commonrail:
cant believe you old timers didnt get a bad tip/load once in a while.
Had plenty of bad tips in the past, Safeways at Aylesford was one hole I remember well, a few minutes late for a booking and end up there till the evening. I think there were plenty more like it, but we just accepted it (the job) for what it was
commonrail:
ive heard it said,that the "job is [zb]" on many occaisions.but is it...really that bad :question: yes,another quid an hour would be nice...but that could be said of every single working class job on the market.were all you old time truckers rolling in it then :question: ....i earn between £500 and £600 every week,none of my factory working friends earn as much..unless theyre banging the overtime in…err no thanks.
next…phones,trackers etc
cant see the problem,my boss never phones me....ever.he doesnt need to,he can see how im getting on via the tracker. nights out...i for one,would not swap my own personal space,which only i have slept in,for some grotty room in a truckstop,that has been used by a different bloke every night.neither would i fancy sleeping "across the bonnet" amongst cans of diesel and tools etc. trucks...no comparison really.the first truck i drove was a d series ford,and compared to what i drive today..it was a joke.15mph up loughborough bank.ha ha ha. gear box :question: gear bag...more like :smiling_imp: my scania is an awesome tool...a joy to work in....just press drive and go :sunglasses: rules and regulations.. is it really that much hardship to wear a pair of toe cap boots and a yellow bib :question: ffs does it really hurt that much to hand in your keys and sit in a waiting room for an hour or two :question: ive done a fair bit of rdc work this week and all but one have had me tipped in a hour…cant believe you old timers didnt get a bad tip/load once in a while.
Hiya BAD TIPS!!! we did the docks. Hull docks only tipped 5 lorries on a shift, it could have been one drum, but that was one of the 5…and there could be 30 or so lorries waiting to unload. i spent 2 days in Liverpool waiting to deliver a 5 gallon drum to replace one a docker had burst 2 days earlier. no one said it was easier years ago, in fact it was hard work,we’re saying although it was hard it was less hassle in the way the boss (we didn’t have routers and only big outfits had a transport manager)treated and trusted us to manage the work ourselves.toe cap boots i always wore them,
hand your keys in, keys what keys we had a on/off switch with a press button to start, half the doors didn’t have locks,
i had a 1970 Foden that didn’t have any door locks. thats how fast things have changed.
John
Twoninety88:
commonrail:
cant believe you old timers didnt get a bad tip/load once in a while.Had plenty of bad tips in the past, Safeways at Aylesford was one hole I remember well, a few minutes late for a booking and end up there till the evening. I think there were plenty more like it, but we just accepted it (the job) for what it was
Hiya what about that rdc place at Yate you could sit in that place all day… i saw a chap pickup a trailer and run out
one day, i just sat their, about 8 hours later he was back, i’d just sat there waiting.he’d done a days work.
John
3300John:
Hiya BAD TIPS!!! we did the docks. Hull docks only tipped 5 lorries on a shift, it could have been one drum, but that was one of the 5…and there could be 30 or so lorries waiting to unload. i spent 2 days in Liverpool waiting to deliver a 5 gallon drum to replace one a docker had burst 2 days earlier. no one said it was easier years ago, in fact it was hard work,we’re saying although it was hard it was less hassle in the way the boss (we didn’t have routers and only big outfits had a transport manager)treated and trusted us to manage the work ourselves.toe cap boots i always wore them,
hand your keys in, keys what keys we had a on/off switch with a press button to start, half the doors didn’t have locks,
i had a 1970 Foden that didn’t have any door locks. thats how fast things have changed.
John
thats just it...i dont get hassle.
i do my job,phone in when im tipped...then my boss(who is an ex driver) gives me my next one.he knows the score,and so does his number 2. i sit with an old timer on saturday night,in my local...and hes just the same…reckons the jobs ■■■■■■."theyre always doggin at yer" he says…but they`re not…honestly 
3300John:
Hiya BAD TIPS!!! we did the docks. Hull docks only tipped 5 lorries on a shift, it could have been one drum, but that was one of the 5…and there could be 30 or so lorries waiting to unload. i spent 2 days in Liverpool waiting to deliver a 5 gallon drum to replace one a docker had burst 2 days earlier. no one said it was easier years ago, in fact it was hard work,we’re saying although it was hard it was less hassle in the way the boss (we didn’t have routers and only big outfits had a transport manager)treated and trusted us to manage the work ourselves .toe cap boots i always wore them,
hand your keys in, keys what keys we had a on/off switch with a press button to start, half the doors didn’t have locks,
i had a 1970 Foden that didn’t have any door locks. thats how fast things have changed.
