Rob K:
Your last line is quite laughable but this and all the other “you don’t know what you’re talking about” comments keep me amused no end. What I do both past and present is my business, no-one elses.
Well, the simple fact is that you are rather addicted to the “Owner and Fleet Operators’” forum, and there must be some reason for this being your favourite corner of TruckNet by a country mile.
Yes, it’s about the only thing on this site that I enjoy reading, mainly for the amusement factor of the blind leading the blind. It’s like being outside a slaughterhouse looking in through the window at all the hapless lambs that haven’t got a clue what’s coming to them.
with all due respect i think that last comment was totally misplaced and out of order
i’ve come to the conclusion from reading a lot of what the contributors to this thread have written elsewhere and it’s obvious to me as well as others that you’ve not got a scooby about what you’re talking about otherwise you’d stand up and tell us in these boards about what it is that we’re all doing so wrong. i’m pretty darn sure that all the OD’s in here are making more than enough money to make it worthwhile for them…
from reading it seems as though you just get your kicks out of slagging off people who run perfectly viable small businesses and yet you won’t say what experience you’ve got to back up making these statements…
i think that you need to go sit back in your chair again…
the prices that you given in this thread have undercut the people that moved my tele to where it is by a considerable margin - was almost double the £60p/h that you wrote 8wheels.
for me it’s not all housing estates - there’s very little money to be made in housing cos everyone wants in so pricing got driven to a point where it’s touch and go - it’s worth it for me cos i own the truck outright so everything after i’ve paid my diesel bill and transport costs is profit.
the serious money is in the big projects - contract lifting and civil engineering works eg. railtrack (been involved in quite a few of their projects) and smaller industrial stuff that only takes a few days but the lack of hours is more than made for by the pricing.
from what i’ve found out by researching things it’s a bit like having a contract running tin boxes and having a contract running a multidrop curtainsider where from what i found out there’s more money in the multidrop but if you own your truck outright both make sense just the size of the profit in the job that’s different.
i’m going to go and have a look at this roro plant lifter and then have a chat with the guys at the skip hire place near here cos they’ve got roro trucks about getting them to move it next time.
Rob K:
Yes, it’s about the only thing on this site that I enjoy reading, mainly for the amusement factor of the blind leading the blind. It’s like being outside a slaughterhouse looking in through the window at all the hapless lambs that haven’t got a clue what’s coming to them.
So despite having absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of my income or outgoings, you feel you are better placed to state whether I am trading profitably than either myself or my accountant?
It’s no wonder people don’t take your posts very seriously.
Rob K:
Yes, it’s about the only thing on this site that I enjoy reading, mainly for the amusement factor of the blind leading the blind.
Right, so one owner-operator talking to another owner-operator about owning and operating a truck is “the blind leading the blind” ?
We are all just showcasing our blindness by not taking on board the wisdom of some unemployed ex-agency driver from Yorkshire who has only ever had two jobs, three months on containers and three months as a supermarket trolley dolly, who hasn’t had a job for four years and who is currently claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance?
can I Suggest before the OP makes much more of an arse of himself- that he remembers that some of the folks viewing this forum do know what they are talking about- this has gone on far enough- the guy has hung himself by his own words , and the beauty is he is that niave he doesnt even realise it- let the Walter Mitty go. he isnt worth your time and effort
as for Rob and the banter on here… you should all know by now Rob is an expert on everything- thats why he is a household name and has such a highly succesful trucking business and truck related website- oh wait
and I do know what Rob does for a living, and who he works for - and who is the guy who makes it work (not Rob) want to pitch in here Rob and fess up? or continue the digs at the lads with even less credibility than you have now.
Rikki-UK:
can I Suggest before the OP makes much more of an arse of himself- that he remembers that some of the folks viewing this forum do know what they are talking about- this has gone on far enough- the guy has hung himself by his own words , and the beauty is he is that niave he doesnt even realise it- let the Walter Mitty go. he isnt worth your time and effort
as for Rob and the banter on here… you should all know by now Rob is an expert on everything- thats why he is a household name and has such a highly succesful trucking business and truck related website- oh wait
Rob K:
I suspect that this thread (like most other owner operator asking-for-advice threads on this site) is more about owning your own truck rather than it being a viable business plan.
foxy stars:
going to have a look at custom shops to see if i can try and keep in budget - as for when it’ll happen depends on me finding the right people to do it - the right kit to kick it all off and the right parts to customise it and if i need extra cash then it’s going to be a bit longer than that…
foxy stars:
also i just happen to be in love with scanny t cabs (forget girls - i’d marry a t cab anyday)
foxy stars:
the prices that you given in this thread have undercut the people that moved my tele to where it is by a considerable margin - was almost double the £60p/h that you wrote 8wheels.
