I’m getting a little bit tired of seeing comments from so called lorry drivers that will obey each and every rule that gets thrown at them.
This industry is going down hill because of those that will sit in waiting rooms, hand keys in, pay fines for offences that don’t excist, and basically do what anyone tells them.
So, will you please sod off and play at being someones puppet in another industry instead of haulage?
Thanks ever so much.
sighs I know this is a troll post looking for a kick off, but I’ve only had one coffee so far 
The Age of the Neanderthal Trucker is coming to a close, it’s called evolution, so you can get with the program or go the way of the dinosaurs.
Don’t want to pay non existent fines? Then don’t break the law.
The industry is not going downhill, it is changing, and has been changing since it started. Sadly, the only thing that hasn’t changed is the fixed opinion of a few knuckle draggers who think they are still ‘cowboys of the road’ 
It doesn’t matter that the few refer to the many as ‘steering wheel attendants’, we do the same job, in the same trucks for the same money. We park in the same bays/laybys, and eat in the same troughs. Despite your protestations we also sit in the same waiting rooms and wait for our keys.
Personally I don’t mind sharing my space with the ‘old lags’ with their tales of how they would deck some VOSA guy etc ad nauseum as I know I am just watching the death throws of some archaic life style. You are being replaced, I know that must hurt, but life is not always kind when you fight the inevitable.
So, carry on breaking the law, I don’t mind, as I will be here long after you have gone. Attending to my steering wheel, observing the speed limits, handing my keys in, not paying fines and collecting my wages 
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Excellent post, 100% agree, well said.
TruckingHell:
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Excellent post, 100% agree, well said.
Agree good post, put Phil in his place. 
Harry Kyng:
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Don’t want to pay non existent fines? Then don’t break the law.
So you’re happy to pay fines no matter what?
If they say you’ve broke the law, Then you have? 
This is why we have to put up with over zealous security staff, Rdc staff, and officials.
Thanks lads for standing up for yourselves, you’ve done us all a huge favour.
The daft things is. The others that have posted agree with you. 
limeyphil:
I’m getting a little bit tired of seeing comments from so called lorry drivers that will obey each and every rule that gets thrown at them.
This industry is going down hill because of those that will sit in waiting rooms, hand keys in, pay fines for offences that don’t excist, and basically do what anyone tells them.
So, will you please sod off and play at being someones puppet in another industry instead of haulage?
Thanks ever so much.
Nae bother Phil.
So I take it you want everyone who is not quite like you to ■■■■ off?Is that only till September 2014 ?I mean,you have vociferously stated that you wont be doing the driver CPC-so you will be giving up driving then?I mean,these pesky eurocrats with all their rules-how dare they tell you how to do your job etc.
■■■■■■ wise up-as stated above the neanderthal trucker is dying-It’s all caring sharing and getting on with the job now-not seeing how many rules you can break , just because you don’t like the rules.Why do you even want to drive a truck if you dont actually like the job,which is quite evident from your posts?
Skippy70:
limeyphil:
I’m getting a little bit tired of seeing comments from so called lorry drivers that will obey each and every rule that gets thrown at them.
This industry is going down hill because of those that will sit in waiting rooms, hand keys in, pay fines for offences that don’t excist, and basically do what anyone tells them.
So, will you please sod off and play at being someones puppet in another industry instead of haulage?
Thanks ever so much.Nae bother Phil.
So I take it you want everyone who is not quite like you to [zb] off?Is that only till September 2014 ?I mean,you have vociferously stated that you wont be doing the driver CPC-so you will be giving up driving then?I mean,these pesky eurocrats with all their rules-how dare they tell you how to do your job etc.
[zb] wise up-as stated above the neanderthal trucker is dying-It’s all caring sharing and getting on with the job now-not seeing how many rules you can break , just because you don’t like the rules.Why do you even want to drive a truck if you dont actually like the job,which is quite evident from your posts?
I love the job, it’s the best job in the world.
I don’t like the police, vosa, and anyone telling me what to do.
other than that it’s great.
and as for the dcpc, i’ll go to prison before rolling over to obey that crap.
limeyphil:
I’m getting a little bit tired of seeing comments from so called lorry drivers that will obey each and every rule that gets thrown at them.
This industry is going down hill because of those that will sit in waiting rooms, hand keys in, pay fines for offences that don’t excist, and basically do what anyone tells them.
So, will you please sod off and play at being someones puppet in another industry instead of haulage?
Thanks ever so much.
