You’ll never progress and develop as a driver if you only keep taking the easy stuff. It’s good to challenge yourself from time to time.
If you think that’s bad you should ask some of those who used to trunk to the United Carriers hub in Birmingham. Often you were having to back into a gap between trailers that wasn’t actually wide enough for a trailer.
this is just another challenge in life, i loved these as the feeling once done is great, slow and steady is the way, it does not matter how many shunts or how long it takes, and get out and look, its far better than hoping it will be ok, if you spend an hour (and i have) as long as its done and dusted with no damage that what was needed, the next time it will be easy.
Looks to be plenty of room from that pic, even for someone like yrself with little experience… how much room is there outside for starters…is there enough to park up before entering to walk in and have a quick look around? If there is, do that but don’t park right on top of the entrance…leave enough room in front of the unit & entrance (if coming from the left) to allow room to swing out and back in…if it was me that had to do it, I’d be aiming for slightly left of centre (if it’s the bay where the artic is) on the way in (this gives you plenty of wriggle room either side)…head towards the top of the yard (back end of trailer won’t need to be no further than midway past the middle of either truck) in a straight line…maybe half a turn on the wheel to the right then when you have a bit of kink in it, pull the wheel back round to the left maybe 3/4 of a turn for a few feet and stop…just by doing that little bit of steering, you’ve already started the angle needed for the start of the reverse and that will take some pressure off you… head out of the window and select R…don’t adjust the angle of the wheel, the kink you put in at the start has removed that already…slowly reverse and the trailer will already be coming in…you’ll want to pick a point to aim for on the bay area…maybe 60-75% away from the bay itself…as you get closer, you’ll need to be slowly increasing the amount of lock needed to bring the back end in, so that will be LEFT HAND DOWN…keep an eye on the middle axle of the trailer, that’s the important one to work on at the moment…if there’s a ‘banana’ on the floor, aim to be about 15 feet away from it with the rear axle…try and picture where the trailer is going in relation to the bay before you actually park it on and make any SLIGHT adjustment as u go…if it’s coming in tight, right turn on the wheel (maybe up to half a turn) and then back on the LEFT HAND DOWN again…hopefully by now, you are almost there and are able to straighten it all up using the mirrors but still be away from the bay, keeping an eye on the rear axle and the spray flaps…u need to remember to start getting it all in line BEFORE the trailer is in line with any lines that are on the floor…leave it till the trailer is in line with a line and you will have to try and chase it round and correct it as the trailer will still be going round at an angle and that’s when it will all go to ■■■■…from here, it should be just a case of minor adjustments but there’s plenty of room in front of you to get it all in shape before docking it, jumping out and fist pumping the air before walking outside for a ■■■… don’t let anybody on-site see you grinning though…let them think you’ve done it before!!! And don’t forget to open the rear doors! Hope this helps a bit and sorry to the others for the drivel, it’s easier to do than to explain ain’t it! Oh…when reversing, do not over complicate things by using both hands…nobody does that, left hand only…hand at the bottom, you want it going left, turn it left and right for right…you’ll soon get the hang of this reversing malarkey, just take all the time you need…hope all of that made sense!
Ignore what the other drivers at your depot are saying, they know you’re a red arse so are trying to worry you. I had the same a while back when I went to cotswold outdoor in Wiltshire. Even the office were smirking saying all the drivers hate it as it’s so tight. When I got there, it was tight but nowhere near as bad as people made out. I stopped short, got out and planned what I was going to do, couple of shunts and all good.
You’ll be fine, just take your time, plan what you’re going to do and make sure you don’t hit anything. If there’s a driver already on the bay get out explain you’re new and any tips, as long as he’s not a prick he will help you out.
Once you’ve done it you will wonder what all the worrying was for, and next time you’re in a tight space you’ll know you’ve done it before so can do it again. All learning experience.
Also if you know you’re not going to make it, take a shunt, don’t want to get yourself in a position where you make it ten times harder for yourself, I’m stubborn so I’ve done that to myself once or twice
Nice and slow with your foot off the loud pedal. ■■■■ might be showing my age as its probably a Auto,
In that case just enough loud pedal to keep it moving slowly,
Don’t worry, you’ve got loads of room. As someone has said stop short, if possible,
go in on foot and have a look and plan what to do, that way you’ll see if any other vehicles are in there.
That’s exactly what I do when delivering to a new customer.
You could be going to one of our customers in Andover:
Hopkinson Way is one way going from bottom to top and we’re in RHD vehicles. So it’s blind side in or blind side out.
With a bit of patience and a lot of too-ing and fro-ing you can actually turn it round in their yard,
bearing in mind the office staff park their cars in the bottom right hand corner.
I just ask the warehouse staff to move some of the vans to make it easier.
Actrosman:
Oh…when reversing, do not over complicate things by using both hands…nobody does that, left hand only…hand at the bottom, you want it going left, turn it left and right for right…you’ll soon get the hang of this reversing malarkey, just take all the time you need…hope all of that made sense!
Not quoting the whole post for space reasons, much appreciated though. That part about starting to straighten before the trailer is actually straight hits right home, it’s the one mistake I’ve been making consistently.
The way I approach more complex reverses is to plan a way out before I plan the way into each move. Make sure theres always room on the opposite side to where you’re reversing, or the mirror is going to bend.
Try your best to stay chilled. As soon as you lose your cool, thats when it gets 10x harder. Take a breath if you’re getting stressed. If you work out how to do this, please tell me.
