edd1974:
So when I eventually get paid will it be back dated. And will I then be paid weekly as normal?
If your furloughed then the 1st payments are due to be paid to employers sometime around the end of the month backdated up to 1st March or whichever day you where furloughed. If like myself and some others your employer has sufficient cash flow they could pay you from the 1st week you don’t have a wage
By law they have to continue to pay you as normal. It is perfectly normal for companies to not get paid for the work you’ve done until 4 weeks after you’ve done it so there should be no reason not to pay you. Normally this week’s pay is coming out of invoices paid for work done last month. If a company cannot pay you then the chances are they weren’t doing very well anyway and were likely to go ■■■■ up in the near future even without this if just one customer was late paying an invoice. One thing this lockdown has done is to highlight those businesses that are either no longer viable or never were in the first place.
I’d argue too that its shown which businesses we, as in the public, should be more willing to support in the future.
I certainly won’t be using a Wetherspoons or a Sports Direct fir example. Its a shame others won’t follow suit. Price a pint at £1.70 for a bit and all the morals will be forgotten
peirre:
If we’re Boycotting Wetherspoons where will Robroy go for his evening sabbatical and steak dinner when he’s back out on the road 4 nights a week?
There is a significant bit missing in the link. If you go on the Gov website it say’s you cannot work whilst furloughed WITHIN THE USUAL WORKING HOURS. You can work for someone else OUTSIDE of the usual working days/hours of your first job, so it’s basically like having a second job.
Otherwise the tax payer is paying you 80% of your normal wage and you are still getting a full time wage from a different employer. Think of it as being on the dole and still working without telling the Gov. If you do this you are in my opinion a benefit scrounger taking money out of the system that could go towards the NHS and other important services. It basically makes you a piece of crap and hopefully HMRC will prosecute you and recover the monies owed plus additional charges.
eagerbeaver:
There is a significant bit missing in the link. If you go on the Gov website it say’s you cannot work whilst furloughed WITHIN THE USUAL WORKING HOURS. You can work for someone else OUTSIDE of the usual working days/hours of your first job, so it’s basically like having a second job.
Where in here, the offical UK government guidance, does it say that?
Think of it as being on the dole and still working without telling the Gov. If you do this you are in my opinion a benefit scrounger taking money out of the system that could go towards the NHS and other important services. It basically makes you a piece of crap and hopefully HMRC will prosecute you and recover the monies owed plus additional charges.
Why will they when they’re doing nothing wrong? And will you still hold that same opinion when food on the shelves runs short and the NHS struggles to get stuff moved because people who could work who are on furlough from their normal job don’t because morons like you spout the ■■■■■■■■ you have?
Although morally its [zb] [zb], I’m alright Jack and all that
Really? I suppose the farmers should just leave the food in the fields then, and if too many drivers go sick they shouldnt bother replacing them to deliver to the supermarkets, and the same goes for the supermarket home delivery drivers, these are the only type of jobs I would consider, jobs that help the situation, I am in fairly good position financially and the firlough money is fine for me, I have enough in the bank to pay my mortgage for 12 months so i could easily sit at home but I feel a sense of duty, plus its omly day one and shes doing my head in already
If you’re so concerned about the farmer why not do a good deed and offer to pick his fields for free , I’m at work so is my Mrs so we’re putting 25% of our wages into the Nhs just giving fund , my Mrs suggested it to me and I was quite happy to go along with it , she’s nhs & is daughter so they know how tough it is in a lot of areas for nhs at present .and we all have to do our bit at present
Nb if you’ve already offered to do above , help out for free my apologies
I have been JUST GIVING to the NHS for 35 years through something called income tax
The NHS is what we have been paying for all our working lives and this is what they have done with our money, and its what they will do with your just giving money too youtube.com/watch?v=4_QvABf0vBA new link
watch it, it might open your eyes, you might find out why there is no PPE
eagerbeaver:
There is a significant bit missing in the link. If you go on the Gov website it say’s you cannot work whilst furloughed WITHIN THE USUAL WORKING HOURS. You can work for someone else OUTSIDE of the usual working days/hours of your first job, so it’s basically like having a second job.
