Scarab:
Sadly it seems this thread is full of people who think the poor blighter’s working for shell have got it tough.
Think you are missing the point!! It’s a democratic vote to strike & the question is… given that they have voted to strike would you cross the picket line? What they earn & what they ask for doesn’t matter, it’s a legitimate strike & picket!
I couldn’t give a toss whether it’s legitimate or not! If they want to stand at their company gates waving banners about and generally behaving like yobs because they can’t be arsed finding themselves jobs that pay wages they’re happy with then that’s their choice. It’s nowt to do with me and of no benefit or detriment to me either way so they either get the ■■■■ out of my way or I’ll mow them all down.
I’ve no sympathy whatsoever for people that are too lazy to get off their arses and actually do something about their lot when they’re unhappy. And no, shouting, wailing and whining outside the company gates isn’t improving your lot; it’s just shouting, wailing and whining, which will get you nowhere.
Yeah the Tanker drivers in my opinion are being ■■■■■■■ greedy.
I had’nt quite realised at the start of all this that they wanted a £6000 pay rise.
But to all of you who say you’d cross a picket line,■■■■ em etc have to take into consideration that if it was YOU who had a really BIG issue with the company you worked for(not necessarily pay) and all talks to resolve this ISSUE broke down and it came down to striking…would you be happy to see the SCABS come in and undermine all that you were striking for??
yes…some of the strikes are for ridiculous reasons…but they are ISSUES within those companies that NONE of us know about unless we actually work for them!!! so how can we possibly judge reasons why workers are on strike…all we hear is media reports and speculation. …if that.
Some of em are ■■■■■■■ lazy…but many just want tolerable pay and decent working conditions…SCABS just allow these companies to carry on as normal !!!
bikemonkey:
Yeah the Tanker drivers in my opinion are being [zb] greedy.
I had’nt quite realised at the start of all this that they wanted a £6000 pay rise.
But to all of you who say you’d cross a picket line,[zb] em etc have to take into consideration that if it was YOU who had a really BIG issue with the company you worked for(not necessarily pay) and all talks to resolve this ISSUE broke down and it came down to striking…would you be happy to see the SCABS come in and undermine all that you were striking for??
yes…some of the strikes are for ridiculous reasons…but they are ISSUES within those companies that NONE of us know about unless we actually work for them!!! so how can we possibly judge reasons why workers are on strike…all we hear is media reports and speculation. …if that.
Some of em are [zb] lazy…but many just want tolerable pay and decent working conditions…SCABS just allow these companies to carry on as normal !!!
You’re missing the point. If you don’t work for the company and have nothing to do with them then why are you scared to cross the picket line? All you should be thinking is that it’s a bunch of random blokes stop outside some random company, shouting and screaming about something that’s got nothing to do with you. What’s the problem?
Rob K:
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You’re missing the point. If you don’t work for the company and have nothing to do with them then why are you scared to cross the picket line? All you should be thinking is that it’s a bunch of random blokes stop outside some random company, shouting and screaming about something that’s got nothing to do with you. What’s the problem?
Leaving aside any feelings of sympathy you may or may not have for workers who feel they have a right to ask that a dispute they have should not be compromised, the problem may well be that your vehicle and life may well be in danger.
Something tells me Rob that you have never crossed a hysterical massed picket line.
what i would like to know is how many of these striking drivers are 100% behind this action? how many have been intimidated by their colleagues or have chosen to do so to save face as it were? how many would still be there if the strike continues for a couple of months?
Rob K:
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You’re missing the point. If you don’t work for the company and have nothing to do with them then why are you scared to cross the picket line? All you should be thinking is that it’s a bunch of random blokes stop outside some random company, shouting and screaming about something that’s got nothing to do with you. What’s the problem?
Leaving aside any feelings of sympathy you may or may not have for workers who feel they have a right to ask that a dispute they have should not be compromised, the problem may well be that your vehicle and life may well be in danger.
Something tells me Rob that you have never crossed a hysterical massed picket line.
Why would my life be in danger? If they started rioting and throwing their fists around etc I’d have every one of them locked up for assault, and then they’d have something real to whinge and carry on about. Bunch of muppets the lot of them. I hope they all get sacked.
Rob K:
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Why would my life be in danger? If they started rioting and throwing their fists around etc I’d have every one of them locked up for assault, and then they’d have something real to whinge and carry on about. Bunch of muppets the lot of them. I hope they all get sacked.
As I said
Something tells me Rob that you have never crossed a hysterical massed picket line.
limeyphil:
If you are a tanker driver or not. Would you cross one of the picket lines?
If i was given a job to deliver machinery etc to a refinery while the strikes are on. I wouldn’t try to enter the site.
Yes. I can’t abide bullies, whether they are employers, union leaders or picketers. If someone wants to picket then I am happy to respect that provided it is democratic and legal and irrespective of whether I think they have anything to strike about or not. In return, I expect to be able carry out my work.
I remember the pickets at liverpool docks - early 70s? - when I was a kid and out with my Dad, in his old albion clydesdale. As an od, he either worked or didn’t have any money. The level of abuse and intimidation put me off strikes and unions for life.
albion:
Yes. I can’t abide bullies, whether they are employers, union leaders or picketers. If someone wants to picket then I am happy to respect that provided it is democratic and legal and irrespective of whether I think they have anything to strike about or not. In return, I expect to be able carry out my work.
I remember the pickets at liverpool docks - early 70s? - when I was a kid and out with my Dad, in his old albion clydesdale. As an od, he either worked or didn’t have any money. The level of abuse and intimidation put me off strikes and unions for life.
Hear Hear. or is it Here Here?
I was around Hull docks at that time, the union leaders were all cosy, while the transport drivers were intimidated, as the dockers held everyone to ransom and put many respected firms out of business.
Afternoon Folks,
I’d never cross a picket line.
I was on strike during the firefighters dispute. They were very hard days, no money and alot of negative press. I take my hat off to those people who have the balls to strike…they need all the support they can get!!!
Well done tanker drivers…you won!
Regards Smokinbarrels
Yes I would cross I have done before & would do it again without any hesitation.
I used to deliver into Liverpool docks quite reguarly, where the dock workers would make the staff at an RDC seem pleasent & accomadating, when they started striking I used to drive straight through with a big smile on my face.
I agree with Mike-c & others on this one, some of these strikers need to look at the way they treat other people before asking for their support when it suits them.
