why was it shunted with the suspension on its arse ■■ if i moved round the yard with my truck on its arse i would rip my mudguards off also … one thing is why is the load not strapped up i can clearly see the rails for the straps on the roof but none are used , if i drove our trailer without using the straps my load would tip aswell … infact it would probably tip me over … sounds to me like a half arsed driver or shunter that does
I think it shows why we need LHV’s not just to sort the weight issues but also the one of loads being stacked too high to be able to secure them properly.The question to ask is would anyone take that out,as shown,if it was a flat trailer which effectively is what it is.Six wheeler rigid pulling that trailer instead of a tractor unit and the load spread between them both no problem.
No I wouldn’t take it out in that condition. Some shocking answers here from some who would probably claim to have done it all before. Sacking the driver was grossly unfair for such a slight misdemeanor if that’s all there was. Name and shame KD if you’re done with them!
al_P:
why was it shunted with the suspension on its arse ■■ if i moved round the yard with my truck on its arse i would rip my mudguards off also … one thing is why is the load not strapped up i can clearly see the rails for the straps on the roof but none are used , if i drove our trailer without using the straps my load would tip aswell … infact it would probably tip me over … sounds to me like a half arsed driver or shunter that does
The suspension might well have been up but if there’s grossly disproportionate weight on one side the bed will twist, as the chassis rails are virtually non-existent there, and pull the wing top off when you turn.
lets assume that trailer was taken out in that condition and by some miracle it reached it’s destination ,what happens to the poor smuck who undoes the curtain
martyh:
lets assume that trailer was taken out in that condition and by some miracle it reached it’s destination ,what happens to the poor smuck who undoes the curtain
Not a lot if the pallets are wrapped. If they manage to get the tension off the pole there’ll be so much tension in the curtain you won’t get the hooks off the side raves without seeing what’s going to happen.
yes
but when the straps have been refitted
and or the upright and boards are replaced
having said that as trailer looks to run at 4.50m
maybe it was specced with only 2 pillars
It’s fine in the UK; but I would not take it to Germany… 
yes i’d take it after i’d secured it. it looks like rope would be better than straps on that one.
as for the mudguard problem. i can’t see how it happened. did someone not use the suspension on the unit and just ram it under?
Ahh, you were misleading us, you said the weight was 25 tonnes and didn’t give any reason for us to dispute the fact. The stuff looks soundly loaded and I would take it out.
If they’ve put 50 tonne on a trailer, they need shutting down and they’re sacking drivers for a marker light out, what a bunch of idiots! Sounds like you’re better off out of there kerb dog, 28 phone calls in a day, you’re having a laugh? What a bunch of tossers.
So the driver takes the only trailer available out with a stupid (non) defect to get a job done and gets the bullet, unreal. This country is broken.
I’m amazed you lasted the week, I’m in the position of having to do work I don’t particularly like at the moment but you’ve got to draw the line somewhere & that firm you were on for sound like the biggest bunch of muppets I’ve read about in a long time.
Own Account Driver:
al_P:
why was it shunted with the suspension on its arse ■■ if i moved round the yard with my truck on its arse i would rip my mudguards off also … one thing is why is the load not strapped up i can clearly see the rails for the straps on the roof but none are used , if i drove our trailer without using the straps my load would tip aswell … infact it would probably tip me over … sounds to me like a half arsed driver or shunter that doesThe suspension might well have been up but if there’s grossly disproportionate weight on one side the bed will twist, as the chassis rails are virtually non-existent there, and pull the wing top off when you turn.
Is correct, there was more weight on the nearside than the offside. The suspension was levelled but when the shunter (who is a driver who moves trailers when he comes in at 6am a tad earlier than the other day drivers) pulled off and turned right in the yard the mudguard caught on the leaning trailer. As you can see it is a normal unit under the trailer and it that is what was used to move the trailer !
DrivingMissDaisy:
Name and shame KD if you’re done with them!
I got my time sheets signed today but they don’t get paid just yet so until then going to be careful and not say too much !
Finally, yes there is a strap rail… AS you can see from the pic in the back, there are no straps ! There are 2 ratchet straps in the cupboard of the unit and that’s it. I know that because I put them there, I was going to strap them up but decided not to climb all over the pallets and just shut the curtains tight instead.
Yes i would take it out.
all the plts are all loaded nice and tight,dont think the weight will be much of a problem.
Just drive steady and dont go throwing it around corners and everthing will be ok.
It looks like your just trying to find any reason not to take the trailer out.
Silver_Surfer:
Ahh, you were misleading us, you said the weight was 25 tonnes and didn’t give any reason for us to dispute the fact. The stuff looks soundly loaded and I would take it out.
He actually said ‘the manifest’ showed 25t.At which point a look at the load would raise the question as to it’s accuracy depending on the individual weight of each pallet etc. 
It’s difficult to see how it’s secure as shown taking into account the height it’s all been stacked to and what it’s going to take to tie all that lot down sufficiently and the security of the base that every level is sitting on.The fact is current length and weight limits are a joke leading to dodgy loading plans.As I’ve said I think I’d prefer to risk getting done for being over length and gross weight using a Scandinavian drawbar outfit than risk taking that lot out on the road,as shown,using a legal length trailer. 
Needs transshipping onto a flat without a head board.
Geoffrey is right.
The truck is overloaded. The front axle’s are overloaded. You can’t take this trailer out. The manifest said 25 tonne and showed the batteries at weighing 7 tonne accross 28 pallets. Do them pallets on the front look like they each way a quarter of a tonne ? No they don’t. When the driver got in he didn’t have to close the curtains as that was done but the clips are always hanging loose. If he’d have just closed the clips then he could have gone out onto the road with that on the manifest say so. Even if VOSA pulled him with the manifest in hand, he would still have had the book thrown at him. Like I said, I estimate around 52 tonne or 8 tonne OVERLOADED in total, plus the other side of axle overloading and unsafe loading (IE no straps). Good job the driver had no straps in the trailer as I think he may well have taken it out on the manifest weight.
cav551:
Needs transshipping onto a flat without a head board.
Then rope and sheet it job done. 
That load would never have shifted on a correctly roped and sheeted flat.
I think the title of this section…“The UK Professional Drivers Forum” Has been adequately compromised in this one thread alone 
There truly are some real life muppets out there…I would like to say that I am surprised and be under no illusion, I am not whiter than white, nor do I know everything, but I do have experience…But more importantly, I actually learn from my mistakes and I hope I go on to learn more…