Will this be us all soon?

merc0447:
My uncle broke his jaw with a curtain pole in the wind when he worked with malcolms.

And I would break it again if he tries that again! :stuck_out_tongue:

But seriously, how far can we go. I feel sorry for the companies who get the huge fines through a lack of drivers common sense.

Aberdeenshire haulier R&J Milne has been fined Ā£20,000 after a driver was severely injured when he was knocked to the ground and run over by a truck in the firm’s wash bay area.

In a Health and Safety Executive (HSE ) prosecution, Banff Sheriff Court was told how Ian Mackie, 43, was one of five drivers who had cleaned the tractor unit at the firm’s yard in Ardmiddle, Turriff in November 2010. He was talking to a colleague near the front of the vehicle, when the driver of the lorry climbed into his cab, started the vehicle and began to pull out of the wash bay. The vehicle struck Mackie, who fell into his colleague, as it turned left out of the bay.

Both men were knocked to the ground and one of the front wheels of the tractor unit drove over Mackie’s right foot and leg. Another driver raised the alarm and the tractor unit was reversed off Mackie.

He suffered severe injuries, including the removal of the soft tissue of his leg, an open wound and broken bones in his foot, a fractured pelvis and cracked ribs. Mackie was in hospital for 13 weeks and had a metal plate inserted into his pelvis and a skin graft on his leg.

He returned to work in April 2011 but has permanent scars along the length of his leg and hip and still suffers bad circulation, numbness and pain.

The second employee who was knocked over during the incident escaped physical injury.

Banff Sheriff Court heard that an HSE investigation into the incident found there was no organised system to control vehicle movements in the yard around the wash bay area to segregate pedestrians from moving vehicles. There was a health and safety manual, prepared by external consultants, which included various entries that purported to be risk assessments dealing with transport issues.

However, the court was told how these largely took the form of various high-level statements, which did not in any way amount to a suitable and sufficient assessment of the risks involved in manoeuvring vehicles around the site. R&J Milne pleaded guilty to breaching Section 2(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.

HSE inspector Joanne Nicholls said: ā€œThe risks associated with workplace transport are well known, and R&J Milne should have carried out a suitable and sufficient risk assessment to identify appropriate safety measures. A safe system of work would have ensured that if pedestrians were present, vehicles would not be allowed to enter or move in the same area.ā€

Wheel Nut Risk Assesment

  1. If you hear a truck start up, do not stand in front of it chatting.
  2. If someone has just helped you wash your lorry, have a look for him before you move off.

Wheel Nut:

merc0447:
My uncle broke his jaw with a curtain pole in the wind when he worked with malcolms.

And I would break it again if he tries that again! :stuck_out_tongue:

But seriously, how far can we go. I feel sorry for the companies who get the huge fines through a lack of drivers common sense.

Aberdeenshire haulier R&J Milne has been fined Ā£20,000 after a driver was severely injured when he was knocked to the ground and run over by a truck in the firm’s wash bay area.

In a Health and Safety Executive (HSE ) prosecution, Banff Sheriff Court was told how Ian Mackie, 43, was one of five drivers who had cleaned the tractor unit at the firm’s yard in Ardmiddle, Turriff in November 2010. He was talking to a colleague near the front of the vehicle, when the driver of the lorry climbed into his cab, started the vehicle and began to pull out of the wash bay. The vehicle struck Mackie, who fell into his colleague, as it turned left out of the bay.

Both men were knocked to the ground and one of the front wheels of the tractor unit drove over Mackie’s right foot and leg. Another driver raised the alarm and the tractor unit was reversed off Mackie.

He suffered severe injuries, including the removal of the soft tissue of his leg, an open wound and broken bones in his foot, a fractured pelvis and cracked ribs. Mackie was in hospital for 13 weeks and had a metal plate inserted into his pelvis and a skin graft on his leg.

He returned to work in April 2011 but has permanent scars along the length of his leg and hip and still suffers bad circulation, numbness and pain.

The second employee who was knocked over during the incident escaped physical injury.

Banff Sheriff Court heard that an HSE investigation into the incident found there was no organised system to control vehicle movements in the yard around the wash bay area to segregate pedestrians from moving vehicles. There was a health and safety manual, prepared by external consultants, which included various entries that purported to be risk assessments dealing with transport issues.