John
+1 Another great example of driver independence in those days which is sadly lacking now.
commonrail:
thats just it...i dont get hassle.
i do my job,phone in when im tipped...then my boss(who is an ex driver) gives me my next one.he knows the score,and so does his number 2. i sit with an old timer on saturday night,in my local...and hes just the same…reckons the jobs [zb]."theyre always doggin at yer" he says…but they`re not…honestly
Well you can consider yourself extremely lucky because if today’s statistics are correct, you yourself only make up approximately 0.00025% of today’s total lorry drivers. 
commonrail:
3300John:
Hiya BAD TIPS!!! we did the docks. Hull docks only tipped 5 lorries on a shift, it could have been one drum, but that was one of the 5…and there could be 30 or so lorries waiting to unload. i spent 2 days in Liverpool waiting to deliver a 5 gallon drum to replace one a docker had burst 2 days earlier. no one said it was easier years ago, in fact it was hard work,we’re saying although it was hard it was less hassle in the way the boss (we didn’t have routers and only big outfits had a transport manager)treated and trusted us to manage the work ourselves.toe cap boots i always wore them,
hand your keys in, keys what keys we had a on/off switch with a press button to start, half the doors didn’t have locks,
i had a 1970 Foden that didn’t have any door locks. thats how fast things have changed.
Johnthat
s just it...i dont get hassle.
i do my job,phone in when im tipped...then my boss(who is an ex driver) gives me my next one.he knows the score,and so does his number 2. i sit with an old timer on saturday night,in my local...and hes just the same…reckons the jobs [zb]."theyre always doggin at yer" he says…but they`re not…honestly
Totally agree. They’re only dogging the ones that need dogging.
I hear this alot at the different firms I go to on the agency, but I have never had the problem. I can honestly say I have never had it anywhere I have worked in the last 16yrs.
You get the same ■■■■■■■■ no matter what indutsry you are in. I have it from my workmates on the railway at the minute. 99% of the time its down to the attitude of the person. People say I’m a yes man, maybe I am, but I haven’t been out of work since I left school, and can honestly say I could go back to any of my previous firm and get a job.
Henrys cat:
commonrail:
3300John:
Hiya BAD TIPS!!! we did the docks. Hull docks only tipped 5 lorries on a shift, it could have been one drum, but that was one of the 5…and there could be 30 or so lorries waiting to unload. i spent 2 days in Liverpool waiting to deliver a 5 gallon drum to replace one a docker had burst 2 days earlier. no one said it was easier years ago, in fact it was hard work,we’re saying although it was hard it was less hassle in the way the boss (we didn’t have routers and only big outfits had a transport manager)treated and trusted us to manage the work ourselves.toe cap boots i always wore them,
hand your keys in, keys what keys we had a on/off switch with a press button to start, half the doors didn’t have locks,
i had a 1970 Foden that didn’t have any door locks. thats how fast things have changed.
Johnthat
s just it...i dont get hassle.
i do my job,phone in when im tipped...then my boss(who is an ex driver) gives me my next one.he knows the score,and so does his number 2. i sit with an old timer on saturday night,in my local...and hes just the same…reckons the jobs [zb]."theyre always doggin at yer" he says…but they`re not…honestlyTotally agree. They’re only dogging the ones that need dogging.
I hear this alot at the different firms I go to on the agency, but I have never had the problem. I can honestly say I have never had it anywhere I have worked in the last 16yrs.