Some of us learn as we get older,not good to burn your bridges,I’ve lost some bloody good jobs (never get back) through shouting the odds,refusing to do this ,that and everything,now a bit older/wiser I just let noisy ones do all the shouting the odds unless its something I really believe in ,ill then say no,but can you drive to here,there,night out,yea no problem
Hiya…old man here…times have changed … the problem the condition’s haven’t… pay or condition’s(they’re worse).
sometimes when you see someone write>>i had a cracked windscreen should i drive the lorry. some of us older
(I’am only 62)drivers have driven 3or4 days without a screen(they shattered)( there was no windscreen
vans about)we couldn’t go into a agent 300 miles away for a new screen(who was paying for it) no credit cards
we didn’t have £200 cash in out pocket.so we come home to get another screen. the unloading thing. i know its
not correct, but iv’e seen a driver drag a forktruck driver off a lift truck (possibly headbutt him) and unload them
selves because the forktruck driver was usless. time’ll change… its the transition period that some don’t like. …
when some drivers moan about a truck been a little dirty inside the cab. we and you if in our day would get
in the lorry(not truck) on a Sunday afternoon only to find 4or5 5 gallon cans of diesel in the cab to keep you company.
there was no agency cards and you didn’t get trusted with the cash(that was for beer)so times have changed and some
posts on Trucknet seem a little trivel. gosh someone wrote they’d been given a FL6 to drive no power rubbish.
I,am no one special but we used to do Stoke to Allowa and back in the day with a 150bhp Gardner Foden (32 ton)i never
found a heater…the windscreen wiper,s would freeze up(air)overnight, then when you was near Lancaster they’d start
up only a couple of times and scare you to death. it wouldn’t happen today…but it did years ago. and it was fun because
we was young.Lorries are better but the jobs gone to pot. we’re older and don’t like getting old.i’d love to sleep
over the bonnet again and have a spare logbook for the odd emergency but its all gone now. you’ll never have the
fun we had…and its a pity you wasn’t their to have it with us. but a Scania or Volvo would only be a dream.
then again we didn’t have VOSA to trouble us like you lads nowadays. we used to go shopping in our units on Saturday
or go to the pub. a pal of mine used to go to the night club and sleep in his lorry over night pick his trailer up Sunday and off to Dover… please don’t take any of this the wrong way its just what happened years ago we did it our way now you’re doing it today’s method…mobile phones are great but what a nightmare they can be. sat nav are brilliant but you never speak to a stranger in the street and listen to their wrong directions(that was funny) infact you don’t really look where your going anymore with sat nav.we had fun now you lads have fun. someone said they’ll be still driving when we’re dead!!!..yes we was driving before you was born. its evolution…Ps it wasn’t me who hit the forktruck driver.
best wishes John… no hard feelings to anyone I never said …i’d do it all over again. i loved it,
limeyphil:
Skippy70:
limeyphil:
I’m getting a little bit tired of seeing comments from so called lorry drivers that will obey each and every rule that gets thrown at them.
This industry is going down hill because of those that will sit in waiting rooms, hand keys in, pay fines for offences that don’t excist, and basically do what anyone tells them.
So, will you please sod off and play at being someones puppet in another industry instead of haulage?
Thanks ever so much.Nae bother Phil.
So I take it you want everyone who is not quite like you to [zb] off?Is that only till September 2014 ?I mean,you have vociferously stated that you wont be doing the driver CPC-so you will be giving up driving then?I mean,these pesky eurocrats with all their rules-how dare they tell you how to do your job etc.
[zb] wise up-as stated above the neanderthal trucker is dying-It’s all caring sharing and getting on with the job now-not seeing how many rules you can break , just because you don’t like the rules.Why do you even want to drive a truck if you dont actually like the job,which is quite evident from your posts?I love the job, it’s the best job in the world.
I don’t like the police, vosa, and anyone telling me what to do.
other than that it’s great.
and as for the dcpc, i’ll go to prison before rolling over to obey that crap.
I’ll come and visit you in the Scrubs Phil,bring plenty of KY jelly for you.Lube up Phil,lube up !
Excellent read John. Poetry.
I’d best be off then…
…I’ve got 10xtote bags of wheatfeed in a curtainsider and I’ve strapped the last two bags using those jobsworth health and safety inspired straps that new curtainsiders must have. I’ve also driven nice and steady around corners.(I’ll never be a proper driver at this rate.)
100% That @3300John.
@HarryKyng If you ask the old-timers who are still at the game you’ll find that the industry hasn’t “Evolved”. It has regressed mate.
dozy:
limeyphil:
I’m getting a little bit tired of seeing comments from so called lorry drivers that will obey each and every rule that gets thrown at them.
This industry is going down hill because of those that will sit in waiting rooms, hand keys in, pay fines for offences that don’t excist, and basically do what anyone tells them.
So, will you please sod off and play at being someones puppet in another industry instead of haulage?
Thanks ever so much.Some of us learn as we get older,not good to burn your bridges,I’ve lost some bloody good jobs (never get back) through shouting the odds,refusing to do this ,that and everything,now a bit older/wiser I just let noisy ones do all the shouting the odds unless its something I really believe in ,ill then say no,but can you drive to here,there,night out,yea no problem
I totally agree with you.
