couldn’t even manage a majority at the previous election and needed the help of the LibDems to form a co alition which won’t be a factor at the next election.Which means that they are facing a guaranteed loss against Labour without the help of the UKIP vote and there’s no way that any UKIP voter would vote for Cameron being that he’s part of the pro EU pro immigration global warmist agenda.As I said the issues are so clear cut that it’s just a case of a Labour win or the Conservatives need to create a co alition with UKIP before the election.
It’s obvious that there’s no chance of such a co alition without at least replacing Cameron with Davis and a total change in Conservative policy to bring it into line with that of UKIP’s.
IE the next election will either be a result for an anti EU anti immigration global warmist sceptic UKIP/Conservative co alition.
Or it will be a majority for the pro EU pro immigration global warmist Labour and possibly what remains of the LibDem Party and Cameron tendency of the Conservative Party vote.IE just more of the same as we’ve had under Heath,Wilson,Callaghan,Thatcher,Major,Blair,Brown and Cameron and Clegg.
Hopefully for anyone who isn’t part of the federalist,CBI and/or socialist agenda it will be a win for the former.
Apathy will have the biggest percentage at the next General Election, with people not bothering to vote. I think it should be made compulsory to vote.
Dave the Renegade:
Apathy will have the biggest percentage at the next General Election, with people not bothering to vote. I think it should be made compulsory to vote.
Makes no difference. It’d be like forcing people to choose between Coke and Pepsi. Sure, you have a choice but ultimately you’re going to get a Cola and if you don’t like Cola you’re screwed.
You could vote for the other parties of course but we all know they won’t get anywhere. Labour and the Cons have been in power for over a century with change looking unlikely. It will be surprising if UKIPs Euro gains are mirrored in the Generals.
We have see-saw politics in Britain, just like in the US. We vote out the current scumbags hoping for change but ultimately end up disappointed when the new scumbags are just the same. But it’s amazing how hundreds of episodes of Strictly Come Eastemmerdale Street On Ice can make you forget about what a shower of ■■■■■ the new scumbags were the last time you decided to give them a chance.
As you said, apathy will win the next election and that’s EXACTLY how they want it to be.