However, the court was told how these largely took the form of various high-level statements, which did not in any way amount to a suitable and sufficient assessment of the risks involved in manoeuvring vehicles around the site. R&J Milne pleaded guilty to breaching Section 2(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.

HSE inspector Joanne Nicholls said: ā€œThe risks associated with workplace transport are well known, and R&J Milne should have carried out a suitable and sufficient risk assessment to identify appropriate safety measures. A safe system of work would have ensured that if pedestrians were present, vehicles would not be allowed to enter or move in the same area.ā€

Wheel Nut Risk Assesment

  1. If you hear a truck start up, do not stand in front of it chatting.
  2. If someone has just helped you wash your lorry, have a look for him before you move off.

Things like that make me so angry, hows it the govners fault that his ā€œprofessionalā€ lorry drivers cant work in a yard without running people over or being run over.

Bad form quoting oneself I know but can’t stop my self

" The problem now is it does not matter how unlikly it is that something will happen you got to prevent from happening - plus you can’t legislate for d***kheads "

I have always been taught never ever ever assume that the driver has seen you - the minute that engine started I would move - but can imagine the thoughts now ā€œhe can wait until I have finished my chat - oh bugg*r he didn’tā€

thats why we have all the bullshine in one simple example

RULE ONE,
put brain into gear before anything else.
RULE TWO,
same as rule one

MADBAZ:
I have a bump cap that my previous employer ā€˜donated’ it’s been bloody useful when trying to flick straps over pallets, stops the wet stuff, keeps the grime off mi head when under the curtains and it’s even taken the brunt of a couple of knocks from the poles (they bloody hurt when they get you).

Don’t let those poles knock you about. Just because they’ve invaded our country and stolen our jobs, it doesn’t give them the right to physically hurt you. I don’t know what this world is coming to, you’re not even safe at work anymore.

There is no consistency in H&S rules from one place to another. Some places I deliver to you are not allowed to reverse without a banksman, on the other hand, one I went to recently specifically states that their staff must not act as banksmen.

I deliver to various Anglian Water sites and these are the rules

  1. Hard hat, goggles, high viz, to be worn at all times

  2. Am not aloud to get on the back of the lorry without hand rails or air bags

  3. Went to a site last week drove on phoned a guy up when I got there to see where to go. No answer, so I thought I will get out and go find someone. Big mistake I got a right lecture the security guy said you can’t be out here drive you need to wait in your cab. I replied with I have lots to do I can not waste time waiting.

I also have a Crane on my lorry with only a hook so I have to do number 2 sometimes if I have a high load.

Elf and safety has gone just too far

jessicas dad:

Wheel Nut:
A hard hat is good to keep the rain off ,it is the hiviz in the cafe that worries me, if the food is that bad, should they really be selling it?

like this fella on the ferry complete with bluetooth in…

Saw a clip of an ā€œadult movieā€ a while ago and a chap had a bluetooth ear piece in his ear, he must have been a very important fella to take a call ā€œon the jobā€, now thats dedication. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Don’t know if anyone has been on any Crossrail sites. When I’ve be to
The one s in whitechapel doing muck away you can’t sit in the lorry while they load you. You must where hi vis hard hard safety goggles gloves steel toe caps and guess what there’s no drivers waiting area so if its raining you get soaked

We have a site that we load out of, you have to wear seatbelt at all times, hi viz and safety glasses of goggles at all times inside cab including driving or waiting, all along with a speed limit of 10mph which is enforced by a wannabe traffic cop complete with handheld speedgun and binoculars!

marsden:

jessicas dad:

Wheel Nut:
A hard hat is good to keep the rain off ,it is the hiviz in the cafe that worries me, if the food is that bad, should they really be selling it?

like this fella on the ferry complete with bluetooth in…

Saw a clip of an ā€œadult movieā€ a while ago and a chap had a bluetooth ear piece in his ear, he must have been a very important fella to take a call ā€œon the jobā€, now thats dedication. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Nothing of the sort, it had simply been attached to his ear for so long it had become part of it.

In generations to come all babies will be born with one.