So are you gonna bin the paper bit■■? coz I aint
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LIBERTY_GUY:
I sometimes wonder if there are still drivers out there oblivious to the fact they need a dcpc?There is! I turned up at a company for a puddle jumping session. Guy checked all my cards and made me sign a declaration. Usual agency ■■■■■■■■. Another guy came in and the woman who was sitting in there said “He’s got his CPC and all!” the guy replied with “You don’t need that do you!?”
Got out, another guy is loading the truck for me (lucky me). Transpires the pallets were going in a van, but were too heavy. So he asked the guy “Can you drive a 7.5 tonner?” “Yeah I can.” “Have you got your CPC?”.
So I got to drive to Tunbridge Wells and it took for [zb] ever. (From the West Midlands). Wouldn’t have minded in a van with better speed limits. But getting passed in an empty 7.5t (so 5t?) with one occupant by 15-20t coaches with 50 people in at one hell of a clip. If I crash, I die. If the coach driver crashes, 20 people die and 20 more are seriously injured in a hospital. Yet they can go faster than me (thankless [zb] as well)…
Go drive a coach then! you choose to do the job.
oh and it is LICENCE not LicenSe
LIBERTY_GUY:
scanny77:
matamoros:
Kenny1975:
Not looked at the new system yet, but thought you could access, then eventually when its up and running create a guest password for someone to check your entitlements and offences.A password is created on line with driving licence and NI numbers but this password is only valid for 72 hrs which will be a pain in the arse to keep renewing. When I did agency work most firms checked paper counterparts everyday even when in for long periods.
I have my documents copied every shift but I have a link on my phone ready to show people why I wont be producing a counterpart from June 8th. I personally cant wait to get rid of it
Whilst I’ve done other work through agencies, I haven’t done driving work through agencies for quite a while now. Certainly never had to take my license with me before and certainly didn’t have the client copying it on a daily basis.
Times change but from a practical perspective I don’t know how the big operators with a multitude of agency drivers operating around the clock are going to cope with validation if they have to keep logging in to look online? Out of curiosity, do these hauliers also check their own regular drivers licenses on a daily basis, or is that just reserved for agency folks?
This only applies to us but most companies do periodic checks on their own guys.
I only work for 3 clients using a different agency for each. The agencies do 3 or 6 monthly checks.
Client 1: Daily and copied
Client 2: Weekly and copied
Client 3: Never ask to see anything including DCPC card
That is an example of how things vary
Thanks Scanny. In some ways I can see why the paper part will be pointless after June, if it will not get updated for addition or removal of endorsements and other stuff. If a haulier no longer has access to the paper part, that will be their problem and not mine.
Will be keeping mine for a few months after that date though, till everyone out there slowly becomes aware of the changes. 
I’m in Derbyshire looking for an agency .the last four didn’t know a wheel from a pork pie and best connect said drivers are too much trouble.after 23 years a tankster I refuse to break health and safety for blue chips but I’m currently not working agencies say this is blasphemy
The license copying is a chance for the deskjockeys to steal the paper part .always has been .thanks unite
mercury:
I’m in Derbyshire looking for an agency .the last four didn’t know a wheel from a pork pie and best connect said drivers are too much trouble.after 23 years a tankster I refuse to break health and safety for blue chips but I’m currently not working agencies say this is blasphemy
Agencies aren’t really interested in much, other than making a quick buck off someone else’s efforts. Where health and safety becomes a real joke, is where they ring someone at 1am in the morning and expect them to turn out straight away to one of these so called ‘blue chip’ companies. I certainly wouldn’t want to be sharing the roads with a driver that’s perhaps only had a hours sleep.
Exactly the load and company are priority the driver health and safety and other road users don’t equal profit .its a yes sir type of agreement .they have complete trust that trans management hasn’t got a deep seated hatred of agency personnel
You will be able to do a print out from the new DVLA share licence system which will be date and time stamped and basically take the place of your paper counterpart - or at least that’s the idea.
Most employers will accept the print out. Some might want it renewing periodically I suppose.
Some won’t accept it and therefore you may need to mess about with access details for the online system.
There are also licence checking companies with a live system. You sign a mandate and the company can access your details anytime (for a price).
I’ve lost count of the 2am shift accidents…and the icing on the cake is its usually a 15 .just so you know regulations are made to be flouted
LIBERTY_GUY:
Cheers Trubster. Like many government schemes, communication isn’t their strong point, with many people not even aware of the changes coming up in June.Bit like the way DVLA never notified people with vocational licenses about the dcpc roll out. I sometimes wonder if there are still drivers out there oblivious to the fact they need a dcpc?
from what I have seen about 75% of 7.5 drivers 
LIBERTY_GUY:
Cheers Trubster. Like many government schemes, communication isn’t their strong point, with many people not even aware of the changes coming up in June.
I’ve seen posters about it all over the place. Hell at every MSA I’ve been to with TV screens for the traffic info there’s a full screen advert for the change. I can only assume these people who don’t know walk around with their eyes closed.
The problem with so many of these ideas is that they contradict themselves in some way.
I have a photocard licence and a digi card which expire within two weeks of each other. They have different photos because I renewed the digi card before the licence.
My wife still has a paper licence.
If the idea of photos was as a means of preventing fraud by people using each others documents then it has failed big time.
Conor:
LIBERTY_GUY:
Cheers Trubster. Like many government schemes, communication isn’t their strong point, with many people not even aware of the changes coming up in June.I’ve seen posters about it all over the place. Hell at every MSA I’ve been to with TV screens for the traffic info there’s a full screen advert for the change. I can only assume these people who don’t know walk around with their eyes closed.
What you have to remember Conor is that lots of drivers don’t go into service areas or truckstops etc. You have a whole plethora of truckers out there, that work with outfits that may only have one or two trucks. Things like small manufacturing companies, scaffolders, builders merchants etc. that don’t even come into contact with other truckers. I only came across details of these changes myself when browsing through a car magazine at the weekend.