You get the same ■■■■■■■■ no matter what indutsry you are in. I have it from my workmates on the railway at the minute. 99% of the time its down to the attitude of the person. People say I’m a yes man, maybe I am, but I haven’t been out of work since I left school, and can honestly say I could go back to any of my previous firm and get a job.
hiya that’s what was said at the start SOME postings are winge winge winge. it happened years ago just one or two didn’t
want to go here or their. i got a job in 1981, i’d just rung up asking for a job. the transport manager asked how long it would take to get to there yard 20min’s. i arrived at the yard with some gear. a lorry got in the yard with all sorts of problems(which was really the driver didn’t like doing scotch) he was told to get out and i got in and off to Scotland.
that was it.it turned out the driver just never wanted to do scotch. he was on a contract it wasn’t the firm sending him it was the contracted company,if you went reasonably early the job wasn’t even a night out as you loaded return packaging
which was to easy to be true and a good paying job.
John
Seeing part of this post was aimed at me, I made the post about the windscreen, sensible question, I thought I would have a say. Why would any one take a lorry out when it’s illegal and wind up having to pay fine, you would have to be pretty thick.
I’m 62 and reading through the posts I had to smile as I found myself on both sides of the posts. I wear rigger boots, don’t wear a uniform, don’t have a route planner, rarely get a phone call from the boss, so I must be doing something right. Oh and I am clean because I care about personal hygene.
I can remember working on building sites in the 60’s and 70’s when H&S didn’t exist and dinner times were spent in the pub, our site office was the public bar across the road at one site I worked on.
But I don’t go on about how it was better in the old days because mostly it wasn’t. I don’t have a problem with life being easier and safer. Life is what you make it and mostly I enjoy it and that includes driving a lorry.
Thanks for making me smile.
3300John:
Hiya…old man here…times have changed … the problem the condition’s haven’t… pay or condition’s(they’re worse).
sometimes when you see someone write>>i had a cracked windscreen should i drive the lorry. some of us older
(I’am only 62)drivers have driven 3or4 days without a screen(they shattered)( there was no windscreen
vans about)we couldn’t go into a agent 300 miles away for a new screen(who was paying for it) no credit cards
we didn’t have £200 cash in out pocket.so we come home to get another screen. the unloading thing. i know its
not correct, but iv’e seen a driver drag a forktruck driver off a lift truck (possibly headbutt him) and unload them
selves because the forktruck driver was usless. time’ll change… its the transition period that some don’t like. …
when some drivers moan about a truck been a little dirty inside the cab. we and you if in our day would get
in the lorry(not truck) on a Sunday afternoon only to find 4or5 5 gallon cans of diesel in the cab to keep you company.
there was no agency cards and you didn’t get trusted with the cash(that was for beer)so times have changed and some
posts on Trucknet seem a little trivel. gosh someone wrote they’d been given a FL6 to drive no power rubbish.
I,am no one special but we used to do Stoke to Allowa and back in the day with a 150bhp Gardner Foden (32 ton)i never
found a heater…the windscreen wiper,s would freeze up(air)overnight, then when you was near Lancaster they’d start
up only a couple of times and scare you to death. it wouldn’t happen today…but it did years ago. and it was fun because
we was young.Lorries are better but the jobs gone to pot. we’re older and don’t like getting old.i’d love to sleep
over the bonnet again and have a spare logbook for the odd emergency but its all gone now. you’ll never have the
fun we had…and its a pity you wasn’t their to have it with us. but a Scania or Volvo would only be a dream.
then again we didn’t have VOSA to trouble us like you lads nowadays. we used to go shopping in our units on Saturday
or go to the pub. a pal of mine used to go to the night club and sleep in his lorry over night pick his trailer up Sunday and off to Dover… please don’t take any of this the wrong way its just what happened years ago we did it our way now you’re doing it today’s method…mobile phones are great but what a nightmare they can be. sat nav are brilliant but you never speak to a stranger in the street and listen to their wrong directions(that was funny) infact you don’t really look where your going anymore with sat nav.we had fun now you lads have fun. someone said they’ll be still driving when we’re dead!!!..yes we was driving before you was born. its evolution…Ps it wasn’t me who hit the forktruck driver.
best wishes John… no hard feelings to anyone I never said …i’d do it all over again. i loved it,
Well said that man!!
Hey Phil.
Don’t know if you’ve seen this before. Came across this long forgotten link in my bookmarks. He’s right up your street. 
liberalconspiracy.org/2011/10/18 … g-on-nypd/
Apologies peeps for dragging up this thread again.