In an early post you said you telehandler was 15 tonne+, a jcb 535/95 are a little over 8 tonne from memory, plate on chassis by rear wheel.
Are you telling your haulier its 15t+, and their sending you a 44t step frame, when it could go on a 18 tonner. Im guessing your in the north west, looking at the site names you put earlier, in that area national plant hire firms where moving plant on 18t for little more that 2/3 of 8wheels, price per hour, it would cost you a couple of hours worth of moves to keep you own truck parked up.
Price around, some skip firms will move plant for peanuts on hook loaders.
For a couple of moves its not worth having your own truck.
Tin hat on , I know what the rate`s should be, if your haulier is getting upto £120 per hour good on them, but generally the rates are driven right down.
Rikki-UK:
and I do know what Rob does for a living, and who he works for - and who is the guy who makes it work (not Rob) want to pitch in here Rob and fess up?
You’re about 3 years out-of-date Trikki, and you only know that because I told you myself when I offered you a possible solution to the host issues at the time. A lot has changed since then (primarily due to my Old Dear’s ill health) and I am no longer involved with the business. I haven’t “worked” for anyone for at least 6 or 7 years either so you need to find yourself some new sources instead of getting your info from fake Facebook pages.
Rob K:
Your last line is quite laughable but this and all the other “you don’t know what you’re talking about” comments keep me amused no end. What I do both past and present is my business, no-one elses.
Well, the simple fact is that you are rather addicted to the “Owner and Fleet Operators’” forum, and there must be some reason for this being your favourite corner of TruckNet by a country mile.
Yes, it’s about the only thing on this site that I enjoy reading, mainly for the amusement factor of the blind leading the blind. It’s like being outside a slaughterhouse looking in through the window at all the hapless lambs that haven’t got a clue what’s coming to them.
I think Mr K would have looked into running a truck as if it was making money I am sure he would have stuck his finger in the pie
The days of making money on traction only work have gone , simple really unless you can double shift a lorry , we have a guy subbing for us on containers he is running from Felixstowe into Cambs 24 hours aday and he is making a living , he told me if he was not double shifting it wouldnt be worth doing , alot of short hauls is what he wants , trailer changing at each end, trailers are brought into our Felixstowe yard by our shunter so he turns and burns , easy short hauls , making money , running back a empty balances out his fuel costs .
foxy stars:
the prices that you given in this thread have undercut the people that moved my tele to where it is by a considerable margin - was almost double the £60p/h that you wrote 8wheels.
for me it’s not all housing estates - there’s very little money to be made in housing cos everyone wants in so pricing got driven to a point where it’s touch and go - it’s worth it for me cos i own the truck outright so everything after i’ve paid my diesel bill and transport costs is profit.
the serious money is in the big projects - contract lifting and civil engineering works eg. railtrack (been involved in quite a few of their projects) and smaller industrial stuff that only takes a few days but the lack of hours is more than made for by the pricing.
from what i’ve found out by researching things it’s a bit like having a contract running tin boxes and having a contract running a multidrop curtainsider where from what i found out there’s more money in the multidrop but if you own your truck outright both make sense just the size of the profit in the job that’s different.
i’m going to go and have a look at this roro plant lifter and then have a chat with the guys at the skip hire place near here cos they’ve got roro trucks about getting them to move it next time.
thankyou for all your input
Do you buy the truck outright with your own savings that money has to ne replaced so that’s part if your costs. As a few years down the line you will need to replace it.
Personally if it ain’t a wind up your a blindly fool to consider buying a truck unless you have something that had to be moved every day or you have a dozen or do bits of plant,
kr79:
Personally if it ain’t a wind up your a blindly fool to consider buying a truck unless you have something that had to be moved every day or you have a dozen or do bits of plant,
But equally, if you had a truck that could move plant then you might be able to build up hire & reward work moving plant and although that sector is quiet at the moment, the recession won’t last forever so maybe the OP would be in a good position to ride the next wave.
kr79:
Personally if it ain’t a wind up your a blindly fool to consider buying a truck unless you have something that had to be moved every day or you have a dozen or do bits of plant,
But equally, if you had a truck that could move plant then you might be able to build up hire & reward work moving plant and although that sector is quiet at the moment, the recession won’t last forever so maybe the OP would be in a good position to ride the next wave.
There is plenty of work moving plant for other people with a few items who can’t justify the expense of keeping and maintaining a vehicle (sound familiar?) I toyed with the idea a few years back, but in the end I decided that I didn’t want the risk of borrowing a massive sum of money for a startup when I had a decentish income already flowing in. If someone had the yard and the cash to get themselves up and running I’m sure they could get work.