Where in here, the offical UK government guidance, does it say that?
Think of it as being on the dole and still working without telling the Gov. If you do this you are in my opinion a benefit scrounger taking money out of the system that could go towards the NHS and other important services. It basically makes you a piece of crap and hopefully HMRC will prosecute you and recover the monies owed plus additional charges.
Why will they when they’re doing nothing wrong? And will you still hold that same opinion when food on the shelves runs short and the NHS struggles to get stuff moved because people who could work who are on furlough from their normal job don’t because morons like you spout the ■■■■■■■■ you have?
So many points to address here Conor. Given the lack of interest I have in you or your posts, I will try my level best to respond to you in a civil manner.
The link you have provided is guidance for employER’S not employee’s.
I have read the info regarding working for another employer whilst on furlough from an existing employer on a Gov site. It specifically stated a paragraph regarding working outside of ’ your normal working hours ', which makes perfect sense for any normal human being to digest as obviously you would in effect be paid twice (although one wage would be 80%) for doing the same hours.
It seems that I have actually read an ‘old’ Gov page as it appears that this thing has had a lot of updates.
Shelves will not run out of food as there are more than enough drivers currently servicing the shops, so stop being so paranoid and dramatic.
The NHS will not struggle to get stuff moved so stop being so paranoid and dramatic.
Personal attacks on TNUK are against the rules. I think you SHOULD be able to attack as long as you are popular or funny. In my opinion you are neither, so YOU should not
“…morons like you spout the ■■■■■■■■ you have? " Hmmn, allow me if I may to administer you some prudent advice. A ‘moron’ in my mind is someone who lacks the capacity to understand any possible consequence of their actions (or inactions). For instance, you could tell everyone who you work for, which regular shift you do, and even which route you take at work. You could then be on other social media and have pictures of yourself everywhere. Indeed, a prominent member on here could have even sent me a picture of you, and if I was a violent or vengeful person, use that knowledge to cause you harm. This example is in no way meant to intimidate you, merely point out the lack of wisdom of your keyboard warrior methods.(I am 6’ 4” by the way and you certainly are not so I would not dream of causing you harm, but there are others who may ) So who is actually the moron?
As for spouting ■■■■■■■■, I may have read some pre-updated Gov advice, but my point remains unchanged. I could not give a flying one if your interpretation is based upon legality vs morality. It is WRONG to claim wages for hours of work usually worked off the tax payer, to then go and get paid off another employer for EXACTLY THE SAME HOURS. It also deprives OTHER PEOPLE OF A JOB THAT WOULD NEED IT MORE THAN YOU as you are already receiving monies and they are not
There is a significant bit missing in the link. If you go on the Gov website it say’s you cannot work whilst furloughed WITHIN THE USUAL WORKING HOURS. You can work for someone else OUTSIDE of the usual working days/hours of your first job, so it’s basically like having a second job.
Otherwise the tax payer is paying you 80% of your normal wage and you are still getting a full time wage from a different employer. Think of it as being on the dole and still working without telling the Gov. If you do this you are in my opinion a benefit scrounger taking money out of the system that could go towards the NHS and other important services. It basically makes you a piece of crap and hopefully HMRC will prosecute you and recover the monies owed plus additional charges.
Provide a source then since you know better than citizens advice and the governments own websites.
There is a significant bit missing in the link. If you go on the Gov website it say’s you cannot work whilst furloughed WITHIN THE USUAL WORKING HOURS. You can work for someone else OUTSIDE of the usual working days/hours of your first job, so it’s basically like having a second job.
Otherwise the tax payer is paying you 80% of your normal wage and you are still getting a full time wage from a different employer. Think of it as being on the dole and still working without telling the Gov. If you do this you are in my opinion a benefit scrounger taking money out of the system that could go towards the NHS and other important services. It basically makes you a piece of crap and hopefully HMRC will prosecute you and recover the monies owed plus additional charges.