I just get on with the job, no questions asked.
Muckaway:
I’d best be off then…
…I’ve got 10xtote bags of wheatfeed in a curtainsider and I’ve strapped the last two bags using those jobsworth health and safety inspired straps that new curtainsiders must have. I’ve also driven nice and steady around corners.(I’ll never be a proper driver at this rate.)
You’re doing the job right. Can’t see your point.
3300John:
Hiya…old man here…times have changed … the problem the condition’s haven’t… pay or condition’s(they’re worse).
sometimes when you see someone write>>i had a cracked windscreen should i drive the lorry. some of us older
(I’am only 62)drivers have driven 3or4 days without a screen(they shattered)( there was no windscreen
vans about)we couldn’t go into a agent 300 miles away for a new screen(who was paying for it) no credit cards
we didn’t have £200 cash in out pocket.so we come home to get another screen. the unloading thing. i know its
not correct, but iv’e seen a driver drag a forktruck driver off a lift truck (possibly headbutt him) and unload them
selves because the forktruck driver was usless. time’ll change… its the transition period that some don’t like. …
when some drivers moan about a truck been a little dirty inside the cab. we and you if in our day would get
in the lorry(not truck) on a Sunday afternoon only to find 4or5 5 gallon cans of diesel in the cab to keep you company.
there was no agency cards and you didn’t get trusted with the cash(that was for beer)so times have changed and some
posts on Trucknet seem a little trivel. gosh someone wrote they’d been given a FL6 to drive no power rubbish.
I,am no one special but we used to do Stoke to Allowa and back in the day with a 150bhp Gardner Foden (32 ton)i never
found a heater…the windscreen wiper,s would freeze up(air)overnight, then when you was near Lancaster they’d start
up only a couple of times and scare you to death. it wouldn’t happen today…but it did years ago. and it was fun because
we was young.Lorries are better but the jobs gone to pot. we’re older and don’t like getting old.i’d love to sleep
over the bonnet again and have a spare logbook for the odd emergency but its all gone now. you’ll never have the
fun we had…and its a pity you wasn’t their to have it with us. but a Scania or Volvo would only be a dream.
then again we didn’t have VOSA to trouble us like you lads nowadays. we used to go shopping in our units on Saturday
or go to the pub. a pal of mine used to go to the night club and sleep in his lorry over night pick his trailer up Sunday and off to Dover… please don’t take any of this the wrong way its just what happened years ago we did it our way now you’re doing it today’s method…mobile phones are great but what a nightmare they can be. sat nav are brilliant but you never speak to a stranger in the street and listen to their wrong directions(that was funny) infact you don’t really look where your going anymore with sat nav.we had fun now you lads have fun. someone said they’ll be still driving when we’re dead!!!..yes we was driving before you was born. its evolution…Ps it wasn’t me who hit the forktruck driver.
best wishes John… no hard feelings to anyone I never said …i’d do it all over again. i loved it,
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That’s exactly how it was. Hard but great fun. I done. Well done John.
I agree with John 100% apart from the ‘spare log book’. The penalty for making a false entry (in the good ole days when the man from the ministry would sit in a laybye or on a flyover taking lorry numbers down in his notebook) was a lot more severe than ‘failing to make an entry’ so that’s what I used to do, maximum fine £25, which was still half my weekly wage in them days.
Solly:
^^^^^ 100% This @3300John.@HarryKyng If you ask the old-timers who are still at the game you’ll find that the industry hasn’t “Evolved”. It has regressed mate.
Hiya if i could find the right job i’d be back in the saddle.i have a mate who,s got the job in hand, he loads only a few
miles from his home, he has no booking in times. he picks 2 loaded trailers up each week for his return trip life’s a dream
as i think he’s 67.i had a good number that went to the wall with getting routed and been given the wrong trailers for the job after 19 years. we’ed always had 13’9 trailers but had new 14’6 trailers, I’d asked for lower trailers
but the buyers knew better. one drop we had near Diss it was a 60 mile detour just for 200 yards past a 14ft bridge
but would they listen.no chance…but then Wincanton took over everything so i was better out of it.
John
and that again… great post John.
Muckaway:
I’d best be off then…
…I’ve got 10xtote bags of wheatfeed in a curtainsider and I’ve strapped the last two bags using those jobsworth health and safety inspired straps that new curtainsiders must have. I’ve also driven nice and steady around corners.(I’ll never be a proper driver at this rate.)
Hiya mate don’t be like that…what are these tote bags anyway . you’ve changed jobs i see is it any better■■?
any way what are these straps your on about???do they make your hands sore and dirty■■? I know you like to drive so
you’d have made the grade years ago… now to start a Gardner engine never touch the accelerator till she’s fired up.
Keep on trucking mate
John