commonrail:
shep532:
Had I been in this position I would have politely made my point about the legal issues and asked for the name and title of the senior manager in charge.
I would then make a selection of written manual entries including the times, managers name etc and get home when I get home. I wouldn’t be happy and would take my grievance to my boss as per the company grievance procedure and expect him to take it to Tesco/Supplier etc
I would ensure I take my full rest as required and would of course expect to get paid accordingly for the extra work and any out of pocket expenses etc. I would carry my manual entries for the required time.
I would hope anyone in these ridiculous situations would be supported by their bosses before it got this silly.
oh right…brilliant.
so next time I phone the boss to tell him Im running out of time...instead of telling me to pull out and find some where safe to park,he says "no problem...stick it out until your done..and make a printout when you get back.ill bring it up with the supplier in the morning"(like they give a [zb]) 
so you`ve done an 18 hour shift, no probs.what happens the next time your tm is in the [zb]? another 18 hour shift?
then one a week maybe
makes me wonder if these vosa bods actually have any realistic knowledge of the industry we work in,going by the statements highlighted.
I thought the rules were meant to be about safety ffs 
It is amazing how anything written on here can be completely turned around.
I stated that I would hope the driver would get the support of his boss BEFORE it got this silly. I have worked many years in a company making deliveries to tesco. In most cases if the driver kept us well informed we could manage the situation. As you say, pull the driver out, re-arrange the delivery etc. it was when the driver didn’t keep us informed we got problems.
We always had the mobile number of a senior tesco manager who could make things happen. if we got onto him early enough, things got sorted. if the vehicle was already on the bay and part tipped … nobody can do anything, that is when we make the best of a bad situation and try to keep as legal as possible.
It isn’t much different than being stuck on a closed motorway for hours. Nothing can be done. Had you known the motorway was going to close you would have taken a different route. Sometimes things happen out of the drivers control. if the Tesco staff won’t listen, won’t help, then it becomes UNEXPECTEDLY IMPOSSIBLE to comply with the rules. Once free from tesco head for the nearest suitable stopping place and make the manual entries.
The supplier does give a ■■■■ when he gets the extra bill for the time.
Talk of pulling off bays, dropping trailers, refusing to move for 9 hours are all just silly. In most cases if the driver handles it right he’ll be out of there as quickly as can be done - or not go in there in the first place. On the other hand if he starts shouting and wailing, demanding and threatening …
In years of delivering to tesco I have come across maybe three or four where it was silly. On one a driver had been on duty around 17 hours. When he got back to the yard he marched into my office demanding I do something. “What?” I ask … He’s done the 17 hours now, nothing can change that. “Pay my fine!” “What fine?” “The one I’ll get off VOSA”. Of course there never was a fine. if he was stopped in a roadside check over the next few weeks, produced the printouts with the ‘why, what, when & where’ on the back there would be no problems. it was one event in 28 calendar days. there were no other issues … not a problem.
There are however employers that couldn’t care less and simply allow these things to happen on a regular basis. The send drivers in who clearly don’t have time to do the job. they don’t listen to drivers, shout at the drivers etc etc. it is far easier to manage the situation correctly.
Perhaps we need a Tesco derogation such as we have for ferries and trains■■?