As mentioned, don’t listen to the “omg, thats horrific” type comments. Had plenty over the years but only listen to those who say “its not the easiest, but this is what to look out for”.
Oh and don’t worry, you get in and out without damage, mark it up as another success. Its never as bad as you think in your head as there might not even be another truck in there.
Chill…its a weekend.
Edit: Now you mention Park Royal, that looks a lot like the Greencore factory. If do, its been a long time sonce I went there, but yeah its tight but doable (did it after 4 weeks).
Actrosman:
Oh…when reversing, do not over complicate things by using both hands…nobody does that, left hand only…hand at the bottom, you want it going left, turn it left and right for right…you’ll soon get the hang of this reversing malarkey, just take all the time you need…hope all of that made sense!
Not quoting the whole post for space reasons, much appreciated though. That part about starting to straighten before the trailer is actually straight hits right home, it’s the one mistake I’ve been making consistently.
carryfast-yeti:
i think you’re over-worrying! if there’s another lorry in there ask him to watch you back…most experienced drivers are happy to help.(our yard is notorious,and we often get in the visiting driver’s cab to reverse it on for them…most recently this week,with a female driver who was struggling)
I reckon the last thing an inexperienced driver needs is for somebody to say ‘get out the cab and I’ll do it for you’, it solves nothing, makes him even more insecure, and he’ll never learn.
Best to stand beside him at door, advise him and guide him in, and encouraging him.
My upper arm tendons are knackered and painful…years of pulling taut liner curtains, tilt covers and manual changes I reckon.
I know steering wheel knobs are looked upon as the spawn of the devil on here , I’ve always had one, and if I didn’t now with my dodgy arms, I’d be also reversing like an amateur.
It’s at the stage I actually NEED it now.
our yard is so tight no other motors,inc the v busy shunter,can get by if someone is struggling to reverse,causing a queue out onto the busy road outside.as far as i’m aware,no driver has been ordered to get out of his cab while we put it on the bay for him/her!..just saying
Am I right in thinking it’s the green core in Park Royal?
If so it’s not that bad, it is a bit tight and can take a few shunts. Just relax and take your time and you’ll be fine.
Edited to add, just seen someone else spotting it was greencore
carryfast-yeti:
i think you’re over-worrying! if there’s another lorry in there ask him to watch you back…most experienced drivers are happy to help.(our yard is notorious,and we often get in the visiting driver’s cab to reverse it on for them…most recently this week,with a female driver who was struggling)
I reckon the last thing an inexperienced driver needs is for somebody to say ‘get out the cab and I’ll do it for you’, it solves nothing, makes him even more insecure, and he’ll never learn.
Best to stand beside him at door, advise him and guide him in, and encouraging him.
My upper arm tendons are knackered and painful…years of pulling taut liner curtains, tilt covers and manual changes I reckon.
I know steering wheel knobs are looked upon as the spawn of the devil on here , I’ve always had one, and if I didn’t now with my dodgy arms, I’d be also reversing like an amateur.
It’s at the stage I actually NEED it now.
our yard is so tight no other motors,inc the v busy shunter,can get by if someone is struggling to reverse,causing a queue out onto the busy road outside.as far as i’m aware,no driver has been ordered to get out of his cab while we put it on the bay for him/her!..just saying
I wasn’t getting at you mate.
I just put myself in the new nervous driver position, and how my confidence would be knocked if I found I could not get it in and somebody had to do it for me …(nooo ooo er Mrs. )
I was the world’s worst reverser after passing my test btw …(despite being a legend today. )
@ETS…it’s easy to overcome but you’ve gotta remember to do it…spend time flailing the unit about and messing things up more will just add to the pressure that you have already put yrself under…little and often is your friend…if it takes 20 shunts, it takes 20 shunts…use all the room in front of you and not just a couple of feet…it’s easier to line up going forwards than backwards! As long as nothing gets damaged, who gives a stuff how long it takes? And as said, plan an escape…if u feel it’s to tight to get off the bay, pull round to the right and reverse in to the gap between the bays but not so close to the right if another motor on it…remember the trailer swing…don’t pull off forward and give it handfuls of left, a full turn on the wheel or a bit more and feed a bit more in will see you heading for the gate with room all round to safely spare
Looks like a good bit of space there, I guarantee if that was one of the places I get sent, the space between the bays would have been filled with equipment or a managers car to save them walking 100yds, as “all that space between the bays is lying empty”
That’ll do, lol (Warning: Image is fairly large, click at your own risk)
Top bay was out of order so I had to use the other one, going out I had to reverse jack-knife a bit (there’s a sliding-rolling thing on the front of the trailer where all the lines are which moves them left-right so that helped)
ETS:
That’ll do, lol (Warning: Image is fairly large, click at your own risk)
Top bay was out of order so I had to use the other one, going out I had to reverse jack-knife a bit (there’s a sliding-rolling thing on the front of the trailer where all the lines are which moves them left-right so that helped)
Congratulations. Nip over to the trucknet staffroom and collect your medal for reversing a wagon and trailer. Its a ■■■■■ pump that helps enlarge said member. Because it was a near on jack knife reverse you will get some lube with it as well. Your welcome.
You did better than me. After a lot of phaffing around between the two skips and van against the fence, a nice driver offered to help so I let him get it on the bay and watched how he did it.
As soon as you’re under pressure its 10x harder. But yeah you beat that site and got out of London alive at night without knocking down the building.