Provide a source then since you know better than citizens advice and the governments own websites.
the maoster:
Eagerbeaver I wish that just for once you’d get off that fence and tell us how you really feel.
Pre mod club rules prevent the broadcast of such my good friend…
For now, you illustrious drivers have to do with the PC version of the famous Beaver. I’m sure members such as yourself can decipher the core of my post’s I am still capable of relaying wisdom to those with the capacity to interpret it, although there are many unarmed mental combatant’s on here
shullbit:
theres some proper knobs on here isnt there I know where all those tools in the rdc waiting rooms come from now
Couldn’t agree more with you mate… I also agree with other poster’s on this thread, Dozy has hit the nail on the head.
Those who want to ‘help’ society would do it FOC. I am sure there are also some folk who cannot spend a day or two with their other halves without getting fed up, shame for them in my view, Mrs B is my best friend and we love spending time together.
I consider myself very lucky indeed really, I would hate to be one of these ‘knob’s’
I know Beaver personally, you ain’t supposed to reveal real names on here, but for Conor’s sake I will.
Watch out Conor for Beaver (aka David Banner) ffs.
You won’t like him when he’s angry. …and he’s a regular visitor to Lockerbie truckstop. youtu.be/VFQkQ1-D2g4
Jimmy McNulty:
Although morally its [zb] [zb], I’m alright Jack and all that
What utter crap. If people who are furloughed are prevented from being able to do something else because of sanctimonious pillocks then who are the farmers going to get to provide the 90,000 workers they need to do harvest?
Nothing to do with “I’m alright Jack” at all. In fact talking about that how many toilet rolls, packs of pasta and loaves of bread did you buy? Did you do your normal shopping from when the lockdown was announced or did you buy more so you made sure you were OK?
None. I was doing 12 hour shifts delivering to supermarkets for 6 days straight and never got the chance to buy any of that, had a week of eating take aways and using wet wipes.
Though if I’m sanctamoniously taking the moral high ground regarding taking 180% wages then I wouldn’t likely be wiping out the shops either.
I did actually apologise to the OP I misread his post. Nothing wrong with feeling a sense of duty and helping by picking fruit or volunteering for the NHS, as long as your not profiteering
There is everything wrong though in taking 80% from the tax payer and then jumping on another job to make a quick buck for a few months, it’s worse than benefit fraud.
Jimmy McNulty:
Although morally its [zb] [zb], I’m alright Jack and all that
What utter crap. If people who are furloughed are prevented from being able to do something else because of sanctimonious pillocks then who are the farmers going to get to provide the 90,000 workers they need to do harvest?
Nothing to do with “I’m alright Jack” at all. In fact talking about that how many toilet rolls, packs of pasta and loaves of bread did you buy? Did you do your normal shopping from when the lockdown was announced or did you buy more so you made sure you were OK?
None. I was doing 12 hour shifts delivering to supermarkets for 6 days straight and never got the chance to buy any of that, had a week of eating take aways and using wet wipes.
Though if I’m sanctamoniously taking the moral high ground regarding taking 180% wages then I wouldn’t likely be wiping out the shops either.
I did actually apologise to the OP I misread his post. Nothing wrong with feeling a sense of duty and helping by picking fruit or volunteering for the NHS, as long as your not profiteering
There is everything wrong though in taking 80% from the tax payer and then jumping on another job to make a quick buck for a few months, it’s worse than benefit fraud.
Being on 80% furlough and taking another paying job, may be perfectly legal.
When others are being made redundant and getting only the pittance due them, then it doesn’t seem right. Shouldn’t work be first offered to the unemployed?
The furlough rules were introduced in a rush, so unfortunately they are full of anomalies.
I had to sign a paper for my lot, saying I wouldn’t work for anybody else during the furlough period.
(A bit like Harry Cain not being allowed to play for other clubs, we’re both equally as talented in our jobs. )
so I would not dream of causing you harm, but there are others who may 
) So who is actually the moron?
I am still capable of relaying wisdom to those with the capacity to interpret it, although there are many unarmed mental combatant’s on here 
