All for the sake of looking in both mirrors. So sad for both parties involved.
While this is of course a terrible tragedy I dont know that he is guilty.I cycle regularly I might add.When I was first a working man there were signs in factories with the words Dont wear loose flapping clothing near machinery.
one word, NO,wasnt done on purpose,it was as stated an accident,even though mr barnford was trying to get home he should have used common sense,he would still be alive had he waited 2 min for the lorries to pull away
Back in my days of being in London all day I witnessed lots of suicidal cyclists. My favourite was when me and another lorry were passing each other going opposite directions and it was mirror to mirror nearly doing walking pace. Suddenly I hear some banging and it’s a pushbike squeezing between us hitting the side of the lorry to alert me he is there. He just made it through but why would anyone do that?
As for the op, I think I would have took my chances saying not guilty, we can only do so much and probably assumed knowone would try and get down a 30cm gap.
Awful event. Yes, our man was guilty of a momentary, fundamental error. He should have seen the situation developing. The poor victim, however, was equally guilty of a momentary, fundamental error. With a bit more reasoning, he wouldn’t have even considered trying to squeeze between two trucks.
A classic example of how both parties involved are culpable to some degree.
Seems to be nothing more than a tragic accident. Certainly not worthy of jail time. Last time roaduser66 frequented this forum he insisted filtering between traffic was legal,therefor an acceptable practise by cyclists. This tragedy highlights why its not a good idea and better to wait on traffic moving off
The lorry driver was careless, the cyclist was reckless and thus bears the greater blame.
From the Article: “Oncoming cyclist Mr Bamford couldn’t use the footpath which was covered with scaffolding so dismounted and attempted to squeeze between the vehicles.”
That’s all I need to read.
One poor soul lost his life and the other poor soul will live with the consequences for the rest of his life,guilty or not guilty ain’t gunna change that for anyone
Not that long ago these tragic accidents used to be recorded by coroners as open verdict as they were very very unfortunate accidents.
Nowadays it’s has to be blamed on someone no matter what.
Yes - driver should have looked when moving off but it happens.
Yes - Cyclist should have found alternative route rather than squeeze in between two trucks
All lives have been irreversibly affected but to apply criminal charges is in itself criminal
dcgpx:
Not that long ago these tragic accidents used to be recorded by coroners as open verdict as they were very very unfortunate accidents.Nowadays it’s has to be blamed on someone no matter what.
Yes - driver should have looked when moving off but it happens.
Yes - Cyclist should have found alternative route rather than squeeze in between two trucks
All lives have been irreversibly affected but to apply criminal charges is in itself criminal
+1 Very sad for all concerned
To be honest it is the cyclists fault, the gap was too narrow, he attempts to go back and aborted the plan to get through.
The report says the driver thought the cyclist was out of harms way and pulled off.
If you change the scenario to no cyclist being there, you would not check the near side mirror when you know there is no vehicles, as you are sandwiched by another vehicle.