commonrail:
Tbh the way battery tech is progressing atm…buying any ev(warranty or otherwise)would be like buying a personal computer in the eighties.
It’ll be obsolete in a fortnight
You’re not far wrong, The EV/Battery tech is moving so fast that in the space of six months the tech has already been surpassed with software updates/upgrades.
I had the first service done on my MG ZS EV a couple of weeks ago & that cost £56. A couple of software updates applied & that was pretty much it.
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.
I wonder what the battery costs represents as a percentage of the purchase price of EVs. Anybody know? I´ll give it a Google but I suspect the manufacturers aren’t telling!
EDIT.
Ooops. I found a site (not a manufacturer I think) that says the powertrain of an EV represents 51% of cost compared to 18% for an ICE vehicle. Plus the chassis is 15% (EV) against 9%. Quite a difference.
insideevs.com/features/396979/h … n-cost-ev/
Hope the link worked. So I doubt any battery upgrade would be viable.
Dipster:
So I doubt any battery upgrade would be viable.
Thought not
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.
Troubles me also, took my son back to Brigend from his Christmas break in our hometown of Plymouth today in a very well loaded 18 year old Volvo diesel obviously without the need of a fuel stop and plenty still left in the tank after a journey in terrible weather with lights, wipers, blower motor on all the time.
Could an EV do this? I very much doubt it.
bigstraight6:
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.Troubles me also, took my son back to Brigend from his Christmas break in our hometown of Plymouth today in a very well loaded 18 year old Volvo diesel obviously without the need of a fuel stop and plenty still left in the tank after a journey in terrible weather with lights, wipers, blower motor on all the time.
Could an EV do this? I very much doubt it.
300+ miles with all the gizmos on? Perhaps a super expensive EV. But even then it might be “running on air” (what is the EV equivalent for that?) close to home!
Dipster:
bigstraight6:
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.Troubles me also, took my son back to Brigend from his Christmas break in our hometown of Plymouth today in a very well loaded 18 year old Volvo diesel obviously without the need of a fuel stop and plenty still left in the tank after a journey in terrible weather with lights, wipers, blower motor on all the time.
Could an EV do this? I very much doubt it.
300+ miles with all the gizmos on? Perhaps a super expensive EV. But even then it might be “running on air” (what is the EV equivalent for that?) close to home!
Wise words, and the aforementioned old Volvo diesel cost me £2300 when I purchased it 8 years ago and is now on 166,000 miles and owes me nothing!
Dipster:
bigstraight6:
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.Troubles me also, took my son back to Brigend from his Christmas break in our hometown of Plymouth today in a very well loaded 18 year old Volvo diesel obviously without the need of a fuel stop and plenty still left in the tank after a journey in terrible weather with lights, wipers, blower motor on all the time.
Could an EV do this? I very much doubt it.
300+ miles with all the gizmos on? Perhaps a super expensive EV. But even then it might be “running on air” (what is the EV equivalent for that?) close to home!
You will get a turtle sign on the dashboard amongst others with restricted a accelerator pedal & it switches the heating/AC off to conserve power. A 300+ mile round trip would need a juice up for 30 minutes in the middle of that trip in yer average EV.
bigstraight6:
Dipster:
bigstraight6:
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.Troubles me also, took my son back to Brigend from his Christmas break in our hometown of Plymouth today in a very well loaded 18 year old Volvo diesel obviously without the need of a fuel stop and plenty still left in the tank after a journey in terrible weather with lights, wipers, blower motor on all the time.
Could an EV do this? I very much doubt it.
300+ miles with all the gizmos on? Perhaps a super expensive EV. But even then it might be “running on air” (what is the EV equivalent for that?) close to home!
Wise words, and the aforementioned old Volvo diesel cost me £2300 when I purchased it 8 years ago and is now on 166,000 miles and owes me nothing!
Sadly even Volvo don’t make them like they used to, i had a 940 Diesel estate just a superb car all round, we’ll never see their likes again.
lancpudn:
Dipster:
bigstraight6:
commonrail:
It’s the range…that troubles me.
Was thinking about blowing my van in(when the warranty runs out)for an electric caddy.
Don’t want to be stuck with a van with a 150 mile range…when 6 months later the same van has a 270 mile range.
Are the battery packs interchangeable?
EDIT apparently there is no electric version.Troubles me also, took my son back to Brigend from his Christmas break in our hometown of Plymouth today in a very well loaded 18 year old Volvo diesel obviously without the need of a fuel stop and plenty still left in the tank after a journey in terrible weather with lights, wipers, blower motor on all the time.
Could an EV do this? I very much doubt it.
300+ miles with all the gizmos on? Perhaps a super expensive EV. But even then it might be “running on air” (what is the EV equivalent for that?) close to home!
You will get a turtle sign on the dashboard amongst others with restricted a accelerator pedal & it switches the heating/AC off to conserve power. A 300+ mile round trip would need a juice up for 30 minutes in the middle of that trip in yer average EV.
Interesting. But is there a phrase used to describe that condition to others? Or is it simply “limp home”? Just wondering.
@ Dipster Interesting. But is there a phrase used to describe that condition to others? Or is it simply “limp home”? Just wondering.
Limp mode for ICE vehicles & Turtle mode for EV’s
Juddian:
Sadly even Volvo don’t make them like they used to, i had a 940 Diesel estate just a superb car all round, we’ll never see their likes again.
9 series was the last of the proper rear wheel drive Volvos.
The 164 was my all time favourite.
@Juddian
Sadly even Volvo don’t make them like they used to, i had a 940 Diesel estate just a superb car all round, we’ll never see their likes again.
That’s an apt comment watching today’s vid from the Aussie ‘Electric Viking’s’ YT channel about Volvo’s head of R&D product Henrik Green has to say about Volvo’s future. youtube.com/watch?v=4AWbShwMRD0
Carryfast:
Juddian:
Sadly even Volvo don’t make them like they used to, i had a 940 Diesel estate just a superb car all round, we’ll never see their likes again.9 series was the last of the proper rear wheel drive Volvos.
The 164 was my all time favourite.
Agreed, my old S60 has one of the best automotive Diesel engines ever made, the venerable D5 and I intend to keep the old girl as my daily commute for as long as possible. It doesn’t break and is very frugal on dirty derv and shifts a bit when I need it to, I’ve definitely more than had my monies worth out of the old donkey.
bigstraight6:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
Sadly even Volvo don’t make them like they used to, i had a 940 Diesel estate just a superb car all round, we’ll never see their likes again.9 series was the last of the proper rear wheel drive Volvos.
The 164 was my all time favourite.Agreed, my old S60 has one of the best automotive Diesel engines ever made, the venerable D5 and I intend to keep the old girl as my daily commute for as long as possible. It doesn’t break and is very frugal on dirty derv and shifts a bit when I need it to, I’ve definitely more than had my monies worth out of the old donkey.
Yup CF, my favourite was the big bumper 144GLE i had, manual with overdrive in a lovely shade of ice blue.
Never really liked the 244 and 245 or 765 V6 i had, the 940 was just great though with the VW LT van 2.4 turbo Diesel lump, again manual with overdrive, my first car aged 17 was a 122S.
Yes big6, the D5 was surprisingly rapid, couldn’t find a decent V70 at the time, difference in price between an S60 and V70 was staggering, saloon no good for dogs sadly.
Have you checked and sorted the rear park brake on yours, presumably you already know this but the park brake shoes can delaminate and can cause the rear hub to seize solid if they do, if you do whip the disc/drums off make sure to have new shoes available easily and make sure to buy new hold down springs (the small ones which keep the shoes tensioned against the back plates) over time they go slack and its very annoying when you can’t complete the rebuild for the sake of 4 bloody little springs, i know this first hand due to family S60, its about the only regular problem of that era of Volvos.
Juddian:
Yup CF, my favourite was the big bumper 144GLE i had, manual with overdrive in a lovely shade of ice blue.
Never really liked the 244 and 245 or 765 V6 i had, the 940 was just great though with the VW LT van 2.4 turbo Diesel lump, again manual with overdrive, my first car aged 17 was a 122S.
The pushrod Volvo motors were second to none and the B20 injected versions were surprisingly powerful for a 2 litre 4.From memory S was twin carbs E was injected.
A 164 manual overdrive was on my shopping list but couldn’t afford one even used in the day.
Old 3.8 S type Jags were way cheaper to buy but couldn’t get insured on one as a new driver so Triumph 2.5PI it was for me.Probably the fuel and maintenance for the Jag would have wrecked my savings anyway.